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onlyonelife 31st May 2006 03:35

VB Gripes
 
Well its my first post and while I hate to be negative I just have to mention a few issues that really get under my nose when traveling with virgin blue. I am a frequent passenger BTW

(1) How can they call us "GUESTS". Arent we a CLIENT. After all we dont dont travel for free do we. A guest is someone who is say for example invited into ones hospitality such as taking someone home for dinner and feeding them for nothing. When an 'End User' pays for something then he/she is a CLIENT. When offered something for free then he /she is a GUEST

(2) VB always sprout on about the "WONDERFUL SERVICE". Well I would have travelled on VB in excess of a 100 flights. All I see is the Cabin Crew do ONE RUN up and back dispensing food / drinks. Please dont see this as a gripe at the cabin crew. No doubt this is the way they are trained and is in all likelyhood the standard operating procedure. But once they have done the run they sit in the galley having a chinwag with each other. People complain about the old AN & QF oldies but at least they did more than the above. in actual fact I never had complaints about the so called Old Boilers (not fair by the way). They alwasy time permiting wandered around occasionally assiting where required

(3) My biggest GRIPE is when the chief hostie on each flight requests passengers (clients) to re-arrange the contents of the seat back pockets and ensure that the Cabin Safety Card is in front facing outwards. A small thing i know but "JFC" VB should get staff to do these things or better still employ cleaners. Clients pay for a service, we shouldnt have to pay to do things so that Godfrey can make more money

Oh well it wont do much good but hopefully management read this. Do others agree with me?

Capn Bloggs 31st May 2006 03:59


the chief hostie on each flight requests passengers (clients) to re-arrange the contents of the seat back pockets and ensure that the Cabin Safety Card is in front facing outwards.
You ARE joking...aren't you?

18-Wheeler 31st May 2006 04:03

I particularly hate 'guest'.
The SLF have always been, and always will be, passengers.

jack red 31st May 2006 04:51

onlyonelife

You stay in a Hotel, you pay for the accomodation and you are a GUEST.

You

have travelled on VB in excess of a 100 flights.
and you still compalin about the service, you are a masochist. :rolleyes:

Warped Wings 31st May 2006 05:02

onlyonelife,
As a pilot with Virgin I can sympathise with you comments because those things annoy me when I pax or am flying staff travel. If you feel strongly enough about these issues, can I suggest you go here
http://www.virginblue.com.au/helpInf...dex.php?for=GR
and record you comments. Pprune is hardly the mechanism to get your message across.
Cheers,
WW

The Bullwinkle 31st May 2006 06:33


My biggest GRIPE is when the chief hostie on each flight requests passengers (clients) to re-arrange the contents of the seat back pockets and ensure that the Cabin Safety Card is in front facing outwards.
If that's your biggest gripe, then you don't have much to complain about!

They only request that you place the safety card to the front of the pocket. I'm sure they don't hold your first-born to ransom unless you do it!

If this is too difficult for you, or just plain beneath you, then for goodness sake, don't do it. It will be done on the turnaround if you don't want to help.

You sound like the type of person who would deliberately place the card to the back, just because you have been asked to help with this tiny request.

If you have flown with Virgin Blue over 100 times, then you would know that this request will be made, and you could probably find some time during your flight to place the card to the front, hopefully without disturbing your hectic schedule.

Honestly, if this is your biggest gripe, then you really have led a charmed life.

BW

Ultralights 31st May 2006 07:50

and how much do you pay for the tickets again???:hmm:

TineeTim 31st May 2006 08:56


You sound like the type of person who would deliberately place the card to the back, just because you have been asked to help with this tiny request.
That's exactly what I'd do. They're your 'guest', remember!!!!!

cunninglinguist 31st May 2006 14:00

good point ultralights, probably within 20 bucks of a QF ticket and then pay for food, drink and if available, entertainment.

VB = AN - the service.

skyshow 1st Jun 2006 03:36

I do not fly for Virgin Blue BTW! But...


How can they call us "GUESTS". Arent we a CLIENT. After all we dont dont travel for free do we. A guest is someone who is say for example invited into ones hospitality such as taking someone home for dinner and feeding them for nothing. When an 'End User' pays for something then he/she is a CLIENT. When offered something for free then he /she is a GUEST
Hotels refer to their 'customers' as guests... and they do not give them free accomodation or food!


My biggest GRIPE is when the chief hostie on each flight requests passengers (clients) to re-arrange the contents of the seat back pockets and ensure that the Cabin Safety Card is in front facing outwards. A small thing i know but "JFC" VB should get staff to do these things or better still employ cleaners. Clients pay for a service, we shouldnt have to pay to do things so that Godfrey can make more money
Is it too much to ask passengers to leave the aircraft in a similar state they found it in! Apart from safety cards, the rubbish they hide etc...
Regarding the safety cards in seat pockets... it is obviously to assist with turn around times. I have never heard Virgin Blue say this PA. So I don't agree you've heard them on every flight! Maybe it was for delayed flights so they could do hot turn arounds??? They are low cost of course. Why do you think Ryannair do not have safety cards in seat pockets? They're STUCK on the seat in front of you to assist them with a 25 min turnaround! After all, it is a reuirement that passengers see in first when searching in a seat pocket etc...

Elroy Jettson 1st Jun 2006 03:53

Gday sky show, if you dont fly VD, that would probably be why you havent heard the PA would it not? :confused:

Probably does help the turn around times, so would making a PA teaching "Guests" how to build a "nest" with the toilet paper, so you dont leave skiddies on the bowl. (Thats assuming they provide wipe paper?)

Any other great "Time saving PAs" out there?

How about handing the dust buster around just prior to TOD?

Or a chux and the spray and wipe? (You could also substitute spray and wipe with any genereric brand to further cut down costs).

"Shake the spew out of the bag, refold it, and place it BEHIND the emergency card which must go in the front! Now, lets see who can sit up the straightest, and they will be the first ones to be let off! Of course this does not apply to wheel chair passengers, you must get your carer to push you off last once our priority able bodied guests have all disembarked first."

Kanga767 1st Jun 2006 06:52

I bet the whiners here are also the type of people who leave their trollies randomly around a shopping centre car park instead of sparing a thought for other people and stowing them in the bays.


K

Pimp Daddy 1st Jun 2006 09:15


Originally Posted by Kanga767
I bet the whiners here are also the type of people who leave their trollies randomly around a shopping centre car park instead of sparing a thought for other people and stowing them in the bays.
K

I spare a thought for the guys who's job it is to run around the car park collecting them up - a leave them everywhere to keep them in a job.

If we collected them up and put them back how would they feed their families?

Dubya 1st Jun 2006 09:53

Geez guys.......

I'm glad I read this thread......

Another 2 minutes of my life I won't get back..

Why don't you all take the bus next time..

assymetric 1st Jun 2006 10:02


Gday sky show, if you dont fly VD, that would probably be why you havent heard the PA would it not?
Elroy you obviously can't read to well. Skyshow said he does not fly for Virgin Blue. Maybe you could also explain who VD is.

As far as the gripes go:

a) Just because you pay for your ticket it does not mean that this automatically gives you the right to board the aircraft. The airline may still refuse you entry for various reasons. This is why you are a guest.

b) As for the "Service". Many flights due to the flight time would not allow for more than one service. You could also try using the bell.

c) And about the Safety card. Yes it would help with a quick turnaround and after all it is only a request. If you don't want to do it or it is beneath you the soloution is simple. Dont do it.


If these are the only problems with VB then they are doing a pretty good job.

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amos2 1st Jun 2006 10:22

Did a flight with Jetstar the other day. First time for me, having flown with Virgin on previous occasions.

What a difference!!...better than Virgin and no innane PAs to put up with!

Virgin wont see me again!...a dead beat airline for dead beats!!!

Mr.Buzzy 1st Jun 2006 10:39

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swm 1st Jun 2006 11:04


Originally Posted by onlyonelife
A small thing i know but "JFC" VB should get staff to do these things or better still employ cleaners. Clients pay for a service, we shouldnt have to pay to do things so that Godfrey can make more money

They're a BUDGET airline ... no dount the reason you've flown them over 100 times. If the employed cleaners, and threw in a snack and a drink then the airfare wouldn't be so budget compared to the legacy airline.

And honestly, if you're flying a one hour SYDMEL / SYDBNE and viceversa which I suspect with 100 flights you are, how many times do you need to be offered food and beverages, ring the bell.

Elroy Jettson 1st Jun 2006 11:22

VD wasnt a typo mate, its what you catch when you screw the aviation domestic scene for everybody!!! :E :E :E

Other error noted. Thanks.

Back to the topic, I dont wish to hijack the thread.

Ultralights 1st Jun 2006 11:37


Originally Posted by Dubya
Why don't you all take the bus next time..

Flying is cheaper these days! im surprised you even get service anymore at all. how much service do you get on a bus???


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