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Well indeed, we all have our expert sources.
I put this to you;
A) Why would Jetstar travel all the way to the beach (mid-summer!!) requiring 100 pilots and leave with just 3 pilots???? Not very plausable.
B) Why would any TRE/ TRI accept anything less than the conditions of a current Qantas 330 TRE/ TRI doing the same job?? Do Jetstar have any alternative? How many current Jetstar management pilots have 330/340 time or any widebody- longhaul command experience?? I can certainly see the CAA saying "Sure, no problem!"
C) Why would they accept and not have it in writing (clause X) that they remain as Captain....forever. "Sure, I'm a 55yr old TRE and I am happy to become a junior 320 F/O again on 5k per month"
D) These guys haven't accepted the positions, they are only saying to EK that the position is on offer, match it and we will gladly stay. For once, a smart move by a pilot!
How would EK feel if 50 pilots left en-masse, during the next 4 weeks?
No wind up, just the facts.
I put this to you;
A) Why would Jetstar travel all the way to the beach (mid-summer!!) requiring 100 pilots and leave with just 3 pilots???? Not very plausable.
B) Why would any TRE/ TRI accept anything less than the conditions of a current Qantas 330 TRE/ TRI doing the same job?? Do Jetstar have any alternative? How many current Jetstar management pilots have 330/340 time or any widebody- longhaul command experience?? I can certainly see the CAA saying "Sure, no problem!"
C) Why would they accept and not have it in writing (clause X) that they remain as Captain....forever. "Sure, I'm a 55yr old TRE and I am happy to become a junior 320 F/O again on 5k per month"
D) These guys haven't accepted the positions, they are only saying to EK that the position is on offer, match it and we will gladly stay. For once, a smart move by a pilot!
How would EK feel if 50 pilots left en-masse, during the next 4 weeks?
No wind up, just the facts.
Last edited by UNOME; 15th Jun 2006 at 08:52.
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Wot? They'd be happy to stay at EK if EK matches the offer from Ansettstar?
I very much doubt they went to the sandpit (mid summer-who cares?) for just 3 pilots but how many passed the QF Psyc BS...I hear a few didn't
Entertaining as **** innit?
I very much doubt they went to the sandpit (mid summer-who cares?) for just 3 pilots but how many passed the QF Psyc BS...I hear a few didn't
Entertaining as **** innit?
QF60
Any truth to the rumour that the QF60 was crewed by the brothers in blue one day late last week?
Bearing in mind that this is a good 2 weeks prior to the AO/QF changeover, surely this is one for the QF mainline boys to watch out for?! AIPA? Surely this is not kosher...
Any more info...?
Bearing in mind that this is a good 2 weeks prior to the AO/QF changeover, surely this is one for the QF mainline boys to watch out for?! AIPA? Surely this is not kosher...
Any more info...?
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50 EK boys trying to do some muscle bargaining mmmmmmmmmmm reminds me of 49 CX boys doing the same once, outcome didnt end up in their favour.
Emirates must be getting further squeezed now especially with the A380 further delay announced yesterday.
Tough times ahead.
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Emirates must be getting further squeezed now especially with the A380 further delay announced yesterday.
Tough times ahead.
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I'm still confused as to how this new wetlease arrangement will work in practice.
Here we have QF pilots on secondment to a QF Group company undercutting QF pilots flying the same route?
Or will the direct entry Captain clause be invoked, or AWA's introduced?
One to watch...
Here we have QF pilots on secondment to a QF Group company undercutting QF pilots flying the same route?
Or will the direct entry Captain clause be invoked, or AWA's introduced?
One to watch...
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Jetstar pax tries to open door
Unconfirmed, but the buzz at the pub tonight..
Apparently a passenger on the BNE-DRW flight last night went "ape" and attempted to open the door in flight. The cabin crew restrained the guy - not sure if cuffs used.
When the dust settled the Cabin Manager informed the Captain who elected to continue to Darwin.
The CC were quite agitated when told by the CM that they were not diverting.
After arrival one of the CC spoke to the Captain who didn't realise the seriousness of the incident, in fact he claimed the CM had not told him the passenger had attempted open the door!!!
If this is true, there would seem to be a lot of questions that need answers.
Apparently a passenger on the BNE-DRW flight last night went "ape" and attempted to open the door in flight. The cabin crew restrained the guy - not sure if cuffs used.
When the dust settled the Cabin Manager informed the Captain who elected to continue to Darwin.
The CC were quite agitated when told by the CM that they were not diverting.
After arrival one of the CC spoke to the Captain who didn't realise the seriousness of the incident, in fact he claimed the CM had not told him the passenger had attempted open the door!!!
If this is true, there would seem to be a lot of questions that need answers.
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Once they had him restrained and assuming he was not causing any more kerfuffle why not continue? He cant open the door anyway! Not unless he can overpower however many square inches of door multiplied by the cabin diff = several tonnes of pressure.....
Last edited by blueloo; 15th Jun 2006 at 11:44.
Nunc est bibendum
Rumours suggest that if we push for the mainline contract for the AO crew that QF will decide that it's all too expensive and close the base and flick the airframes as 'excess'.
Personally, my feeling is that they should be on the LH contract. How hard to push? Always the question where the answer is difficult to judge!
Personally, my feeling is that they should be on the LH contract. How hard to push? Always the question where the answer is difficult to judge!
OneDot - i dont believe that operation was any different to what has been undertaken form time to time in the past. QF crew was not available so an available alternative was put in place that got the job done. what would u have done?
