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Old 10th Oct 2006, 05:01
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Before the arrival of allocated seating we did 25 min turns with cans at JQ in the 320
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H1 yep you know all about it if you make the mistake of resting your knee against it during low speed flight when it rotates about twice as fast as at high speeds One day I might learn....

Air NZ and the airports they serve domestically are not set up for high speed turn arounds. There is only one gate at AA and a handful of others around the network where you could board/disembark from both ends, and even then you are risking safety by releasing a bunch of lemmings onto a busy ramp environment never designed with that purpose in mind. Also the 320 crews at the moment are not used to achieving 30 mins on a turnaround but that would quickly change were it all they were doing all day.

So anyway, I would be VERY surprised if Air NZ replaced 73s with anything from the 320 family on the domestic runs for anything other than a very short term stop gap.
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Old 10th Oct 2006, 22:35
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In the days before aerobridges ( 70s and early 80s) NAC/AirNZ did let passengers leave the 737-200 by the front and the rear door at Dunedin. Rear door was then closed and all boarding was through the front.

Ansett/TAA used to board passengers through the ventral stairs of 727s/DC-9s at non-aerobridge airports. Virgin Blue does use the rear door at Australian domestic terminals. Airports in NZ are not more dangerous than Australian airports, are they?
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Old 11th Oct 2006, 03:48
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boeing not going!

Originally Posted by propaganda
With the proposed RWY extensions @ Napier & New Pymouth on the cards..that's 2 more routes .. The A320 family is the most cost effective replacement for the B733...unless Air NZ get Micheal O'leary to negotiate the deal for NG's with Boeing.....
The jet has already operated Napier on sched services years ago however the market could not sustain an aircraft that size. New Plymouth has also had the B737 operate but on charter only.

The A320 series will never replace the B733 on domestic, as the ownership/lease cost is the driver not the operating cost (at least until gas reaches $200 a barrel) and with AKL WLG having a flight time of just on 45 minutes and WLG CHC less than 30 minutes, then the aircraft is going to have to be very cheap to lease/own before it becomes cost efficent to operate.
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Old 11th Oct 2006, 04:29
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C100 driver,

I beg to differ on the Napier route I think a jet...would be sustainable and freight being a major player as well ...lets watch this space
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 04:15
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Since Air NZ are always the last airline in the 1st world to operate any aging type wouldn't it be easiest to see what will be operated in the near future in West Africa or some other 3rd world poverty ridden area of the planet and use that for you replacement guesses?
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 04:31
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Jetstar have 30 min. turnaround times on their containerised A320s. On a full flight there is usually 5 cans of baggage and 2 cans of cargo. Seems to work pretty well.
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 06:23
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Airports in NZ are not more dangerous than Australian airports, are they?
Have you seen the state of the ramp at Auckland recently. You would be asking for trouble letting pax loose. I'm amazed there haven't been any serious incidents on the regional gates.

Had a good example the other day of tranship bag delays caused by A320s operating as replacement on the domestic network. I'm sure if a few things were tweaked in the right direction you could make it work though.
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