No AOC for Skyairworld, delay for Solomon Airlines
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solomon airlines cant get a 300, thats the problem. otherwise they would have one.
oz jet is a bandaid solution for the time being. solomons will never tie up with OA, too much a loss of face for the "big" country to accept the assistance from the "small" island. sad but true. its just the way melanesians work.
qantas wont help them, due to problems in the past. air pac due to the qantas tie up wont help them either.
air vanuatu was there in the past, but their machine is already so busy they cant fit them in.
virgin doesnt see the market yet.
jetstar.... is interested. but the 320 is not an ideal machine for the rural environment that is honiara.
its all very interesting.
solomon airlines cant get a 300, thats the problem. otherwise they would have one.
oz jet is a bandaid solution for the time being. solomons will never tie up with OA, too much a loss of face for the "big" country to accept the assistance from the "small" island. sad but true. its just the way melanesians work.
qantas wont help them, due to problems in the past. air pac due to the qantas tie up wont help them either.
air vanuatu was there in the past, but their machine is already so busy they cant fit them in.
virgin doesnt see the market yet.
jetstar.... is interested. but the 320 is not an ideal machine for the rural environment that is honiara.
its all very interesting.
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i would say, in less than two months.
as far as SAW, that's a dead dog and a complete waste of time.
these people actually know what they're doing.
as i said, just wait and see. it will be the best thing that's happenned in a long time. and it will continue for a long time.
as far as SAW, that's a dead dog and a complete waste of time.
these people actually know what they're doing.
as i said, just wait and see. it will be the best thing that's happenned in a long time. and it will continue for a long time.
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fortunately i left the region many years ago, but if they compensated me appropriately i would be happy to return. heaps of money to be made by anyone with enough sense to run it properly. the opportunity has existed there since they lost their 400.
the problem in the area, uneducated people are given positions of responsibility. by this i mean board members and senior management. the problems at solomons started years ago. nothing that has happened in the last few years could have saved the airline from the incompetence that was rife just a few years ago that led to the loss of their australian AOC.
they were doomed from that point.
the problem in the area, uneducated people are given positions of responsibility. by this i mean board members and senior management. the problems at solomons started years ago. nothing that has happened in the last few years could have saved the airline from the incompetence that was rife just a few years ago that led to the loss of their australian AOC.
they were doomed from that point.
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ITS.
Did IE EVER have a -400? News to me if they did.
VH-TJB was a -300, Air Van was a -300, "El Matador" was a -300. When did they (IE) have a -400?
The bloke recently charged with that responsibility certainly didn't run it properly but he nonetheless made/makes lots of money - plus a house in BNE private school fees, car etc etc.
I have to agree with your "doomsaying". To quote Ringbinder:-
Did IE EVER have a -400? News to me if they did.
VH-TJB was a -300, Air Van was a -300, "El Matador" was a -300. When did they (IE) have a -400?
heaps of money to be made by anyone with enough sense to run it properly.
I have to agree with your "doomsaying". To quote Ringbinder:-
Alas, Solomon Airlines seems intent on stumbling from crisis to crisis.
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Yes they had a 400 from 1991-1994 H4-SOL leased from ILFC, qantas took over this lease in 1994 as the lease was killing the country. Thats when they got VH-TJB.
H4-SOL became VH-TJV in the qatas fleet.
Food for thought is it a Tawianese carrier with their 738's they have wanted to get in to honiara for years (only a few brown paper bags and every thing will be sweet with the govt.) UN votes are worth it.
H4-SOL became VH-TJV in the qatas fleet.
Food for thought is it a Tawianese carrier with their 738's they have wanted to get in to honiara for years (only a few brown paper bags and every thing will be sweet with the govt.) UN votes are worth it.
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Unfortunately, in that part of the world, racism is alive and well.
not by the white expats, but with the jealous and unqualified locals.
its the same everywhere. the untrained, unqualified local feeling downtrodden and underpaid. unless they can objectively look at what's involved in the running of these enterprises they will always fail.
for god's sake, look at rhodesia. they couldnt run a farm, then they thought they could rule.
what has been will be, ad infinitum.
not by the white expats, but with the jealous and unqualified locals.
its the same everywhere. the untrained, unqualified local feeling downtrodden and underpaid. unless they can objectively look at what's involved in the running of these enterprises they will always fail.
for god's sake, look at rhodesia. they couldnt run a farm, then they thought they could rule.
what has been will be, ad infinitum.
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Its really not right that you could come up with such comments.....there are many locals who are qulified in many profesions in that part of the world who have left for greener pastures as the pastures that were ment for them are being grazed by others.Fortunately for that part of the world it is neither the fault of the expat nor the local profesionals but rather jealousy amonst local admin staff and therefore for example local Solair pilots with vast experience are currantly being paid 15K AUD and expats 80K AUD.This is why the local pilots and other profesions are leaving and hence the animosity towards expats.Put yourself in their shoes.
Its really not right that you could come up with such comments.....there are many locals who are qulified in many profesions in that part of the world who have left for greener pastures as the pastures that were ment for them are being grazed by others.Fortunately for that part of the world it is neither the fault of the expat nor the local profesionals but rather jealousy amonst local admin staff and therefore for example local Solair pilots with vast experience are currantly being paid 15K AUD and expats 80K AUD.This is why the local pilots and other profesions are leaving and hence the animosity towards expats.Put yourself in their shoes.
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for example local Solair pilots with vast experience are currantly being paid 15K AUD and expats 80K AUD.
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Jmara,
an intersting point of view, but inaccurate. If the local staff in the admin positions were qualified and "skilled", they would be able to demand the salaries that the expats are paid to take their positions. The fact of the matter is they are not appropriately qualified, they are open to influence from political sources within their organisations(countries), so they cant be trusted to run things impartially or fairly. That is the beauty of hired muscle. If the foreigner doesnt perform, he's simply removed, and he's gone. Completely out of the picture. The disgruntled local who is sacked, more often than not lurks in the background waiting for his chance to re enter the frey in order to prove his generally misguided point, always to the detrement of the organisation.
Think about it. How many times have you seen this happen in these sorts of environments.
cheers
an intersting point of view, but inaccurate. If the local staff in the admin positions were qualified and "skilled", they would be able to demand the salaries that the expats are paid to take their positions. The fact of the matter is they are not appropriately qualified, they are open to influence from political sources within their organisations(countries), so they cant be trusted to run things impartially or fairly. That is the beauty of hired muscle. If the foreigner doesnt perform, he's simply removed, and he's gone. Completely out of the picture. The disgruntled local who is sacked, more often than not lurks in the background waiting for his chance to re enter the frey in order to prove his generally misguided point, always to the detrement of the organisation.
Think about it. How many times have you seen this happen in these sorts of environments.
cheers
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SolAir -400
cnic,
Thanks for the correction, I've since even seen a pic of that aircraft. VH-TJW (also a -400) was formerly an Air Nauru aircraft. How many of the QF fleet came back to them in similar circumstances?
Otherwise, just wondering why the former Chief Pilot (more recently elevated to a grander position) was refused entry into Honiara by the Solomons authorities last week? Interesting, too, was the fact he was travelling with the SAW delegation - was that coincidental or is he connected with the new push for the E170? If so it seems some never learn.
Thanks for the correction, I've since even seen a pic of that aircraft. VH-TJW (also a -400) was formerly an Air Nauru aircraft. How many of the QF fleet came back to them in similar circumstances?
Otherwise, just wondering why the former Chief Pilot (more recently elevated to a grander position) was refused entry into Honiara by the Solomons authorities last week? Interesting, too, was the fact he was travelling with the SAW delegation - was that coincidental or is he connected with the new push for the E170? If so it seems some never learn.
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Please note that I was refering to pilots and other profesions in that country as DSD seems to think there are none,not admin as there are only unqualified petrified wood in admin.
however the pilots are more than qualified in their area in that country.
Im afraid this will never happen (get the same as an expat.) due to the fact that the petrified woods in admin will be on less money.
And while on the subject of the petrified woods.........they are the reason Solair is still in the circuit area doing touch and go´s at the expence of the Solomon tax payer .This will never improve as they are too disorganised to get organised......which means never.
Ringbinder
senior local pilots were on 32k AUD untill August 2005 when salaries were cut 50% without notice.Unless this has changed. but I doubt very much due to the currant finacial climate in Solair.Expat F/Os are on 12K AUD and only reason they are there is for the twin turbine time,thats why they are not flying a single in Aus for far more as you say.Wouldnt you??
Please note that I was refering to pilots and other profesions in that country as DSD seems to think there are none,not admin as there are only unqualified petrified wood in admin.
however the pilots are more than qualified in their area in that country.
If the local staff in the admin positions were qualified and "skilled", they would be able to demand the salaries that the expats are paid to take their positions.
And while on the subject of the petrified woods.........they are the reason Solair is still in the circuit area doing touch and go´s at the expence of the Solomon tax payer .This will never improve as they are too disorganised to get organised......which means never.
Ringbinder
senior local pilots were on 32k AUD untill August 2005 when salaries were cut 50% without notice.Unless this has changed. but I doubt very much due to the currant finacial climate in Solair.Expat F/Os are on 12K AUD and only reason they are there is for the twin turbine time,thats why they are not flying a single in Aus for far more as you say.Wouldnt you??
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Hmmm,
Well for us guys that are working here, it's interesting to hear your comments. Some are very valid to say the least and i applaud your information. So what for us now??
Well for us guys that are working here, it's interesting to hear your comments. Some are very valid to say the least and i applaud your information. So what for us now??