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Old 17th Feb 2004, 05:03
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Arrow NZ Regionals, what's the latest?

OK guys/gals, we're well into 2004, Origin and Air Nelson are in the middle of ground courses - let's see if all those spectacular predictions from last year have much truth to them. Are Air NZ and Cathay hiring as aggressively as some said they would, and of course what's happening in Hamilton?

Comments from those in the know would be appreciated - give us something to get excited about!
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Keeping it short

Pilots are required for regionals....................I will not quote numbers

I also thought Cathay where on a slow down?????????????

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I've heard Air Nsn are going to be hiring another bunch of guys & gals in March
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Thanks guys, anyone know what's happening at Eagle?
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Check out your pm's and that may answer some of the questions you are asking.

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Origin is running a J41 course in march which will be mostly upgrades from the j31/32 fleet so maybe only 5 or 6 new jobs. j31 course is in its second week now with about 8 lads i think. word on the street is that air nelson are on the lookout.
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Cloud cutter,

Eagle are looking to interview again very soon, as of March 8, their pool of ground coursed pilots will dry up.

I've heard that Air NSN have delayed their March ground course till later in the month so they can fit another interview round in.

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Good onya Sq2000! can someone please tell me where to apply to Air Nelson? I thought they were on Staff C.V but didnt find them on it.Do you apply via the Air New Zealand web site or just give them a call..?
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OBJSTER,

Air Nelson are still using a paper application. Give them a call +64 3 547 8727.

Thanks S2K, good info.
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Air Nelsons minimums, (currently) are around the 1500hr mark with 500 multi. However always subject to change.

Also they might be getting ATR-42's to replace the SAAB 340a's.
As soon as 2005!
Although there is another, as yet previously un mentioned A/C manufact. that is still in with a show........

Average pay, (but of course you do it for the love of flying...) is about $35k plus allow....

Eagle requirements, not sure, but a bit less than Nelson's.

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Old 19th Feb 2004, 06:58
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Most new F/Os don't have an ATPL, however completing the theory requirements would probibly give you a better chance.

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Is that confirmed? I heard something about ATRs for Air Nelson last year - won't that bring up all sorts of debate as to pay and conditions given that the 42 is essentially the same as a 72? I surpose at least they could share a sim. Interesting!
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Does any one know how many are being interviewed next week for Air Nelson? and where from?

As an aside about the ATR I heard, as you do, that the NZCAA has told Mt Cook that they have to get a sim for the 72. So this would mean cheaper training for Air NZ. However the more I think about it the stranger it seems that the CAA can in fact force an airline to purchase a sim. Shirley if the training was done to a satisfactory standard by an outside service provider then the CAA has nothing to complain about?
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Nothing can train you better than sim training. Plus trg in the aircraft is down-right dangerous.

I think there is something about aircraft over a certain weight having to train in/on a sim.

It will be nice to see Mt Cook do some "real" training, not blasting off in yesterdays Wellington weather on one engine at 10,000ft into the Ferry hold!

Apparently the final three choices are supposed to be; SAAB 2000 (nice!) the ATR42-500 plus another T/Prop is still in with a chance (not b4 seen in NZ).

KYM,
Not a requirement to have your ATPL, but having all the subjects helps heaps.

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Yes, it's certainly very interesting to see an empty ATR doing touch and goes (more go than touch) - I'm sure a sim would be a much cheaper/safer option, also I gather it would allow reduced take-off minima on those foggy HLZ mornings?

Pitty about the Saab 2000 - nice machine, why didn't they consider the EMB Brasilia? (of course not much of this sentence makes sense in light of recent edits)

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I think you'll find they are considering absolutely everything.

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Interesting edits BCF..

I too have heard of another european contender.....
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Interesting? Confusing maybe

I too have heard of another european contender.....
Surely can't be too many around - J41, ATP, Fokker 50? - Doubt any of those stand up to the other two.

The Dornier (Fairchild Aerospace) 328 is the only real contender I can think of, hmmmm, might be somthing in that.

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Old 20th Feb 2004, 11:28
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You should be a detective...
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GOT TO WONDER IF ANY TYPE OTHER THAN ATR'S ARE IN WITH A SHOW REALLY? WITH THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE ATR72 AND 42 ESPECIALLY SPARES AND ENGINEERS WISE. AND THE BEST THING IS I THINK THE NEAREST SIM IS IN THAILAND, NICE TRIP AWAY FOR THE BOYS.
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I believe that the NZ CAA still allow MCA to perform recurrent training on the aircraft. This exemption expires 01/01/05.
After that date they have to perform recurrent checks on a simulator. The ATR42/72 sim in Bangkok is already NZ CAA approved (and has been for the past 2 years) as MCA perform their initial courses there.

As an aside - a 2nd ATR sim has now been installed in BKK
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