Type rating costs
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Type rating costs
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Just wondering if anyone would be game enough to throw a timeline as to when , if at all, endorsement costs would be borne by the employer in the aussie airline industry (we constantly hear of the shortage of pilots)
Interested in the following airlines: Jetstar, Virgin Blue, QantasLink
would the new VB EBA deal with this issue?
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Just wondering if anyone would be game enough to throw a timeline as to when , if at all, endorsement costs would be borne by the employer in the aussie airline industry (we constantly hear of the shortage of pilots)
Interested in the following airlines: Jetstar, Virgin Blue, QantasLink
would the new VB EBA deal with this issue?
Cheers
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As you can see from the aforementioned posts, an accurate and reliable answer to your question requires a crystal ball or some tarot cards (anyone?)!
However there is talk of Virgin dropping the BYO endorsement and QLink have dramatically lowered the price of theirs, so there IS some obvious pressure on the big players.
If your lucky.... maybe another year or so.
Not so lucky.... maybe another 5 years or more.
However there is talk of Virgin dropping the BYO endorsement and QLink have dramatically lowered the price of theirs, so there IS some obvious pressure on the big players.
If your lucky.... maybe another year or so.
Not so lucky.... maybe another 5 years or more.
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They'll give foreign nationals work permits first, as Pilots are on the skills shortage list. Then they'll pay for the type rating as a last resort... it's just how the mongrel beancounters who run airlines think. However,it can't be too far away.....
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If someone could answer a question. Is it true that even after you pay for your own D8 endorsement it's not even signed off as a command rating. Is this new? or when they did pay for it (the company) was it only a co-pilot rating anyway?
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Back to the question
there are strong rumours that VB/JQ are dropping endorsement costs soon, does anyone have any info on this at all, perhaps someone who just got a start date would care to comment?
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VB's best idea for a while
I can confirm with Aussie, looks like VB have jumped the gun and it's the start of changing attitudes from within management. I've heard of 2 crews paying, 
$16500 for the Dash8 with Qlink and $43200 for the A320 with J* for there total endoresment expenditure. Now that's a lot of BEER in anyones business...
$16500 for the Dash8 with Qlink and $43200 for the A320 with J* for there total endoresment expenditure. Now that's a lot of BEER in anyones business...
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So whats COST price on these ratings? Surely if YOUR paying an employer for time in THIER sim it should atleast be at a discount to the 'rack rate'. I have no doubt this is not the case but anyone care to speculate on what sort of mark up there is on a $30/40000 A320 rating.
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"When?
When pilots start refusing to pay."
they just get piltos from else where then either overseas or lets face it, there are always going to be pilots out there with the endorsements or will to pay for it.
Just a question. Do charter companies charge their employee's for endorsements or is it just the airlines? We dont charge if we get a new plane and if a new pilots comes on board we only employ people with the endorsements. Having said that we are not a big charter group though
When pilots start refusing to pay."
they just get piltos from else where then either overseas or lets face it, there are always going to be pilots out there with the endorsements or will to pay for it.
Just a question. Do charter companies charge their employee's for endorsements or is it just the airlines? We dont charge if we get a new plane and if a new pilots comes on board we only employ people with the endorsements. Having said that we are not a big charter group though
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I can tell you with JQ introducing more fees to join, not less, bonds are a fair way off.
There is murmurings of re-introducing salary sacrafice for the endo however.
I'll go on record and say it won't happen this year ( not paying for endo ) and anyone that waits could miss the seniority boat.
There is murmurings of re-introducing salary sacrafice for the endo however.
I'll go on record and say it won't happen this year ( not paying for endo ) and anyone that waits could miss the seniority boat.
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Hot Tuna, you just got me all excited and jumping onto the DIAC website. Alas it would appear that the SOL only has room for Pilot - Aircraft and not Pilot - Rotary! Unless there is no distinction made between the two in CASA wordspeak?