Type rating costs
 

Gday

Just wondering if anyone would be game enough to throw a timeline as to when , if at all, endorsement costs would be borne by the employer in the aussie airline industry (we constantly hear of the shortage of pilots)

Interested in the following airlines: Jetstar, Virgin Blue, QantasLink

would the new VB EBA deal with this issue?

Cheers

A210

And while your at it could you let me know next weeks Tattslotto numbers as well:ok:

Recommend you go into said interview and let them know that you are prepaired to wait until there is no cost for an endorsement.

When?

When pilots start refusing to pay.


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As you can see from the aforementioned posts, an accurate and reliable answer to your question requires a crystal ball or some tarot cards (anyone?)!

However there is talk of Virgin dropping the BYO endorsement and QLink have dramatically lowered the price of theirs, so there IS some obvious pressure on the big players.

If your lucky.... maybe another year or so.

Not so lucky.... maybe another 5 years or more.

What do Qlink charge now ?

Give it 6 months and it will be 5 year bonds and no rating costs!:ok:

They'll give foreign nationals work permits first, as Pilots are on the skills shortage list. Then they'll pay for the type rating as a last resort... it's just how the mongrel beancounters who run airlines think. However,it can't be too far away.....;)

QantasLink Dash 8 Endo is on special at only 10K!

Aussie

And if they get rid of the year 12 bit they "might" get some more takers.

If someone could answer a question. Is it true that even after you pay for your own D8 endorsement it's not even signed off as a command rating. Is this new? or when they did pay for it (the company) was it only a co-pilot rating anyway?

Back to the question
 

there are strong rumours that VB/JQ are dropping endorsement costs soon, does anyone have any info on this at all, perhaps someone who just got a start date would care to comment?

Word on the street is 1st of July for Virgin...

VB's best idea for a while
 

I can confirm with Aussie, looks like VB have jumped the gun and it's the start of changing attitudes from within management. I've heard of 2 crews paying, :eek: :eek: :eek: $16500 for the Dash8 with Qlink and :eek: :eek: :eek: $43200 for the A320 with J* for there total endoresment expenditure. Now that's a lot of BEER in anyones business...

It now appears Jet* will follow suit very shortly, offered AWA's and bonded:E

So whats COST price on these ratings? Surely if YOUR paying an employer for time in THIER sim it should atleast be at a discount to the 'rack rate'. I have no doubt this is not the case but anyone care to speculate on what sort of mark up there is on a $30/40000 A320 rating.

"When?

When pilots start refusing to pay."

they just get piltos from else where then either overseas or lets face it, there are always going to be pilots out there with the endorsements or will to pay for it.

Just a question. Do charter companies charge their employee's for endorsements or is it just the airlines? We dont charge if we get a new plane and if a new pilots comes on board we only employ people with the endorsements. Having said that we are not a big charter group though

Only if the employee is naive enough to allow it to happen:rolleyes:

I can tell you with JQ introducing more fees to join, not less, bonds are a fair way off.
There is murmurings of re-introducing salary sacrafice for the endo however.
I'll go on record and say it won't happen this year ( not paying for endo ) and anyone that waits could miss the seniority boat.

Hot Tuna, you just got me all excited and jumping onto the DIAC website. Alas it would appear that the SOL only has room for Pilot - Aircraft and not Pilot - Rotary! Unless there is no distinction made between the two in CASA wordspeak?