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Coitus Interuptus you are completly incorrect!
During the 24 hours of the 23/12/05 many Virgin a/c were unserviceable with window defects.
Max u/s at the same time was five,located in BNE MEL SYD HBA.
Suggest you check for facts before firing shots as Soldier of forture is 100 percent correct.
Ps Thanks VB for no Chrissy Jamesion`s this year!Must have spent on BG`s pay instead
During the 24 hours of the 23/12/05 many Virgin a/c were unserviceable with window defects.
Max u/s at the same time was five,located in BNE MEL SYD HBA.
Suggest you check for facts before firing shots as Soldier of forture is 100 percent correct.
Ps Thanks VB for no Chrissy Jamesion`s this year!Must have spent on BG`s pay instead
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Who was that tosser AN had working "for" them for a while? You know, the useless turd that they supposedly head-hunted from the red rat. He was the head of flight ops for a while.
He presided over the Christmas grounding of the 767 fleet and then again at Easter. His other claim to fame was providing scrambled egg for the capts' hats.
Are you sure VB hasn't hired that sleazy, incompetent piece o ****e? Sounds like his style, to "discover" a fault right at Christmas time and ground the thing.
How the fcuk did he get his job back at the rat anyway? Obviously the maggot was a plant hey?
Merry Kiss-me-@rse, Trev.
He presided over the Christmas grounding of the 767 fleet and then again at Easter. His other claim to fame was providing scrambled egg for the capts' hats.
Are you sure VB hasn't hired that sleazy, incompetent piece o ****e? Sounds like his style, to "discover" a fault right at Christmas time and ground the thing.
How the fcuk did he get his job back at the rat anyway? Obviously the maggot was a plant hey?
Merry Kiss-me-@rse, Trev.
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Once again soldier thank you for your highly intelligent and articulate spray. I shudder at the thought of you maintaning an a/c I have to operate. An attitude like yours is deplorable to say the least.
The "frenzy" on the line is completely unwarranted. The windows are the same today as they were this time 4 years ago. Your SENIOR counterparts have advised the same. Your mindless ramblings do nothing but distort the FACTS. Some pilots are a bit too trigger happy with a pen in my opinion.
"No operational spare" You are WRONG!!! There is a operational spare on many days of the week under normal operating conditions. Ring networks ops and find out for your self.
DDG, completely incorrect in what regard? I made no claim other than to state the SOF knows nothing of PR or how to put info into the public arena. Clearly he does not. Max u/s at the same time was 7, not 5 as you state. Again, from the engineering people who actually know what they are talking about.
A little less melodrama and a little more fact would go along way.
SOF, as soon as you start sledging people mate you lose the perogative and your argument is lost.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New year.
The "frenzy" on the line is completely unwarranted. The windows are the same today as they were this time 4 years ago. Your SENIOR counterparts have advised the same. Your mindless ramblings do nothing but distort the FACTS. Some pilots are a bit too trigger happy with a pen in my opinion.
"No operational spare" You are WRONG!!! There is a operational spare on many days of the week under normal operating conditions. Ring networks ops and find out for your self.
DDG, completely incorrect in what regard? I made no claim other than to state the SOF knows nothing of PR or how to put info into the public arena. Clearly he does not. Max u/s at the same time was 7, not 5 as you state. Again, from the engineering people who actually know what they are talking about.
A little less melodrama and a little more fact would go along way.
SOF, as soon as you start sledging people mate you lose the perogative and your argument is lost.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New year.
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I don't know anything about the facts of this so called discussion/debate but when you look at the vile, angry and abusive responses that people write here, you dont have to wonder why PPrune is constantly losing its credibiltity. What was once a great informative resource for Pro - Pilots has been completely Hijacked by the rest. It is so obvious to the industry people out there. I just hope Danny and Co look at this sad state of what this website has become and pull the pin sooner rather than later. It does nothing now except lesson the credibility of the whole industry.......... And we all know it too...... Merry Christmas.!
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losing its credabiltity
not much in it for someone naming himself after a Baywatch ho.
just hope Danny and Co look at this (sic) sad state of what this website has become and pull the pin soon...
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But Virgin said in the paper that they were delayed because of the strong winds in Sydney. I'm a bit confused because Qantas didn't seem to be delayed beacause of the winds.
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I know th QF flight to Per ex Mel at 0815 approx on 23rd was u/s and downgraded from an A330-200 to a B767-300 which left the 767 about 50 seats oversold. Now while it was chaotic it was only Mel- Per/Per-Mel flights affected. This could have been handled a little bit better by local management, but on one of the busiest days of the year I guess they did ok as everyone seemed to get to Per that day.
Back to the original topic.
A source told me that Virgin hastily acquired (last week) a "tool" to enable them to check for windshield defects and thus comply with a B737 AD that had been issued some time ago. The source said that Qantas had purchased the same "tool" approx 12 months ago.
Can anyone in the know advise what the AD states, when it was issued and when all inspections must be completed? Thanks GB
A source told me that Virgin hastily acquired (last week) a "tool" to enable them to check for windshield defects and thus comply with a B737 AD that had been issued some time ago. The source said that Qantas had purchased the same "tool" approx 12 months ago.
Can anyone in the know advise what the AD states, when it was issued and when all inspections must be completed? Thanks GB
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going boeing, check out this CASA list, the relevant AD is bound to be there somewhere.
http://www.casa.gov.au/airworth/airw...=over&toc=B737
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http://www.casa.gov.au/airworth/airw...=over&toc=B737
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Going Boeing,
I think it is fair to say that your "source" is mistaken
If you think about it - a "tool" is not going to prevent delamination/cracking/arcing or whatever ails the windows.
The only "tools" are the people subscribing to conspiracy theories!
I think it is fair to say that your "source" is mistaken
If you think about it - a "tool" is not going to prevent delamination/cracking/arcing or whatever ails the windows.
The only "tools" are the people subscribing to conspiracy theories!
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Dehavillanddriver,
Read the post. There is no suggestion that the 'tool' is going to fix anything. Merely a method of checking if the problem is going to or indeed occuring. Pop the brain into gear before letting the clutch go on your mouth (or fingers in this case).
Read the post. There is no suggestion that the 'tool' is going to fix anything. Merely a method of checking if the problem is going to or indeed occuring. Pop the brain into gear before letting the clutch go on your mouth (or fingers in this case).
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Funny you mention that! The other day I flew back from Perth and whilst waiting to get off the jet was jolted . I remember thinking "Surely they didn't just bash the aerobridge into the aircraft!"
mind you.. this was QANTAS not VB.
mind you.. this was QANTAS not VB.
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Ouch
From what I can remember, there was this arm that used to push the top left cushion onto the fuse and that sometimes was metal to metal on the oder bridges as the materials deteriorated with use. It used to leave a small dent in the skin or damaged the paint work, scratch the eyebrow depending on how far the aircraft was into the bay. You either ripped the seal off the door or hit the eyebrow. The bump is usually the big black jigger on the platform hitting the aircraft but the canopy can bugger a few things too. I recall our guys dispatching always used to check the door area when everything was closed up for despatch. A lot of 737s have dents in this area and not many of them have been formally cleared by engineers because they do not see them.
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Quote - Escape Slide
If the window heat is faulty, the airspeed has to be limited at high altitudes to maintain good impact resistance.
Just wondering what you would hit at high altitudes?
Another Flying Virgin?
What sort of decrease in airspeed is required?
What is good impact resistance?
Does frozen chooks a la Mythbusters constitute good impact resistance?
What feathered creature - other than a featherd prop - would fly this high?
Agree with most that Christmas brings out ALL the woe tales, must be something to do with Scrooge!
If the window heat is faulty, the airspeed has to be limited at high altitudes to maintain good impact resistance.
Just wondering what you would hit at high altitudes?
Another Flying Virgin?
What sort of decrease in airspeed is required?
What is good impact resistance?
Does frozen chooks a la Mythbusters constitute good impact resistance?
What feathered creature - other than a featherd prop - would fly this high?
Agree with most that Christmas brings out ALL the woe tales, must be something to do with Scrooge!
Defenwhatever
I expressed myself badly - I meant...
If you look at the post immediately below Going Boeing's you will see reference to the casa website with details of AD's for 737's.
There is no AD regarding windows - therefore no requirement to purchase (or not purchase) a tool of any kind.
The whole thing is due to the fact that Boeing wrote the maintenance manual badly and left bits out.
With regards the tool not fixing anything you are correct I didn't read the other post correctly, nonetheless the problems predate the supposed purchase of the tool....
I expressed myself badly - I meant...
If you look at the post immediately below Going Boeing's you will see reference to the casa website with details of AD's for 737's.
There is no AD regarding windows - therefore no requirement to purchase (or not purchase) a tool of any kind.
The whole thing is due to the fact that Boeing wrote the maintenance manual badly and left bits out.
With regards the tool not fixing anything you are correct I didn't read the other post correctly, nonetheless the problems predate the supposed purchase of the tool....