VB Gripes

[Jet_Black_Monaro]

And a fat lot of good the FAAA did for the Ansett employees.

[theoutback]

Just one comment on VB. As we all should know and appreciate , one thing you dont play games with is the safety and in particular safety demos. I was recently on a VB where the young groovy dude (cabin manager i think)proceeded with voicing the demo wherein he quipped that if things go wrong wait for the panic and sceaming to stop and then place the life raft over your head before heading for the exit. A few years ago a well documented case suggested that a VB flighty during inflight thought it would be a good idea to play...everyone assume the crash position, heads down and hands on the seat in front. They received a substantial fine. I know its all good fun but

[LLL]

VB

Originally Posted by onlyonelife

My biggest GRIPE is when the chief hostie on each flight requests passengers (clients) to re-arrange the contents of the seat back pockets and ensure that the Cabin Safety Card is in front facing outwards.

I have flown on VB heaps of times, not quite the hundred a year you do but still and I have never heard this asked of the passengers. I know they ask you give them all rubbish when they do the rubbish run down the isle but I see no problem with this either. It is after all suppose to be a budget airline and I didn't think that service was how many times you are offered food.

[Mr Seatback 2]

"And a fat lot of good the FAAA did for the Ansett employees."

What...you mean apart from help find the hosties job postings at Qatar Airways, Qantas, Gulf Air, and QFLink?

Mind you - trying to find 2,500 new cabin crew positions in this country in one go is no easy task. Perhaps you could do a better job JBM?

[fruitloop]

"then place the life raft over your head before heading for the exit."
Now that would be interesting to see.!!

[puff]

Originally Posted by LLL

I have flown on VB heaps of times, not quite the hundred a year you do but still and I have never heard this asked of the passengers. I know they ask you give them all rubbish when they do the rubbish run down the isle but I see no problem with this either. It is after all suppose to be a budget airline and I didn't think that service was how many times you are offered food.

On most of might flights with DJ they have made exactly the same PA and I had the same response as the other poster. All I was thinking is what a bunch of lazy buggers trying to get the pax to do their work. Felt like asking if they wanted me to sweep the cabin out on the way out.

[footloose]

I can't believe some people are so sensitive as to be offended by being asked to do such a simple task. Did it delay you? Did it wear you out? As has been said here 100 times already, if it pisses you off so much, don't fly with them.

[wirgin blew]

On most of might flights with DJ they have made exactly the same PA and I had the same response as the other poster. All I was thinking is what a bunch of lazy buggers trying to get the pax to do their work. Felt like asking if they wanted me to sweep the cabin out on the way out.

So puff when you go to you mums house do you leave all your rubbish behind in the seat for your mum to clean next time, do you mush all your chips into the carpet, do you stick your chewy under the couch... Its not about having to clean the mess up its about cleaning up after yourself and respecting the next person who sits in that seat.

Keep Australia beautiful.

[B A Lert]

Originally Posted by wirgin blew

So puff when you go to you mums house do you leave all your rubbish behind in the seat for your mum to clean next time, do you mush all your chips into the carpet, do you stick your chewy under the couch... Its not about having to clean the mess up its about cleaning up after yourself and respecting the next person who sits in that seat.
Keep Australia beautiful.

Most people don't leave a mess of any kind, and nearly all respect those who follow them. That said, the ticket that is purchased is about one's carriage from A to B. There's nothing about having to clean the aeroplane before one disembarks. I, and all of my friends and colleagues, find it offensive to be asked to do the work of scheming flight attendants whose job it is to prepare the aeroplane for the next section. The habit of asking SLF to clean up is something that seems to be the norm on every LCC I've used in Australia, the US and Europe.

[sinala1]

Originally Posted by B A Lert

I, and all of my friends and colleagues, find it offensive to be asked to do the work of scheming flight attendants whose job it is to prepare the aeroplane for the next section. The habit of asking SLF to clean up is something that seems to be the norm on every LCC I've used in Australia, the US and Europe.

Scheming/lazy flight attendants??? Thats utter nonsense - all you are being asked to do is put the safety card at the front of the seat pocket. Even if you are a bit s-l-o-w, it will still take approx 5 seconds. We are not asking you to cross your seatbelt, take the rubbish off the aircraft, vacuum the carpet, clean the toilets etc etc - all we want is your rubbish handed to us, and if you feel like being helpful (which, clearly, you don't) putting the safety card to the front. Do you have any idea the mess the aircraft is sometimes left in after a simple one hour mel-syd sector????

Honestly, grow up - if you don't like it, drive - or, fly with the competition - choice is a marvellous thing

[Keg]

Pay bugger all for the fare, expect to be asked to clean up!

It may not be good 'service' but it is what a LCC is all about I would have thought.

[magoo31]

I'll only say this once

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!


When you pay f*ck-all for an airline ticket, the airline cuts costs. No cleaners to clean your aircraft is the least of your worries. Ask VB how many LAME's they have available to actually inspect, maintain and certify your aircraft. I spent 17 years as a LAME at the big red kangaroo and the standards we saw slipping over the years were mind boggling.

It all started when the tight a*rse VB hit our shores (Thanks to little Johnny).

Let me give you an idea, the first big slip was single LAME domestic ops. That means to the uninformed, 1 engineer to turn your aircraft around during a transit, arrive, inspect, rectify, refuel, certify, depart in about 45 mins. Seeing as though there's not enough time to do that, we'll stop fixing things and defer them all for ONS (over night stop). Over the years, the condition of the domestic aircraft was disgusting. Then we'll get the refuellers to refuel the aircraft. This was all steam rolled in by a corrupt manager, an incompetent QF safety manager, who was later sacked/let go/found out, whatever you want to call it, a union with no idea of the ramifications of its lack of action, and a whole sh*t load of lying by QF to the IR commision.

The next step is single LAME transits on international flts. Yes, dodgy practices on overwater flts.

Then the final nail in the (your) coffin is NO LAME transits. Yes, pilots, who do a great job flying the plane, but generally have little or no mechanical aptitude, will be the sole person carrying out your pre-flight inspection. And it's generally the first officer they'll send down to do it.

This is just the impact from an engineering perspective.

But hey, wait till VB start asking the "guests" to "come and see what you think of this" fluid leak/tyre cut/worn brake/fuselage dent/fan blade damage etc.

At this point, I suggest you bend forward in your seat, grab you ankles firmly, pucker up, and kiss your tight arse goodbye.

[Chicken Beef or Fish]

Great rant.

Grab your ankles and kiss your tight arse goodbye? Are you suggesting that VB carry a plane load full of contortionists?

If you are that worried Magoo, catch the bus.

[oldhasbeen]

..besides which, if you bend over grab your ankles and pucker up around some of the" boys" in this industry, you ain't gonna have a tight arse for too much longer!!

[ennui]

Who has ever had enough seat pitch on a VB flight to reach their ankles?