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Old 1st Jun 2006, 09:06
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Nick who???

Can't say much except that at this time he is probably leafing through bid book 245.
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that all I needed to know
Sucked in "visitors"
looks like that wype out that will soon sweep through your area is warranted.
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Angry son of...........THE GOLDEN GREEK !

You're on the money Cartex.

Apparently the Goons had their best $1000/hr "hit squad" at the AIRC and it all was p---ed up against the wall !!!

When are these imbeciles going to learn ????

Its just not worth all the fuss/stress/aggro.

They all bang on about the fuel prices, 1000 people cut due to cost blow outs and thay spend mega bucks in the AIRC trying to slam an employee for -JACK......based on "hear say"!!!!!

How long has Nic been stood down for??????

I can feel a Visitor -tyrade coming on. Quick pass the cough medicine and Ouzo..........I'm off to the Twilight Zone .

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The NAZI's would punish the population for the actions of the partisans.
You watch the "visitors" try and punish the crew now for their failure to sack poor old Nick
I can feel the propaganda war starting, the CCN will publish articles quoting every minuscule detail about all kinds of policies.
The will tirelessly ring us about sick leave!
However they can say what they want! Crew will always have disdain for them and they NOW have no credibility(never had any actually)

He was stood down for 9 months I think, not sure though!
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Old 1st Jun 2006, 11:54
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Danger ......nick of time

............9 months -what a absolute disgrace. ^^%$#@^&&**!!

i've just grabbed my trusty Senior Flight attendant Calculator and rang up the figures.
Total cost =$200K.( give or take a 50)
ie * Loss of wages/time for Nick.=$75K.
* Lost time of Visitors wages working on there feeble , miserable case=$41.55
* Solicitor/legal fees=$125k

......................now thats value for money !!!!!

Whose next on the list?

The vultures are circling?

They're probably plotting their next victim?

These people have to go. ........its time!!!!!!

The Terminator has postioned himself in the new aquarium.

Let the games begin boyz & girls.


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Old 1st Jun 2006, 12:09
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My sources tell me that the terminator does have another one in his sight!
But this one deserves to go!
Very unstable!
Not liked by crew!
If the FAAA steps in to save this one a lot of people will really be p1ssed off.
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 07:15
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Hey
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here is a link to a post that needs your urgent attention.
I would love to see a comment on this page from you

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=228408
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Old 3rd Jun 2006, 04:03
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add more spice

now that jimmy (james strong back in qf as board member) is back in the fold and geoff is on the pbl board (james on the qf board )its a happy family once again. i am sure jimmy can once again contribute to savings by recommending/implementing again to cut pc costs per pax down to A$ 25.-
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Thumbs down anyone for VR ???

Just rang up to speak to my "team leader" re: where are we at with VR???
Message bank....." I'm on Leave".
Tried another one................"Oh they re all at a meeting".
Tried Allocations............."not my job" ( Computer say NO !!! )
What is going on @ the Western Front?? These people are supposed to be giving us SERVICE??????
Hello...........I wanna leave this joint and take my sarcasm and cynicism somewhere else ...........like the Tradies every second Tuesday.
WAKE UP YOU BIMBO'S There are people like me who want -OUT. HELP!!!
I want my money and I want it .............NOW!!!!
On another matter to do with the Visitors.........I hear that some "genius" has thought of another way to reposition out cruets.
HEY, LETS GET RID OF THE BID BOOKS. THAT'LL PISS'EM OFF SO THAT MORE LEAVE.
Game , set, match.............you win. You're too clever for us .mmmmmm
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Old 5th Jun 2006, 23:13
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From todays SMH....

Unions fret about backdoor to Qantas


Scott Rochfort
June 6, 2006

THE drive by Qantas to cut labour costs has sparked fears within unions the airline could seek to operate more "full-service" international flights with crews from its lower-paying Jetstar, Australian Airlines and New Zealand Jetconnect subsidiaries.

Although the Australian Airlines brand is due to disappear next month when the leisure airline's fleet of five 767s are repainted with Qantas livery, the national carrier will retain its labour agreements with Australian Airlines' 370 employees.

Australian Airlines staff are paid around one-third less than their mainline peers.

This "wet leasing" arrangement has raised talk Qantas could look to contract out more of its international operations to lower-cost subsidiaries. There are suspicions Qantas might even look to sidestep its "mainline" enterprise bargaining agreements by crewing its yet-to-be-delivered fleet of Airbus A380s and Boeing 787s with pilots and cabin crew hired through lower-paying entities.

Qantas's head of corporate affairs, Belinda de Rome, said Qantas had "no plans to separate" the operation of its 12 Airbus A380s - due to be delivered from next year - from Qantas's mainline operations. She also said there were no plans to expand the "wet leasing" arrangement with Australian Airlines.

But unions say they are still waiting for a guarantee from Qantas this will not happen.

The Australian and International Pilots Association said Qantas's brand value and goodwill would be diluted if any further moves were made by Qantas to "wet lease" aircraft from its subsidiaries.

"AIPA will be alarmed if that was contemplated," the association's president, Ian Woods, said.

The flight attendants' union also has concerns about Qantas's plans to hire more lower-paid New Zealand cabin crew, despite recently announcing plans to retrench 325 Australian-based long-haul crew.

"We are very disappointed the Australian flag carrier is expanding it crew numbers in overseas bases [while] … it's reducing jobs for permanent Australian cabin crew," the secretary of the Flight Attendants Association's international division, Michael Mijatov, said.

Another concern for the FAA and other unions is the planned launch of Jetstar International. Although this is only five months away, Jetstar has yet to reveal whether it will have union-negotiated labour agreements or individual contracts - Australian Workplace Agreements.

"The FAA international division is very concerned that the job security of its members in Qantas International is being eroded and threatened by the yet-to-be-announced details of Jetstar International," Mr Mijatov said.

Jetstar spokeswoman Simone Pregellio said the airline's labour hiring plans were "still under development".
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It's interesting that according to the SMH article the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration US) is so interested in the plight of the QF cabin crew
Surely the FAAA would have more of an interest
The SMH cant even get the union's name right!
It's interesting to note this bit from the last FAAA newsletter:
The FAAA is not going to try to prevent this redundancy because we naturally understand that some members are keen to avail themselves of the “package”.
Yet if they dont get the numbers, then the most junior will be made compulsory redundant and the numbers of overseas based crew continue to grow with another school going through in LHR in the next couple of weeks.
The FAAA can't manage press coverage of the fact that the number of Australians being made redundant roughly equals the number of Kiwi based jobs?
The Australian public would not be outraged at this?
Where is the FAAA outrage?
Where is the ACTU?
This is the FAAA's perfect argument against the overseas bases ! Take it to the press "Qantas making 325 Australian cabin crew out of work whilst they are hiring overseas based cabin crew for the same job"
Or is it all about the 'seniors' wanting the package? Thats another 325 jobs lost to overseas bases that the FAAA doesnt even want to fight for. I bet some of the officials are planning on taking the package
It's nice the FAAA are still lookin after the 'old boys club', without a condsideration for those on the bottom of the seniority list.
I only hope they get the numbers of senior volunteers
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Old 6th Jun 2006, 08:20
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There is a clause in our EBA that states that no L/H crew member will be made redundant as a result of overseas based crew.

If that is the case and the company did not get the required number of VR packages then they cannot make Australian based crew CR while they have overseas based crew.

In other words if they want to make crew redundant then they have to start with overseas based crew first that is until our current EBA has expired.
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Media Presence

Yesterday's(06.06.2006)Fin Review has some lovely smarmy pieces about Dixon..giving his weight 69KG and blood pressure(who cares).
There is also another piece about Kevin Brown and the anguish that he and his department went through regarding the closure of the heavy maintenance base in Sydney and the establishment of off shore bases for CC
These people sure know how to work the media.
It makes me sick.
Brown is suggesting that concern regarding the maintenance in China is purely xenophobic.
The word safety is never mentioned once in the article.
Do readers actually believe this compliant rubbish?
We need a revolution in this country.
Australians are eventually going to be the handmaidens of the planet.
Everything sold,no manufacturing base and no jobs in the aviation industry.
The "Spirit of Australia "...my fat aunt Fanny's Ars*
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Old 7th Jun 2006, 22:50
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MAJOR problems with geoff and lislies bastard child.....

This from today's SMH

An unhappy lot at other end of the Kangaroo route

Scott Rochfort
June 8, 2006

IT WAS intended to save Qantas $18 million a year. But the costs surrounding the carrier's establishment of a 400-strong flight attendant base in London two years ago are starting to rack up.

Qantas is contending with growing disharmony with its British flight attendants, who are paid more than 20 per cent less than their British Airways counterparts. They are also unhappy Qantas is offering the 200 Australian flight attendants seconded to the London base in early 2005 a $10,000-a-year sweetener to stay on until 2008.

Morale among Australian flight attendants in London, who receive an estimated £24,000 ($60,000)annual package, is said to be rock bottom, largely thanks to London's status as one of the world's most expensive cities.

While the Australian crews are paid slightly more to work in London, they are required to work 30 per cent more hours than Qantas long-haul crews based in Australia.

One source claimed some Australian flight attendants even commuted to work from mainland Europe to cut expenses.

The union that represents Qantas's UK flight attendants, Amicus, declined to comment. But it is understood its members at the Qantas London crew base have already rejected the offer of a 9 per cent pay rise (over three years) from Qantas.

Qantas will send a team of industrial relations negotiators to London to hold further talks with Amicus and attempt to ease growing tensions at what is now its largest overseas crew base.

Qantas's head of customer service, Lesley Grant, described the wage negotiations with Amicus as "a normal process, given the contract expires next year".

"No forced offer has been made to any [Australian] crew to stay beyond their allotted time," Ms Grant said.

The tensions at the London crew base come as Qantas plans to cut 325 of its 4000 long-haul cabin crew jobs in Australia.

There is growing concern within unions over Qantas plans to boost the role of its low-cost subsidiaries while slashing higher-paid "mainline" jobs.

Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon, meanwhile, has lashed out at the pilot union's attempts to have all Jetstar and Qantas pilots on the same labour agreement.

The Australian and International Pilots Association is resisting Qantas plans to establish lower-paying contracts for Jetstar International, which will launch long-haul flights in November.

Mr Dixon wrote to pilots last week claiming AIPA's attempts to thwart the launch of Jetstar International in the Federal Court did not recognise economic reality.

"AIPA's prescription for the Qantas Jetstar relationship looks remarkably like the failed model pursued by a number of US legacy carriers with their discount arms, as they made their way in and out of bankruptcy," he wrote.

Mr Dixon said Jetstar would have a cost base "relevant" to its lower-yielding market. "The fundamentals of our strategy are not up for negotiation with AIPA," he said.
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Old 7th Jun 2006, 23:17
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Dixons Dollars and Failures

Australian airlines was a failure.
Jetstar Asia is bleeding red ink.
The LHR base is in disarray with service way below par and costs rising.
Largely due to lack of experience and training.
The AKL base has a 20% attrition rate.
FAs from another Asian base are using sick leave and smuggling to augment their incomes.
All this is costing dollars...BIG DOLLARS!!!
The Pilots who ultimately control fuel burn are understandably upset.
Watch the fuel costs rise.
Shareholder value being destoyed...$3.18 and heading south.
The only people happy..management who are earning big incentive bonuses.
Rome is burning while Julius Dixon fiddles.
Oh btw, Standard and Poor are suggesting a downgrade in QFs Credit Rating.
Outstanding Dixon old son ...absolutely oustanding
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Old 7th Jun 2006, 23:30
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Idiot Son

Mrs. Dixon‘s idiot son Geoffrey Richard is running an Airline(badly).
How did this happen?
How did someone so arrogant and lacking in managerial acumen get this far?.
Management by
1.incentive bonuses
2.Fear and intimidation
3.Consultantcy.
4.Adversary
5.Spin
No substance whatsoever.
Nobody but the employees seem to give a Rats Bottom
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Old 7th Jun 2006, 23:42
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Angry Dixon Is a Trojan Horse

Dixon really works for another Airline.
His sole purpose is to destroy Qantas and therfore eliminate competition.
Maybe he works for Branson
Anyway.Just a theory
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Old 8th Jun 2006, 02:27
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Arrow add -PER Base to your list....doh!

Argus Moon- a very accurate list indeed of "Managements" miserable attempts of CONTEMPT& FAILURE.
The PER base is another one. Announced with great fanfare-cost saving, customer service, crew engagement rah, rah, blah ,blah then SHAFTED.
How much did this little "Western Bivouwac" cost. I would suggest with start up etc etc them move from PER International Terminal and redundancies-$1.5m ( give or take a fifty ).
*The Financial Institutions are getting very jumpy at the moment.( See share price and Credit ratings)
*The Travelling Public are getting very jumpy at the moment ( from a confidence perspective -it ain't rocket science -you don't mess with your core Branding elements ie SAFETY Engineering & Techies & SERVICE -cabin crew.
*The Govt are getting very jumpy-what with job cuts, redundancies etc-it doesn't look good for their Work non choices policies (sic! )
* Management are getting very jumpy. They have the look of "bunnies in the headlights". They are constantly underfire and are having to constantltly regurgitate bile that they plainly do not believe in ( partcularly those who have been around for a while). In our area alone, its been like a revolving door-......rats deserting a sinking ship AND when they do go they are not being replaced. Don't tell me that would give those remaining a warm , loving feeling inside-yeah right!!!
*The Union ( FAA -sic!!! ) are getting very jumpy at the moment. They are in a no win situation . The CNS base will be used to lever the wages/conditions of all at L/H. I've heard a whisper that the DARTH & CARMEN love child has produced a offspring that would make Chris Corrigans head spin. That is, pax CNS-SYD-min 12 hr slip at IBIS......... Then SYD-LAX. All for 30% less . And you can bet your ball bearings that they will not be staying at the luxury appointed Bone of Contention. Try the.... "Dew drop Inn" on Highway number 19.
In summary ............."getting jumpy" is a common theme in my post.
Its time for a change at the top end of town. Darth needs to move on. If not his loyal footsoldiers and lieutenants will turn and mutiny.
Maybe this is all part of the plan !!!!!!!!-doh.
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Old 8th Jun 2006, 02:36
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And guys, look at the latest SkyTrax survey.

Airline of the Year 2006

1. British Airways
2. Qantas Airways
3. Cathay Pacific
4. Thai Airways
5. Emirates
6. Qatar Airways
7. Singapore Airlines
8. ANA
9. Malaysia Airlines
10. China Airlines

How much did Geoff contribute to that result? SFA. It's basically a result of your efforts guys, but where's the recognition?

Hmm..
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Machinegun Fellatio, if you think back his competition was Gary Two of me and I do apologies for insulting the word "competition"

In this time of gloom, we now have Jimmy Figjam back, why not appoint Gazza 2ofme to the board? And we could get Tiny little Dougie Gstring back for good measure. wouldn't that be something!!

Sad really, QF is dead in the water and so many great people are going to suffer.

May be the media and investment analysts need a wake up call that GD is not the great businessman they portray him as.
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