Merged: Jetstar International

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correction leanne7

you cannot operate on an ba aircraft without the uk caa's approval, regardless what your contract states

[Howard Hughes]

Originally Posted by Leane7

Anyway my point is, can JQ/QF have QF mainline operate JQ flights if JQ are not ready in time for the Nov 23 launch?

My bet is YES!!

It will be interesting what the QF pilot body will do if this occurs.

[qcc2]

ace 767

leanne7, the 767ace aircraft are under oz registration. it has nothing to do with ownership. in my humble opinion QF mainline can operate J* Int. flights as the planes are australian registered, crew are type rated and experienced, have all the necessary approvals for etops and have all sop in place.

[Z Force]

From what I hear, the initial pilots will be contractors due to loss of interest from job applicants.

[Keg]

Originally Posted by Leane7

Anyway my point is, can JQ/QF have QF mainline operate JQ flights if JQ are not ready in time for the Nov 23 launch?

I'm not sure on the answer because it's not like J* International has the AOC. What I can tell you is that I've flown a QF coloured aircraft on a damp lease on two occasions. Once with Air New Guinea crew (who were fantastic and the best crew meals I've ever had on an aircraft) and once with Air Caledonie. Whether we could do that with J* on international services though without the AOC being approved is a seperate question entirely.

[Taildragger67]

The seven ugly sisters (Leane - they're the RR-powered ones with the 4 doors each side) are most likely under full lease to Qantas; so effectively, they are as much Qantas aircraft as any others which are not owned by Qantas (eg. from ILFC, AWAS, etc. or some Japanese entity - take a look at the ownership plate on the flight deck wall). Naturally the lease may contain specific terms eg. as to maintenance but it's most likely a full operating lease. Final owner is immaterial and indeed may not even be British Airways.

[peuce]

Originally Posted by Eastwest Loco

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Just cannot wait for the 31" seat pitch in economy to Bali. Yay you Jetstar. Really beats congenital defects for prolonged lack of limb mobility that one.

You don't have to wait Loco ... QANTAS 747s already provide 31" seat pitch.

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Qan...ng_747-400.php

[mingalababya]

Originally Posted by Thylacine

Jano Gibson
SMH
July 26, 2006 - 12:10PM
Budget airline Jetstar will charge long-haul passengers extra for blankets and pillows as part of its push into international markets

How much do they charge to use the loo? Or is that still free?

[OK 3 wire]

Toilet free, however toilet paper will cost 5 cents per sheet.

[rammel]

For those QF staff who don't wish to fly J*, there are plenty of airlines who give us ZED fares who fly to the same destinations as QF/J* who don't charge a fuel surcharge on staff tickets and the tickets are fully refundable. Myself and other staff have taken advantage of this as we have decided that QF is not getting our business unless we have not much of a choice. This may not scare GD, but in my area there a quite a few people who would spend at least $1000 on staff travel a year. Remember this is $1000 QF gets for filling up empty seats. You do only get to travel economy, but sometimes you may be upgraded (only happened to me twice).

While management go on about cutting costs, this is one way for me to still travel and cut my costs associated with it.

[Mstr Caution]

Jano Gibson SMH July 26 2006
"From late November Jetstar will fly to six destinations - Bangkok & Phuket in Thailand, Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam, Osaka in Japan, Honolulu in Hawaii & Bali"

For those Jetstar Passengers still looking for Bali on the holiday map, it's in Indonesia.

Saw on the TV tonight, the Jetstar international commercial offering "Choice for the first time at a fraction of the cost"

Stretching the old memory here. But isn't a fraction where the Numerator is above the Denominator & the Numerator may be a number either larger or smaller than the Denominator.

So Jetstar fares at a fraction of the cost may in fact be more (or less) than the competition.

[Buster Hyman]

But isn't a fraction where the Numerator is above the Denominator & the Numerator may be a number either larger or smaller than the Denominator.

GET OUT! None of that clever **** on Dunnunda thank you!

[swh]

Originally Posted by Mstr Caution

For those Jetstar Passengers still looking for Bali on the holiday map, it's in Indonesia.

Saw on the TV tonight, the Jetstar international commercial offering "Choice for the first time at a fraction of the cost"

Stretching the old memory here. But isn't a fraction where the Numerator is above the Denominator & the Numerator may be a number either larger or smaller than the Denominator.

So Jetstar fares at a fraction of the cost may in fact be more (or less) than the competition.

I do not know exact numbers, however for an example QF/SQ etc may lodge with IATA a fare of AUD$3000 for say a Y class SYD-SIN, however you may pick them up discounted on the internet for less than AUD$1000.

I am sure JQ will not make a comparison with the actual internet fare plus tax, rather the IATA fare, which is significantly more.

QF has been playing games for a long time with ticket prices, people think they are on a good deal only to get hit with a hidden “taxes” which on initial research would have directed customers away from other carriers, when it comes to the crunch, the total cost of purchase may well be more expensive.

Customers only need to be stung one or twice, then they will discover why so many people have taken their frequent flyer points to the likes of EK & SQ.

[Mstr Caution]

B.Hyman - Couldn't help it!!

Couldn't agree more when it comes to hype associated with supposedly cheap airfares.

Take for example the frenzy for punters to buy cheap tickets to Bali.

In the rush to buy tickets online I assume they also checked out the updated travel advisory on Bali. Advising the Very High Threat to security in Bali due to recent escalations in violence in Lebanon & Isreal.


www.smarttraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/advice/indonesia