Emirates Coming to Town
Well divide that by 6.5ish, and its what your provident fund A and B parts might be worth. Or if you banked every pay for those 10years without spending any of it, well maybe.
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The million after 10 years has been achieved by quite a few astute real estate investors. Which actually is not a bad achievment given that for the first 3 years you can save F***all for a deposit, so after 3 years you can start putting a bit away, then if you are lucky to fall into a rampant dubai property market (sorry that's over) or a Rampant WA (****, i think that's finished too). Any way, if you can string a 100k together and are lucky enough to find a decent real estate bubble, a million should be a doddle. Also after 10 years your provident fund should just about buy a reasonable set of wheels to put in the garage.
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I have been with Emirates for about 1 year now and my average pay packet is around $8000 Aussies dollars in the hand/month. This month alone I have 2 Aussie trips and a JFK which is 92 stick hours and I have earnt close to$9000 Aussie dollars with around another $1000 in layover cash. If I wanted to I could pick up another trip from the crew portal and push my pay packet over the $10000 mark. I have no other bills except for mobile/internet/cable tv/car/fuel. I am so far ahead from what i was earning in Australia it isn't funny!!! By the way, the above figures aren't indicative of the 20% payrise and flight pay which doesn't kick in till next month!
with Emirates for about 1 year? Your previous posts show you did your interview around Aug/Sept 06 and joined (possibly) around Oct/Nov. Which I reckon is only 6 months.
I can see with your reasoning how you came up with a figure of 20% for the payrise.......you're right, it isn't funny at all.
Don't get me wrong - it's good to see the bright side of life, but be careful with the figures.
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Bollocks
Bypass Ratio will be one of the first management FOs or trainers as his figures are preposterous; they are all 'about' or 'around' or 'close to'. Knock $1000 off each and you are getting close (on the high side).
Mr Wooby interesting comment; I know a guy here who got an accelerated command with only C130 time and we all know how relevant that is to airline flying.
Mr Wooby interesting comment; I know a guy here who got an accelerated command with only C130 time and we all know how relevant that is to airline flying.
The web site shows a FOs salary at the moment for a new joiner as Aed 19660. With exchange rate at Aed2.92= Aud1 (been around there for months now) that equates to $Aud6732. A wee bit under the $8000 as quoted. After May the pay goes to Aed 20840 which is $Aud 7136, hmmm, thats still below the 8 grand.
At least Bypass didn't have to pay for his type rating this time.
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At least Bypass didn't have to pay for his type rating this time.
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Okay, for those of you who need a recap on Maths 101 then read on:
Monthly pay:19660
Exchange rate protection:1359
Overtime:3920
Telephone allowance:22
Total: $8699 Australian dollars after the conversion
I also received close to $1000 Aussie dollars on layovers!!
BTW Don, I didn't have to pay for my endorsement this time, but I am bonded! Also, if I didn't buy my endorsement all those many years ago, I wouldn't be where I am now!!
Monthly pay:19660
Exchange rate protection:1359
Overtime:3920
Telephone allowance:22
Total: $8699 Australian dollars after the conversion
I also received close to $1000 Aussie dollars on layovers!!
BTW Don, I didn't have to pay for my endorsement this time, but I am bonded! Also, if I didn't buy my endorsement all those many years ago, I wouldn't be where I am now!!
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you can get the overtime for @ 8-9 months after that you hit the max hours and end up in the sim. if you take the new package and use 900hrs times the flt pay and do the math you might get a better idea of what to expect for the year
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Look at it this way most of the Ausie airlines, I think there are 2, will be brought out or bankcrupt in the next few years so we may as well all go and fly in the Middle East. Lets face it unless you are an over paid and underworked Qantas pilot they are paying better than Aus, and reading through the threads about the down side of living there whats so good about living with these beer swilling Ausies, trouble is most have not left the big island but have an opinion on all the places they have not seen.
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the seminar advised of a 6% payrise plus flight pay commencing 1st May. Where does the 20% fit in?
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Grit and Mud, you are true to the rumour nature of this Forum that's for sure. When guys like Don tell you how it is, ie the facts, following it up with a rumour only confuses people, sorry mate. Don might like dressing up in woman's clothing now and then, hey who doesn't, but at least he has given the facts.
Those heels are a Bugg@ when caught under the foot rests...errr, I mean rudder peddles. But a fella has to make a living somehow.
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Arguing over a few bucks here or there is irrelevant to the situation. How much more expensive is it to live there? How many $$$$$$$ do you need to spend to keep the missus and kids happy , so she won't spit the dummy and go home? I see a lot said about the indoor snow / ski centre. How much would it cost to take the family there for a few hours?
Yes the tax is lower etc but you don't get something for nothing.
Yes the tax is lower etc but you don't get something for nothing.
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Here is one for the books. I have it on very good authority that a QF captain has resigned from QF, and will shortly be winging his way to DXB to become a DEC B777. Seems he may not be the only one.
Good luck to him. I hope he has made the right decision.
Good luck to him. I hope he has made the right decision.
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Emirates NZ Roadshow
Just thought I'd bring this thread back up to see what the response was from the NZ leg of the great EK travelling roadshow.
What's the thoughts from the AirNZ guys about the package offered? Had heard some rumours that most people down there weren't too impressed.
I know when I left NZ a few years back, the FO wage looked pretty good (when the NZD was worth 42UScents). Now, I'd be looking at the wage on a NZD basis, and thinking that it's not that good.
Thoughts, comments?
What's the thoughts from the AirNZ guys about the package offered? Had heard some rumours that most people down there weren't too impressed.
I know when I left NZ a few years back, the FO wage looked pretty good (when the NZD was worth 42UScents). Now, I'd be looking at the wage on a NZD basis, and thinking that it's not that good.
Thoughts, comments?
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Hey Kamelchaser (love the name!)
I don't think EK came to NZ (I could be wrong, but didn't hear of anything).
There would be guys keen to work for EK, but you know how hard it is to get 2000 hours jet time in NZ!!
Rumor has it that a few guys from Air NZ will be coming over to EK for a spell, with Air NZ being over staffed in captains and F/Os. From what I understand these guys maybe jumping straight into commands. What do the local kiwis and dingoes think of this??
I don't think EK came to NZ (I could be wrong, but didn't hear of anything).
There would be guys keen to work for EK, but you know how hard it is to get 2000 hours jet time in NZ!!
Rumor has it that a few guys from Air NZ will be coming over to EK for a spell, with Air NZ being over staffed in captains and F/Os. From what I understand these guys maybe jumping straight into commands. What do the local kiwis and dingoes think of this??
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Brief reply as I have to go to work..again!
Seems to be a general concensus that guys coming from AirNZ for a temporary contract won't help us in our efforts to get better terms and conditions, as EK seems to have its head firmly in the sand when it comes to the pilot shortage. Rather than improve the T&Cs to retain their existing workforce, they're out hunting for an ever decreasing (and ever more inexperienced) pilot pool.
When you consider that AirNZ guys coming here will really only be undermining our hopes of improvements here, one would hope that those (AirNZ) guys are not the same ones that complained a years back when new joiners were signing different contracts, thereby undermining their own T&Cs.
On top of that, with enduring links back in NZ (ie..a gauranteed position back with AirNZ), surely coming to the sandpit (especially on an FOs wage) and paying NZ taxes, I can't see it being a particularly inviting proposition.
sorry for any typos..no time to check..off on another long trip..hopefully with a cabin full off happy girls.
Seems to be a general concensus that guys coming from AirNZ for a temporary contract won't help us in our efforts to get better terms and conditions, as EK seems to have its head firmly in the sand when it comes to the pilot shortage. Rather than improve the T&Cs to retain their existing workforce, they're out hunting for an ever decreasing (and ever more inexperienced) pilot pool.
When you consider that AirNZ guys coming here will really only be undermining our hopes of improvements here, one would hope that those (AirNZ) guys are not the same ones that complained a years back when new joiners were signing different contracts, thereby undermining their own T&Cs.
On top of that, with enduring links back in NZ (ie..a gauranteed position back with AirNZ), surely coming to the sandpit (especially on an FOs wage) and paying NZ taxes, I can't see it being a particularly inviting proposition.
sorry for any typos..no time to check..off on another long trip..hopefully with a cabin full off happy girls.
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Seems a real shame that these AirNZ guys will stand on the toes of their fellow kiwis and dingoes, all for a holiday in the sandpit and a bit of extra coin. If the shoe was on the other foot, and EK guys were coming over here to jump straight into a commands ALPA would be screaming!
Why doesn’t ALPA do anything?
All the best to the boys in the sandpit.
Why doesn’t ALPA do anything?
All the best to the boys in the sandpit.
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gents i have personally lived for 6mths in Dubai , and traveled through the UAE and i reckon its a **** hot place to live and comes second on my list of places in the world . Try it before you knock it . You will have no problem with your partners going there regarding religion . i assure you that that Dubai is much much more westernised that most care to imaging .... Each to there own of course gents .