OzJet - Business is tough just after 2 days in
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great to see it up and running meaning more jobs created in the industry, but i must say, the ads are kind of cheap and tacky. My dad showed my one day (someone who has no idea as to the industry) and commented that at first he thought it was an ad for a $2 shop kind of thing! hahaha.
Dodgy,
Please explain how the number of seats on an aircraft affects the uplift capability under hot and high conditions eg Alice.
Thanks.
CC,
Garmin 100 supplied by...dodgy brothers! 
so the 717 should, what 115 seats compared to 70 odd?
Thanks.
CC,
INS drift??
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Bloggs,
your FO (bloggs) said the 717 can lift more than a 146-200 out of alice, you would hope so! its got nothin to do with the amount of seats, but if you couldn't carry more, why would you change types? and please no space between the dodgy and brothers, Authur gets offended.
your FO (bloggs) said the 717 can lift more than a 146-200 out of alice, you would hope so! its got nothin to do with the amount of seats, but if you couldn't carry more, why would you change types? and please no space between the dodgy and brothers, Authur gets offended.
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Just heard an Ozjet radio commercial with Paul Stoddart telling us that he has special discounted seats until Jan 06 between SYD and MEL for the wonderful price of $258 each way.
But wait for it.......you can carry on 20 kg of hand luggage!
Give me the QF/VQ discount fare anyday.
But wait for it.......you can carry on 20 kg of hand luggage!
Give me the QF/VQ discount fare anyday.
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More mechanical problems cut OzJet flights
Fri "Sydney Morning Herald"
More mechanical problems cut OzJet flights
By Scott Rochfort
December 9, 2005
AFTER a bumpy first week in the air, Australia's newest domestic airline, OzJet, has encountered more mechanical problems which delayed two flights between Sydney and Melbourne yesterday morning.
The airline blamed the cancellation of a peak hour service out of Melbourne and another out of Sydney on a faulty "hydraulic pipe".
But OzJet founder Paul Stoddart hit out at the media's reportage of his airline's teething problems, saying journalists paid little attention when Qantas and Virgin Blue cancelled flights or had technical problems.
"If out of 100 flights a week you end up with one problem it's quite normal," Mr Stoddart said. He complained how a leaking hydraulic pipe could warrant media coverage while a cracked window on a Virgin Blue flight last week barely made it into the newspapers.
He questioned why the Herald was interested in a cancelled OzJet flight while he could "see cancelled [flights] from the opposition". At the time Mr Stoddart made the comment, around 10.30am, Qantas or Virgin Blue had cancelled no flights between Sydney or Melbourne yesterday.
According to the latest Bureau of Transport Economics figures for September, Virgin Blue cancelled 0.2 per cent of its flights, Jetstar 0.2 per cent and Qantas 1.2 per cent.
Mr Stoddart initially blamed the cancellation of four OzJet flights last Thursday on the lack of demand for midday services. The airline has since rejigged its timetable. However, last Thursday's delays were put down to one of OzJet's 30-year-old 737-200s having mechanical problems on a wing flap.
Mr Stoddart said OzJet knew it would always have a few teething problems and have a tough time attracting business passengers during December and January.
"We've really budgeted for the losses," he said. He declined to say how much the airline was losing.
OzJet's latest statements about its business plan staying intact do not explain why the airline has sharply changed its previously stated policy of not undercutting Qantas and Virgin Blue's fully flexible fares.
Last month OzJet said it was not planning to lower its ticket price below $305 one-way.
It is now selling one-way tickets for $249.
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More mechanical problems cut OzJet flights
By Scott Rochfort
December 9, 2005
AFTER a bumpy first week in the air, Australia's newest domestic airline, OzJet, has encountered more mechanical problems which delayed two flights between Sydney and Melbourne yesterday morning.
The airline blamed the cancellation of a peak hour service out of Melbourne and another out of Sydney on a faulty "hydraulic pipe".
But OzJet founder Paul Stoddart hit out at the media's reportage of his airline's teething problems, saying journalists paid little attention when Qantas and Virgin Blue cancelled flights or had technical problems.
"If out of 100 flights a week you end up with one problem it's quite normal," Mr Stoddart said. He complained how a leaking hydraulic pipe could warrant media coverage while a cracked window on a Virgin Blue flight last week barely made it into the newspapers.
He questioned why the Herald was interested in a cancelled OzJet flight while he could "see cancelled [flights] from the opposition". At the time Mr Stoddart made the comment, around 10.30am, Qantas or Virgin Blue had cancelled no flights between Sydney or Melbourne yesterday.
According to the latest Bureau of Transport Economics figures for September, Virgin Blue cancelled 0.2 per cent of its flights, Jetstar 0.2 per cent and Qantas 1.2 per cent.
Mr Stoddart initially blamed the cancellation of four OzJet flights last Thursday on the lack of demand for midday services. The airline has since rejigged its timetable. However, last Thursday's delays were put down to one of OzJet's 30-year-old 737-200s having mechanical problems on a wing flap.
Mr Stoddart said OzJet knew it would always have a few teething problems and have a tough time attracting business passengers during December and January.
"We've really budgeted for the losses," he said. He declined to say how much the airline was losing.
OzJet's latest statements about its business plan staying intact do not explain why the airline has sharply changed its previously stated policy of not undercutting Qantas and Virgin Blue's fully flexible fares.
Last month OzJet said it was not planning to lower its ticket price below $305 one-way.
It is now selling one-way tickets for $249.
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This guy has been running aircraft in Europe for years. Over there he would have atleast 30 companies to compete with. He has 2 out here, and if this forum is to be believed they are not very good! I think he knows what he is doing.
As for the aircraft, how many passengers would know the difference between a 737-200 and 737-800. Unless they had the wing tips on them(which not all do I believe) they couldn`t. Geeze none of my pax know my Cessna was built in the 70`s!!!
As for the aircraft, how many passengers would know the difference between a 737-200 and 737-800. Unless they had the wing tips on them(which not all do I believe) they couldn`t. Geeze none of my pax know my Cessna was built in the 70`s!!!
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Dear Mr. Stoddart.
Every new venture in this little fishbowl we call Oz is seen & examined critically by the media. Every little slip up that Virgin, Compass & Impulse had was widely reported at the time of their start up phase. Jet* has gained significant air time with their check in policy, as you may well have read.
I suggest that rather than "Doing a Brett", as we say in the industry, you just knuckle down & get your product right, rather than whineing about the attention. Besides, media savvy people crave this sort of attention & the really clever ones turn it in their favour!
Suck it up & get it right! There are too many people counting on you!
Cheers,
Buster.
Every new venture in this little fishbowl we call Oz is seen & examined critically by the media. Every little slip up that Virgin, Compass & Impulse had was widely reported at the time of their start up phase. Jet* has gained significant air time with their check in policy, as you may well have read.
I suggest that rather than "Doing a Brett", as we say in the industry, you just knuckle down & get your product right, rather than whineing about the attention. Besides, media savvy people crave this sort of attention & the really clever ones turn it in their favour!
Suck it up & get it right! There are too many people counting on you!
Cheers,
Buster.
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What a load of carap Buster Hyman.
You work for the paper Wirraway? Looking at all your posts you appear to be a journalist. This is a pilots forum.
The airline is losing $88K per day.
You work for the paper Wirraway? Looking at all your posts you appear to be a journalist. This is a pilots forum.
The airline is losing $88K per day.
Evertonian
Gee, eloquent, succinct & to the point.
I thought it was just crap...carap must be something really special! I'll take it as a compliment!
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Escape Slide - your posting sounds to me like a load a carap (sic). !!
I agree 100% with Buster H that Mr Stoddart should stop his Godfrey-esque whinging and just get on with the job.
Get your own house in order I think is the expression.
I agree 100% with Buster H that Mr Stoddart should stop his Godfrey-esque whinging and just get on with the job.
Get your own house in order I think is the expression.
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Steady on Escape Slide - Wirraway is a long term and much respected member of the Pprune community and is blessed to be one of very few people who legitimately posts (links to) various articles from the print media.
He's NOT a journo, and doesn't really need to be lumped into that category from seemingly a junior poster.
Going to miss him and Mrs W. next saturday night ..
He's NOT a journo, and doesn't really need to be lumped into that category from seemingly a junior poster.
Going to miss him and Mrs W. next saturday night ..
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Seems The Voice got up a little earlier and beat me to it!
Regards to the Wirra's
the term "pull yer head in" comes to mind Escape Slide
Cheers
GG
Regards to the Wirra's
the term "pull yer head in" comes to mind Escape Slide
Cheers
GG
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I did RMV "OZJET $249" he then wrote "BOSE"...I had a BBQ at my place & we joked, when he started BOSE, that he was probably about to drop the price!!