Another Indonesian jet down
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Another Indonesian jet down
"Australians on board burning Garuda jet
A Garuda Indonesia passenger jet has burst into flames on landing in Yogyakarta on the Indonesian Island of Java.
The Department of Foreign Affairs has confirmed there were Australians on board, including journalists.
It is not known whether they were among the casualties.
There have also been reports of passengers trapped on board the 737 aircraft."
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Australians may be on crashed jet
Australians are believed to have been among the 102 passengers on a jet that burst into flames while landing in the central Indonesian city of Yogyakarta.
Initial reports suggested a group of journalists were on board the Garuda flight, GA200.
"The plane is burnt. The fire came suddenly from the front wheel," one witness, Hariman, told ElShinta radio.
There was no immediate mention of casualties, and the number of passengers aboard the jet was not immediately known.
The Detikcom news website said the plane was a jet from the country's flag carrier Garuda Indonesia.
Another passenger who escaped the blaze told ElShinta radio there were still passengers aboard as the fire raged.
Indonesia's flight safety record has come under renewed scrutiny since an Adam Air Boeing 737-400 with 102 people on board crashed into the sea off the island of Sulawesi on New Year's Day with no survivors.
Good luck to all those involved, hope all are ok. Condolences to the families of those that didn't make it.
The situation of the aviation industry in Indonesia needs a thorough review so future tragedies can be averted.
A Garuda Indonesia passenger jet has burst into flames on landing in Yogyakarta on the Indonesian Island of Java.
The Department of Foreign Affairs has confirmed there were Australians on board, including journalists.
It is not known whether they were among the casualties.
There have also been reports of passengers trapped on board the 737 aircraft."
and
Australians may be on crashed jet
Australians are believed to have been among the 102 passengers on a jet that burst into flames while landing in the central Indonesian city of Yogyakarta.
Initial reports suggested a group of journalists were on board the Garuda flight, GA200.
"The plane is burnt. The fire came suddenly from the front wheel," one witness, Hariman, told ElShinta radio.
There was no immediate mention of casualties, and the number of passengers aboard the jet was not immediately known.
The Detikcom news website said the plane was a jet from the country's flag carrier Garuda Indonesia.
Another passenger who escaped the blaze told ElShinta radio there were still passengers aboard as the fire raged.
Indonesia's flight safety record has come under renewed scrutiny since an Adam Air Boeing 737-400 with 102 people on board crashed into the sea off the island of Sulawesi on New Year's Day with no survivors.
Good luck to all those involved, hope all are ok. Condolences to the families of those that didn't make it.
The situation of the aviation industry in Indonesia needs a thorough review so future tragedies can be averted.
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Aussies onboard crashed plane
March 07, 2007 12:29pm
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AN Indonesian jet carrying several Australians has crashed and exploded at a central Indonesian airport, trapping passengers inside.
It is believed most Australians on board were diplomatic staff from both Canberra and Jakarta, who were part of a trip following Foreign Minister Alexander Downer on his mission to Indonesia.
The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs has also confirmed Australian journalists were on board. They are seeking more information.
Mr Downer, who was travelling separately, was today expected to visit the central Javanese province for a series of meetings - including one with the Muhammadiyah, the region's largest Muslim organisation, and with the Sultan of Yogjakarta.
Authorities gave no other details but the Antara news service said the fuselage was burning and passengers were trapped inside the plane at the airport in Yogyakarta, located in central Java.
Antara said the flight number was GA-200.
The operations director of Garuda, Captain Ari Sapari, told The Associated Press authorities were trying to rescue passengers onboard the Boeing 737-400.
"It caught alight when it landed," he said giving no more details.
One witness, called Hariman, told local ElShinta radio: "The plane is burnt. The fire came suddenly from the front wheel,"
Indonesia has suffered from a string of transport accidents in recent months, including an Adam Air plane that disappeared in January with 102 passengers and crew on board, and a ferry sinking in late December in which hundreds died.
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AN Indonesian jet carrying several Australians has crashed and exploded at a central Indonesian airport, trapping passengers inside.
It is believed most Australians on board were diplomatic staff from both Canberra and Jakarta, who were part of a trip following Foreign Minister Alexander Downer on his mission to Indonesia.
The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs has also confirmed Australian journalists were on board. They are seeking more information.
Mr Downer, who was travelling separately, was today expected to visit the central Javanese province for a series of meetings - including one with the Muhammadiyah, the region's largest Muslim organisation, and with the Sultan of Yogjakarta.
Authorities gave no other details but the Antara news service said the fuselage was burning and passengers were trapped inside the plane at the airport in Yogyakarta, located in central Java.
Antara said the flight number was GA-200.
The operations director of Garuda, Captain Ari Sapari, told The Associated Press authorities were trying to rescue passengers onboard the Boeing 737-400.
"It caught alight when it landed," he said giving no more details.
One witness, called Hariman, told local ElShinta radio: "The plane is burnt. The fire came suddenly from the front wheel,"
Indonesia has suffered from a string of transport accidents in recent months, including an Adam Air plane that disappeared in January with 102 passengers and crew on board, and a ferry sinking in late December in which hundreds died.
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Garuda Indonesia jetliner burned after landing failure
JAKARTA (JP): A Garuda Indonesia Boeing 737-400 jetliner, which served Jakarta-Yogyakarta route, was burned Wednesday at 7:14 a.m. after making a hard landing in Adi Sucipto Airport, Yogyakarta.
Metro TV station quoted Minister of Transportation that 76 passengers had been evacuated, but it was not clear yet whether there were alive or dead. They were admitted to Harjo Lukito Hospital, Yogyakarta.
The fate of the remaining 57 passengers was unknown, the TV station said.
A survivor Haryana said the airplane looked in normal condition when taking off from Jakarta and landing in Yogyakarta. The weather was also good, he added
The airplane indeed made a landing although it was not a smooth one. Then, the jetliner could not just stop and hit the airport gate before finally burned, the survivor said.
Ari Safari, Garuda Indonesia operational director, said he could not conclude anything yet from the incident as investigation was still underway.
He said the jetliner age was between eight and 10 years old. (***)
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Garuda Indonesia jetliner burned after landing failure
JAKARTA (JP): A Garuda Indonesia Boeing 737-400 jetliner, which served Jakarta-Yogyakarta route, was burned Wednesday at 7:14 a.m. after making a hard landing in Adi Sucipto Airport, Yogyakarta.
Metro TV station quoted Minister of Transportation that 76 passengers had been evacuated, but it was not clear yet whether there were alive or dead. They were admitted to Harjo Lukito Hospital, Yogyakarta.
The fate of the remaining 57 passengers was unknown, the TV station said.
A survivor Haryana said the airplane looked in normal condition when taking off from Jakarta and landing in Yogyakarta. The weather was also good, he added
The airplane indeed made a landing although it was not a smooth one. Then, the jetliner could not just stop and hit the airport gate before finally burned, the survivor said.
Ari Safari, Garuda Indonesia operational director, said he could not conclude anything yet from the incident as investigation was still underway.
He said the jetliner age was between eight and 10 years old. (***)
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Ch 7 in syd just showed incredible footage taken from a journo on board, people still falling out of breaks in the fuse, and exits, plenty of walking wounded staggering around the rice paddy, scary stuff...
interesting to note there is a increasing number of witness reports saying the aircraft was hit by 3 big bangs and shuddered violently just before touchdown, and others saying the aircraft was shot at!!!
just hope the investigation finds the truth...
interesting to note there is a increasing number of witness reports saying the aircraft was hit by 3 big bangs and shuddered violently just before touchdown, and others saying the aircraft was shot at!!!
just hope the investigation finds the truth...
From the Vision so far,
I have not been able to make out the cockpit...the forward fuselage seems to be 'missing' from a few windows in front of the forward door.
Anyone know if the crew made it out of there?
I have not been able to make out the cockpit...the forward fuselage seems to be 'missing' from a few windows in front of the forward door.
Anyone know if the crew made it out of there?
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Rather strange mix of people trying to draw a parallel to the QF sale, asian cleanliness, asian maintainence etc . Rather poor timing one would think
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What bugs me is the footage I saw from the Ch7 cameraman who was "BRAVE" enough to capture the images immediately after the crash... What a crock. He was onboard and managed to evacuate the aircraft safely BUT... what do the Cabin Crew always tell the pax in the event of an emergency?!? Leave ALL baggage behind.
The size of these cameras that the media carry around with them are big to say the least. How many people did this fool get in the way of while rustling around trying to get his camera from the overhead locker... ?
Idiot.
/Rant over.
The size of these cameras that the media carry around with them are big to say the least. How many people did this fool get in the way of while rustling around trying to get his camera from the overhead locker... ?
Idiot./Rant over.
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Five Aussies believed injured and identified.
Four Aussies, possibly five "unaccounted for". Suggestion is no confirmation until deceased are identified.
Downer's Government aircraft may be used for medi-vac to Australia later tonight.
Sad indeed!
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Five Aussies believed injured and identified.
Four Aussies, possibly five "unaccounted for". Suggestion is no confirmation until deceased are identified.
Downer's Government aircraft may be used for medi-vac to Australia later tonight.
Sad indeed!
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What bugs me is the footage I saw from the Ch7 cameraman who was "BRAVE" enough to capture the images immediately after the crash... What a crock. He was onboard and managed to evacuate the aircraft safely BUT....
Well I wasn't there and I don't know what it was like but journos in general never cease to amaze me. Anyone else might have put in an effort, however feeble, to try and help some fellow victims.
Good on him for surviving, where others didn't AND getting his precious footage.
RIP the others.
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I have to agree regards the sentiments about the cameraman being in a position to shoot footage. As a journo who would be a frequent flyer, the safety briefing would be familiar to that person whether it was delivered in English or any other language; specifically that all personal items would have been stowed for landing, either in the overhead locker or under the seat in front, and that if an evacuation was required, all personal items should be left behind be it a pocket sized handycam or a larger item.
Trying to evacuate 130-odd persons out of a burning jet with several exits unavailable and smoke in the cabin would not be made any easier by anyone trying to retrieve personal items. The cameraman concerned may have found themselves in possession of their camera by any number of legitimate circumstances. I just hope that they can reconcile with themselves that they did not, by their actions, cause any delay to the evacuation, or fail to provide assistance to the evacuation, that could have resulted in the loss of life or additional injury.
Personally, I could have lived without seeing the footage.
Trying to evacuate 130-odd persons out of a burning jet with several exits unavailable and smoke in the cabin would not be made any easier by anyone trying to retrieve personal items. The cameraman concerned may have found themselves in possession of their camera by any number of legitimate circumstances. I just hope that they can reconcile with themselves that they did not, by their actions, cause any delay to the evacuation, or fail to provide assistance to the evacuation, that could have resulted in the loss of life or additional injury.
Personally, I could have lived without seeing the footage.
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Barry
he is a journo
enough said
Back to regular programming.
J
he is a journo
enough said
Back to regular programming.
J
And another well respected (female) journo has burns to 60% of her body.
That'll teach her to be a journo eh fellahs?
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Emotional statements regarding the dead, by Bon Journo, but still somewhat ignorant. As they say, 'nobody deserves to die.' Nobody.
But to lever yourself out of the wreck whilst taking the time to grab your camera and then run to safety, possibly abandoning your colleague???
And then stand around filming the carnage instead of lifting a finger to assist someone, anyone, any way you can??? This is just plain wrong and you don't need me to say it.
Not everyone is a hero; there are people who help and people who don't. And then there are journos.
Life is everything. Some footage that will be on the telly for the next 24hrs, then forgotten is NOTHING.
May the dead, all of them, RIP.
But to lever yourself out of the wreck whilst taking the time to grab your camera and then run to safety, possibly abandoning your colleague???
And then stand around filming the carnage instead of lifting a finger to assist someone, anyone, any way you can??? This is just plain wrong and you don't need me to say it.
Not everyone is a hero; there are people who help and people who don't. And then there are journos.
Life is everything. Some footage that will be on the telly for the next 24hrs, then forgotten is NOTHING.
May the dead, all of them, RIP.
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ScottyDoo.........ditto on your comments,and I think you will find most here would agree with your sentiment(s).......and as others have said...you have to wonder the integrity of individuals in these type of situations
.....getting past that,the footage has been taken(regardless of ones view)...so lets hope it is not used as "entertainment"(for lack of a better word)...but can hopefully used to shed some light on this tradgedy.......seasoned accident investigators from Boeing and others may be able to garnish valuable(visual) info....
still,as the Mod says...it certainly is a very sad day...PB
.....getting past that,the footage has been taken(regardless of ones view)...so lets hope it is not used as "entertainment"(for lack of a better word)...but can hopefully used to shed some light on this tradgedy.......seasoned accident investigators from Boeing and others may be able to garnish valuable(visual) info....
still,as the Mod says...it certainly is a very sad day...PB
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ScottyDoo, I would have thought footage like his would be very important in the post-crash investigation.
And unless you have some special first-hand knowledge from having been a passenger on board, you might want to watch yourself with suggestions like:
The cameraman's contribution will be his footage. It could help work out what caused this tragedy. And that's the least we owe those who've perished in this disaster.
Those who survived (including the cameraman) will have to live with the consequences of what they did and didn't do for many days yet.
And unless you have some special first-hand knowledge from having been a passenger on board, you might want to watch yourself with suggestions like:
...to lever yourself out of the wreck whilst taking the time to grab your camera and then run to safety, possibly abandoning your colleague???
Those who survived (including the cameraman) will have to live with the consequences of what they did and didn't do for many days yet.