Flying in the face of the law - pilot bikers land fines
Gaunty,
If the plods don't tell us about how badly we are all driving who will? They also do shedloads more driver training than the average motorist. Apples with apples shall we?
Your 180 example is irrelevant to speeding AND as an example of cops persisting in chases. I don't know the story but from what you've written the guy could've been doing anything.
I don't have a position either way on high speed pursuits - its a 'ken hard question but it seems to work in the movies.....
If the plods don't tell us about how badly we are all driving who will? They also do shedloads more driver training than the average motorist. Apples with apples shall we?
Your 180 example is irrelevant to speeding AND as an example of cops persisting in chases. I don't know the story but from what you've written the guy could've been doing anything.
I don't have a position either way on high speed pursuits - its a 'ken hard question but it seems to work in the movies.....
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Two idiots turn a public highway into there own personal piece of bitumen and now some of you insinuate that it is the fault of the Police......!!!!!
Phuck me, get real.
Some mention ability of a bike to stop in a short distance (does this make it OK?), well it didn't help a guy I knew who innocently crossed the road. He got cleaned up by a galah speeding on a bike, ripped his leg off, but what the hell, he didn't care in the end, by the time the ambos and cops got there he was dead anyway.
And Guanty, who said it was a pursuit, it would appear that these two idiots were not quite that stupid, and obviously pulled over once the lights and siren were operated.
I was once told, do the crime, do the time, and if that includes public shaming, well, as the saying goes, do the crime, do the time.
Phuck me, get real.
Some mention ability of a bike to stop in a short distance (does this make it OK?), well it didn't help a guy I knew who innocently crossed the road. He got cleaned up by a galah speeding on a bike, ripped his leg off, but what the hell, he didn't care in the end, by the time the ambos and cops got there he was dead anyway.
And Guanty, who said it was a pursuit, it would appear that these two idiots were not quite that stupid, and obviously pulled over once the lights and siren were operated.
I was once told, do the crime, do the time, and if that includes public shaming, well, as the saying goes, do the crime, do the time.
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Okay so some tw@ts around here think that deliberate public humiliation should be part of an assigned punishment, despite what the courts have said. Interesting concept.
I never realised we had such learned members in pprune, who list better a knowledge than the courts of the suitability of civil punishments among their qualifications.
Let's have Junket Pump step up the crease and be the first to name himself (and his employer) and then describe his own crimes be they speeding, driving after a beer or three, jay-walking, tax-cheating or log-flogging in the boys' showers during summer camp as a lad.
Then we'll all take turns attempting to describe how much of a maggot you are. You can whip yourself too while we're at it.
Get a grip on reality, JunketPump. Jeesuzz.
edited for phuckwit clarification:
No one ever said it was the fault of the police. Deeper thought appears lost on you.
I never realised we had such learned members in pprune, who list better a knowledge than the courts of the suitability of civil punishments among their qualifications.
Let's have Junket Pump step up the crease and be the first to name himself (and his employer) and then describe his own crimes be they speeding, driving after a beer or three, jay-walking, tax-cheating or log-flogging in the boys' showers during summer camp as a lad.
Then we'll all take turns attempting to describe how much of a maggot you are. You can whip yourself too while we're at it.
Get a grip on reality, JunketPump. Jeesuzz.
edited for phuckwit clarification:
No one ever said it was the fault of the police. Deeper thought appears lost on you.
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Well what a lot of frog sh*t, I have ridden and raced (and still do) but you don't do it in built up areas and say I am in control all it takes is a furry little beast and it don't need to be big to send you "Flying minus A/C" and if you think the poor animal or person does not panic and make a bad decision trying to get out of your way then you are a di*k he*d
Ask any rider and if he tells you that because you can accelerate and stop quickly you are safe Bullsh*t try that in a low gear where you cannot change down for max. braking.(unless slipper clutches will help you.)
I am no angel but give mine stick out on the roads where most do not see or catch me, if you ride and don't push it bull*hit again, the wankers who are trying to give this justice to say it is OK to act like this in dense public places are sure not gonna get my pity when the law makes you walk for a couple of years.
I know what it is like to turn the wick up on 170hp. but hey keep it for less populated areas stop suggesting that the two (rich) loony pilots are justified in the actions taken. I do not care that the idiots were only a couple over as they were nabbed so speeding was perfomed, also hate the wankers who have not been licenced or lost it and keep riding causing much grief when they prang into some unfortunate without 3rd party or insurance.
Ask any rider and if he tells you that because you can accelerate and stop quickly you are safe Bullsh*t try that in a low gear where you cannot change down for max. braking.(unless slipper clutches will help you.)
I am no angel but give mine stick out on the roads where most do not see or catch me, if you ride and don't push it bull*hit again, the wankers who are trying to give this justice to say it is OK to act like this in dense public places are sure not gonna get my pity when the law makes you walk for a couple of years.
I know what it is like to turn the wick up on 170hp. but hey keep it for less populated areas stop suggesting that the two (rich) loony pilots are justified in the actions taken. I do not care that the idiots were only a couple over as they were nabbed so speeding was perfomed, also hate the wankers who have not been licenced or lost it and keep riding causing much grief when they prang into some unfortunate without 3rd party or insurance.
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I'm sorry folks to waste the bandwidth,but it has gotten to the stage now where someone must say,
WHO GIVES A CRAP!!!!
Ride as you personally see fit,accept the consequences if it all goes bad, and if you also happen to be employed as a pilot, operate within the prescribed regs, SOP's and last but not least common sense!
I'm out on this subject.
Cheers,
Con
WHO GIVES A CRAP!!!!
Ride as you personally see fit,accept the consequences if it all goes bad, and if you also happen to be employed as a pilot, operate within the prescribed regs, SOP's and last but not least common sense!
I'm out on this subject.
Cheers,
Con
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DeBurcs,
If they are named in Australia's biggest selling broadsheet newspaper and in other parts of the media, then what the hell is the problem with posting the article on pprune?
Indeed I've been done for speeding and I agree most of us would have been at some point. The point I was trying to make in my post is that with two bikers together, it's hard not to think it wasn't intentional and pre-meditated.
Why not post it? It's aviation related, and sparks a discussion like this. If I didn't post it, someone else would have. I don't have anything against VB or VB pilots if that's what you are implying.
I wasn't trying to defend the media's actions in my last post, I was simply trying to help some of you see the reason why their profession was mentioned in the media. Re-read my last post if it didn't sink in.
Initially I just posted the article to generate a bit of discussion, but then I couldn't sit back and listen to the dribble much more, which is why I didn't post anything again until the 4th page.
Cheers,
TL
...helping name two guys...
I'd wager everyone of us has also done at some time, TL included
I don't know what exactly TL's purpose was in posting this other than perhaps logging a "pprune scoop".
I wasn't trying to defend the media's actions in my last post, I was simply trying to help some of you see the reason why their profession was mentioned in the media. Re-read my last post if it didn't sink in.
Initially I just posted the article to generate a bit of discussion, but then I couldn't sit back and listen to the dribble much more, which is why I didn't post anything again until the 4th page.
Cheers,
TL
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Gaunty, don't want to get in to the right and wrongs of the speeding thing, the guy was a knob for doing what he did, where he did and has caused immeasurable harm . BUT
Do you smoke? Do you drink alcohol? Do you drive a car? Do you legally own a firearm? Why would you particularly single out motorcycle riders (apart from the obvious personal experience) when all of these things also impact on the budget of the health system (some a great deal more than motorcycling ever will).
DeBurcs said it all for me, the only people to admit to excessive speed (in a projectile weighing more than a tonne) were the police officers involved. Now maybe police driving at speed is necessary, i don't know, and am not inclined to pass judgement. The only thing i know is that here in the UK they kill a large number of people every year speeding to the scene of an incident that was over before they left. And lets not get on to the subject of unlawful killings with police firearms. (don't run to catch a tube in London if you have the wrong complexion and, outrageously, a backpack on)
There is a strong case for simply outlawing big arse bikes as a form of transport or at the least denying them uninsured medical treatment.
DeBurcs said it all for me, the only people to admit to excessive speed (in a projectile weighing more than a tonne) were the police officers involved. Now maybe police driving at speed is necessary, i don't know, and am not inclined to pass judgement. The only thing i know is that here in the UK they kill a large number of people every year speeding to the scene of an incident that was over before they left. And lets not get on to the subject of unlawful killings with police firearms. (don't run to catch a tube in London if you have the wrong complexion and, outrageously, a backpack on)
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"Like whatever..."
I've done my best and now I'm spent. You guys will have to figure it all out on your own now.
When someone comes along and spews forth the sort of offscourings and flapdoodle such as fluffystuff has bitch-slapped us with, I despair not only for for the readership of pprune but for the image of the professional pilot in general.
Fluff has plumbed new depths of tripe, bad grammar and indignity and one can only hope he is, at best, denigrating the profession of hosty, rather than, at worst, that of the airline pilot which has already suffered enough in this thread.
Alas, from what I've seen of pilots' educational standards lately, he probably is a proud junior aviator.
TL, I also tried to show you the real reason the pilots' profession was mentioned but you may need to re-read my last couple of posts.
PS: Thanks, Alistair
Me go now.
I've done my best and now I'm spent. You guys will have to figure it all out on your own now.
When someone comes along and spews forth the sort of offscourings and flapdoodle such as fluffystuff has bitch-slapped us with, I despair not only for for the readership of pprune but for the image of the professional pilot in general.
Fluff has plumbed new depths of tripe, bad grammar and indignity and one can only hope he is, at best, denigrating the profession of hosty, rather than, at worst, that of the airline pilot which has already suffered enough in this thread.
Alas, from what I've seen of pilots' educational standards lately, he probably is a proud junior aviator.
TL, I also tried to show you the real reason the pilots' profession was mentioned but you may need to re-read my last couple of posts.
PS: Thanks, Alistair
Me go now.
inthefluffystuff
So basically what you are saying is that you break the law, or have broken it in a pre-meditated fashion, and would do so again?
May I have your name, licence no and employer again please? I'll be steering clear of your airline. Now is that not the ridiculous attitude which is really being debated here, not whether the particular actions were justifiable?
DeBurcs, give us some more, its a cack.
TL
And you thought we'd be interested because......?
May I have your name, licence no and employer again please? I'll be steering clear of your airline. Now is that not the ridiculous attitude which is really being debated here, not whether the particular actions were justifiable?
DeBurcs, give us some more, its a cack.
TL
Why not post it? It's aviation related, and sparks a discussion like this. If I didn't post it, someone else would have.
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So ANY pilot (or anyone else posting here) who has KNOWINGLY sped,needs to be:
Named and shamed here;
bollocked as irresponsible idiots at work because of their deliberate speeding;
accused of being potential killers/maimers/speed crazed freaks;
derided as being the ONLY fools in Australia to ever have done it;
accused of being immature;
not having the experience of the ace racers (my god we've got a lot of Wayne Gardiner challengers out there);
scorned just for being YOUNG Virgin Blue Captains.
Get yourselves a life all of you blameless, shameless goody two shoes.
They fcucked up - possibly inadvertantly, as they didn't try to run.
Who hasn't been deceived by tricky speed limit signs?
I unknowingly copped a $250 fine on the Gold Coast last year, because of the cunningly concealed speed limit signs, and a speed camera - neither of which I knew about until the photo and fine arrived in the post.
Pull the plank out of your own eye, before you try removing the speck in other peoples'.
And perlease, can we not have any more "I was an ace racer" stories, ffs.
Named and shamed here;
bollocked as irresponsible idiots at work because of their deliberate speeding;
accused of being potential killers/maimers/speed crazed freaks;
derided as being the ONLY fools in Australia to ever have done it;
accused of being immature;
not having the experience of the ace racers (my god we've got a lot of Wayne Gardiner challengers out there);
scorned just for being YOUNG Virgin Blue Captains.
Get yourselves a life all of you blameless, shameless goody two shoes.
They fcucked up - possibly inadvertantly, as they didn't try to run.
Who hasn't been deceived by tricky speed limit signs?
I unknowingly copped a $250 fine on the Gold Coast last year, because of the cunningly concealed speed limit signs, and a speed camera - neither of which I knew about until the photo and fine arrived in the post.
Pull the plank out of your own eye, before you try removing the speck in other peoples'.
And perlease, can we not have any more "I was an ace racer" stories, ffs.
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When this post first appeared, I had a strange feelng that it may get nasty. And that was after only 3 or 4 posts.
I feel that CONTRACT CON'S sentiment, "WHO GIVES A FCUK", sumed up the importance of it , but sometimes things that shouldn't, seem to get the momentum.
When I first saw the post I wasn’t even going to comment , so what, two dikcheads who obviously didn't give a siht about the other road users, got done for speeding.....(my local rag reports that each edition) but then , a suggestion is made that the cops had the adaucity to check the speed of the two said dikcs, and somehow the cops are responsible. Well sorry, can't help myself.
Those Coppers did what they where paid for, they looked after the public, and the Court agreed, fining the two said law breaking dikcs.
And if those lawbreaker had of been train drivers, ferry boat captains, or taxi drivers, there is a good chance that their names and occupations would have been published in the local rag.
Now, leaving the subject, if I may…..
DeBurcs, the handle is EJECTOR PUMP, not JUNKET PUMP,…perhaps your fingers were a little fast for the brain check… or …maybe you were trying to be funny….
Anyway, you seem to have taken a rather precious view to all this, LAW 101 probably mentions....Every person who goes to court is fair game for the press, as, HELLO, it is on the Public Record.
Perhaps you believe that we pilots should be treated differently than the rest of the population. (BTW if you haven't realized, God status has gone downhill since Smithy crossed the Pacific).
As to my indiscretions, , well nothing so serious as to answer the BEAK in person but, as you seem interested …1 on the spot speeding fine, 2 speed camera fines and at last recall 6 parking fines. And I am not proud of any of them.
Hey, In my life I have noted…the older people get, the less PRECIOUS they become.
BTW Master DeBurcs, how young are you.
I feel that CONTRACT CON'S sentiment, "WHO GIVES A FCUK", sumed up the importance of it , but sometimes things that shouldn't, seem to get the momentum.
When I first saw the post I wasn’t even going to comment , so what, two dikcheads who obviously didn't give a siht about the other road users, got done for speeding.....(my local rag reports that each edition) but then , a suggestion is made that the cops had the adaucity to check the speed of the two said dikcs, and somehow the cops are responsible. Well sorry, can't help myself.
Those Coppers did what they where paid for, they looked after the public, and the Court agreed, fining the two said law breaking dikcs.
And if those lawbreaker had of been train drivers, ferry boat captains, or taxi drivers, there is a good chance that their names and occupations would have been published in the local rag.
Now, leaving the subject, if I may…..
DeBurcs, the handle is EJECTOR PUMP, not JUNKET PUMP,…perhaps your fingers were a little fast for the brain check… or …maybe you were trying to be funny….
Anyway, you seem to have taken a rather precious view to all this, LAW 101 probably mentions....Every person who goes to court is fair game for the press, as, HELLO, it is on the Public Record.
Perhaps you believe that we pilots should be treated differently than the rest of the population. (BTW if you haven't realized, God status has gone downhill since Smithy crossed the Pacific).
As to my indiscretions, , well nothing so serious as to answer the BEAK in person but, as you seem interested …1 on the spot speeding fine, 2 speed camera fines and at last recall 6 parking fines. And I am not proud of any of them.
Hey, In my life I have noted…the older people get, the less PRECIOUS they become.
BTW Master DeBurcs, how young are you.
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so the answer is:
for all those people out there who have had a parking ticket, or been cautioned by the police for being drunk in a public place, or may been rude to someone in a service industry......
you are not wanted by society. you will never find a decent job. you are irresponsible.
you ever tell your wife / mother that she looked beautiful in that dress? You, you, you liar you, you liar. The aviation industry in particular doesn't want you.
ever have a red bill? been late with a payment? been threatened with court action? you are just financially irresponsible - how can you be expected to look after the lives of hundreds of people on board your plane?
you dress like a slob at weekends? you don't exercise regularly? you over-eat at christmas? if you can't look after yourself, how can you be exepected to.....blah...blah....blah
the cretinous stuff posted on this thread....now if someone like "Chopper" tried to get an aviation licence, I can understand the problem somepeople might have !
now as a lawyer in the UK - should I be practising law if I have speeding convictions (which I do.......)? Is anyone of you sanctimonious enough to say to your lawyer when you want a divorce because you found out your wife had been caught speeding in a built up area - "excuse me, but before you respresent me, and I make a case out for custody of the children on the grounds the mother is an irresponsible law breaker, do you have any speeding convictions yourself?"
hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
for all those people out there who have had a parking ticket, or been cautioned by the police for being drunk in a public place, or may been rude to someone in a service industry......
you are not wanted by society. you will never find a decent job. you are irresponsible.
you ever tell your wife / mother that she looked beautiful in that dress? You, you, you liar you, you liar. The aviation industry in particular doesn't want you.
ever have a red bill? been late with a payment? been threatened with court action? you are just financially irresponsible - how can you be expected to look after the lives of hundreds of people on board your plane?
you dress like a slob at weekends? you don't exercise regularly? you over-eat at christmas? if you can't look after yourself, how can you be exepected to.....blah...blah....blah
the cretinous stuff posted on this thread....now if someone like "Chopper" tried to get an aviation licence, I can understand the problem somepeople might have !
now as a lawyer in the UK - should I be practising law if I have speeding convictions (which I do.......)? Is anyone of you sanctimonious enough to say to your lawyer when you want a divorce because you found out your wife had been caught speeding in a built up area - "excuse me, but before you respresent me, and I make a case out for custody of the children on the grounds the mother is an irresponsible law breaker, do you have any speeding convictions yourself?"
hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
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More importantly... what exactly IS the "D SQDRN 97th IOTC"???
It's not one of those very sad, very tragic, geek combat flight sim "virtual squadrons", is it??
Oh how I'll laugh if it is!!!
I like your posting style even if you ARE a barking mad loony.
It's not one of those very sad, very tragic, geek combat flight sim "virtual squadrons", is it??
Oh how I'll laugh if it is!!!
I like your posting style even if you ARE a barking mad loony.
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IOTC means "Initial Officer Training Course" run by the RAF in the UK.
97th refers to the number of the course that I attended back in the 80s.
Not a flight sim...no. Sorry to disappoint.
97th refers to the number of the course that I attended back in the 80s.
Not a flight sim...no. Sorry to disappoint.
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Shame. But you do realise there isn't exactly a shortage of these nerd Sqns out there...
And there's no shortage of nerds manning them, either!
Isn't it "Sqn" and not "Sqdrn"??
Over here we call it the JOIC.
And there's no shortage of nerds manning them, either!
Isn't it "Sqn" and not "Sqdrn"??
Over here we call it the JOIC.
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Deburcs
You sound like you would love the world to know you fly sh*t sure as hell impresses me. (I suppose you pull high alpha's and that is better than yourself)
Pilots all wanks? I do not think so but a couple of wayward types who take to the road and ride badly deserve a few harsh words.
Do not believe in job loss for these guy's but a bit of heckling may help.
You sound like you would love the world to know you fly sh*t sure as hell impresses me. (I suppose you pull high alpha's and that is better than yourself)
Pilots all wanks? I do not think so but a couple of wayward types who take to the road and ride badly deserve a few harsh words.
Do not believe in job loss for these guy's but a bit of heckling may help.
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D SQDRN I am sorry you have to put up with this neanderthal tripe.
We have many psuedo intellectuals in this part of the world who claim sovereignty to stupid, sub-human behaviour. So small minded and pathetic, their lives are fulfilled by casting aspersion and vilifying, and they define themselves by berating and finding perceived short comings with other individuals. What sad and hopelessly indignified parasites we have to live and contend with down here. Fortunately their numbers are small, despite the vast coverage of their verbal diarrhoea.
Two guys get caught speeding, and it gets turned into one of the greatest sludge fests seen on prune, with parrallels drawn on safety, professionalism and other irrelevant garbage. You guys are an embarrassment to the rest of us! Only in Australia!!
Hope all is well in the Mother land.
We have many psuedo intellectuals in this part of the world who claim sovereignty to stupid, sub-human behaviour. So small minded and pathetic, their lives are fulfilled by casting aspersion and vilifying, and they define themselves by berating and finding perceived short comings with other individuals. What sad and hopelessly indignified parasites we have to live and contend with down here. Fortunately their numbers are small, despite the vast coverage of their verbal diarrhoea.
Two guys get caught speeding, and it gets turned into one of the greatest sludge fests seen on prune, with parrallels drawn on safety, professionalism and other irrelevant garbage. You guys are an embarrassment to the rest of us! Only in Australia!!
Hope all is well in the Mother land.
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Cannot see why ones private life has to be tied to ones work life. I can see the fish wrapper article now, "pilot seen having a beer at home, neighbour Sharlene says - must be reul dangerouz bloke eh". What next ? Rug dancing for the DFO because you bought a V8 for towing the family boat?
What a load of codswallop. Pathetic media indeed. One knows the difference between work and play and behave accordingly. Nothing more than the journo scum at work on the tall poppy syndrome. Lets just screw up anybody whose made an effort in their lives for any common misdemenour.
I am a keen motorcyclist and also consider myself a responsible airline pilot, I also raced bikes, both MX and superbikes for many years, but never took similar risks in the cockpit. One CPT I flew with in the regionals was perhaps the most conservative and solid skip I ever flew with and he used his old GSX1000R "quite well" on the weekends. No correlation IMHO.
I feel sorry for these 2 young guys. Maybe they did show less than perfect judgement outside work but who hasnt and why should they be shamed like that. Good on the judge for chucking most of the charges - as anyone involved in the legal profession or the Police (from the inside) will tell you its a game and they will throw as many charges at someone as they can, regardless of the truth - more chance of a win that way.
However the media, showing their usual objectivity and professionalsim NOT! Equal treatment for everybody would be nice.
Although IMHO they should be shamed for riding Jap sh*te. Surely a VB skip can afford a nice 999/MVF4/Aprilla, etc, Ha!
What a load of codswallop. Pathetic media indeed. One knows the difference between work and play and behave accordingly. Nothing more than the journo scum at work on the tall poppy syndrome. Lets just screw up anybody whose made an effort in their lives for any common misdemenour.
I am a keen motorcyclist and also consider myself a responsible airline pilot, I also raced bikes, both MX and superbikes for many years, but never took similar risks in the cockpit. One CPT I flew with in the regionals was perhaps the most conservative and solid skip I ever flew with and he used his old GSX1000R "quite well" on the weekends. No correlation IMHO.
I feel sorry for these 2 young guys. Maybe they did show less than perfect judgement outside work but who hasnt and why should they be shamed like that. Good on the judge for chucking most of the charges - as anyone involved in the legal profession or the Police (from the inside) will tell you its a game and they will throw as many charges at someone as they can, regardless of the truth - more chance of a win that way.
However the media, showing their usual objectivity and professionalsim NOT! Equal treatment for everybody would be nice.
Although IMHO they should be shamed for riding Jap sh*te. Surely a VB skip can afford a nice 999/MVF4/Aprilla, etc, Ha!
Surely a VB skip can afford a nice 999/MVF4/Aprilla, etc, Ha!
Can't wait!
I'm going to get into soooooo much trouble.
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A question and a suggestion WRT to your soon to be acquired Aprilia RSV-1000-R.
Q - Are you going to give up flying on or before aquisition, in anticipation of the trouble you're going to get into and the obvious belief by many that that will preclude you from being a pilot?
S - When you get pinged by the authorities, it might pay to give a name other than 18-Wheeler, otherwise there'll be another 5 pages plus on PPRuNe villifying you! 
A question and a suggestion WRT to your soon to be acquired Aprilia RSV-1000-R.
Q - Are you going to give up flying on or before aquisition, in anticipation of the trouble you're going to get into and the obvious belief by many that that will preclude you from being a pilot?
S - When you get pinged by the authorities, it might pay to give a name other than 18-Wheeler, otherwise there'll be another 5 pages plus on PPRuNe villifying you!