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Old 20th Nov 2004, 00:59
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I certainly get a huge laugh when people miss the mark by a few million miles.

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Old 22nd Dec 2004, 17:35
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i suppose its when you have been in the cockpit for so long thats its so boring to you that you have to try and invent aero-grammar and make it the prime concern of aviation life, as well as your pet hate, and examine everyone else as you autoconceive imaginery standards....takes the fun out of life
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Old 22nd Dec 2004, 22:57
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The spanker's are still out there, heard "The Speedbird One Eight" Departing Melbourne just yesterday....

One Ball, why is Commander any more tosser like than captain? They both have origins in the same place!!

I for one am demanding people call me X-O instead of first officer these days!!

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Old 23rd Dec 2004, 22:20
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Just out of interest Sunfish- what is the ICAO wording on g'day?

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Old 24th Dec 2004, 03:34
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Dunno, but I started using it back when talking to YMEN Tower. They seem a very friendly, competent and very busy lot.

All of the long suffering ATC and briefing seem to put up with my stupidities ( the flight plan involving time travel and the occasional failure to cancel SARTIME) and never bite back.

They seem to have the patience of Job. I wonder what they feed them?

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Old 25th Dec 2004, 13:20
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Just a quick one

What is the general feeling about the R/T Professionalism of aussie military pilots?

I would be interested to know.
 
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RAAF phraseology seems fine, generally. They are taught properly.

But they can't get past that bad habit of sounding like they've half-swallowed their mic as they speak.

Move the mic a little further from your mouths, guys. (pleeeease...)
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Old 25th Dec 2004, 20:22
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Move the mic a little further from your mouths, guys. (pleeeease...)

???? With the mike built into the O2 mask, how do they do that
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Old 26th Dec 2004, 00:44
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Take the mask off and hope they get it back on before becoming hypoxic!

A bit like military fling wing pilots always sound sh!t scared on the radio!!!
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Old 26th Dec 2004, 06:24
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Cool

CC,

Not S scared, more like curious: as in, why am I up here instead of in the bar

Going OT with differing audio sounds, the type of mic & headset is quite noticable in GA, ranging from clear as a bell, to bl**dy awful. VicPol have a dreadful audio since CHC stripped the soundproofing from their machines, often almost unreadable, and some of the bugsmashers around need a severe microphone upgrade

We used to operate with throat mikes, and got fairly used to interpreting radio calls (and intercom chat!) in deep bass, but all went to pieces when we embarked and had to deal with aluminium death tube drivers with their P masks, and Flyco/Ops with shipborne boom mikes. That lot sorted out the deaf from the cloth eared
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Old 26th Dec 2004, 08:27
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When I was flying a glider towplane for a gliding club at a city in Hokkaido Japan I used to hear quite often a formation of Huey Cobra attack helicopters do the Japanese version of an 'all stations' broadcast as they transited our area. The flight leader always did the transmission and his voice always caused some merriment amongst us as he always sounded as he was being severely shaken about.
There were muffled snorts of amusement with tongue biting etc when some of us eventually met him at a party and we found that he actually spoke like that in reality!!

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With the mike built into the O2 mask, how do they do that
Something's gone badly wrong if he's swallowed his oxy mask mic.... sucking on a depleted cylinder maybe...

No, they are not all knuckleheads. I meant the guys who wear headsets or helmets with boom-mics. Always sounds like they are chewing on the mic when they're jawing through a well-worded transmission. You can hear the varying acoustic properties of their cheek-linings.
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Old 26th Dec 2004, 18:37
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1-Ball et al:
The term "commander" is used by JAA in all documents to refer to the pilot in command. The FAA and CAA (Aust) still refer to the pilot in command as "pilot in command".
Neither terms invoke "tosser" IMHO, but represent what the authorities have decided upon.
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Old 26th Dec 2004, 23:48
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The term 'Commander' is also used to differentiate between the nominated commander of a heavy or double crewed aircraft where there is more than one captain on board.

If ATC miss your call sign when you make a transmission and ask for your callsign, ("aircraft calling at FL350 say again callsign" for example), then replying with, "It's the AB123" doesn't sound out of place, on the other hand announcing oneself as "THE AB123" is a bit unnecessary!

Anyone else think that the really sad wonkers/spankers here are the ones that seem to get so upset about it?
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Old 31st Dec 2004, 08:49
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A couple of tales from the past - and it seems that not a lot has changed.

Rember Captain Norman Bristow - British Airways used him in their advertising back in the late 70s I think it was. He was known for calling ATC with "Sydney, Norman here".

On Departures when 'The Speedbird XXX' reported airborne but failed to readback the assigned level. When requested to readback the assigned level the response was "I'm too busy". What a - rhymes with spanker.
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Old 31st Dec 2004, 22:45
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Oh Vampire,

"Captain Hushpower" was my boyhood hero, I am devastated to find out his real name was "Captain Spanker"!!

Cheers, HH.

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Old 6th Jan 2005, 08:34
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Whilst on R/T.

Anyone else out there amazed as I am, how some guys/girls that have probably been flyin around the planet for years, have not noticed that their transmissions are really distorted and garbled due to having the mic rammed in between their lips.
Seems to me only about maybe 30% of people do it, however, it does make listening to them difficult and even the controllers at times have a prob understanding them due to all the spluttering.

Not having a shot as none of us are perfect. (Just thought I'd put that in)
It is a problem that can be so easily rectified if only they are made aware of the situation. With of course, the use of much diplomacy.
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Old 6th Jan 2005, 20:43
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Roadrunner,

Some mics are actually designed to be placed in the corner of your mouth between your lips and are shaped as such.

The one that I have is definately designed this way and I have never been accused of being garbled, furthermore the rig is 17 years old, although the mic has been replaced several times. May I suggest improper maintenance, having the mic to far away from one's mouth, faulty coms, poor soundproofing as well as a host of other reasons cause people to sound garbled.

Cheers, HH.



PS: Of course a few elocution lesson's for some people would'nt go astray.

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Old 6th Jan 2005, 22:24
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On the older telephone handsets an accumulation of condensation/saliva etc would cause them to eventually go very woolly and distorted, in the case of the telephone it was rectified thus: screw off top of mouth-piece, remove old unit, insert new unit, replace top of mouth-piece, carry on 'phoning.

Possibly some of the older mics. now in use need replacing?
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Old 6th Jan 2005, 22:59
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It would also help if some of the more expereinced and professional pilots didn't demonstrate their mastery of voice procedure by speaking at a million words per minute.

e.g."allstationsblahblahgrngopXYZrollingrunway17forgrzzzzinc hnoabove5000"

It may sound way cool, and not clog the frequency, but some of us slow thinkers prefer the wayATC, the VB and QF guys do it. Especially if the mic or comms are bad.
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