Professionalism At Virgin
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What I suspect it all boils down to is publicity; ie keeping VB in the publics eye using the old maxim that any publicity is good as long as it reminds the punters that VB is here and we're all one jolly good mob of happy workers etc etc.
Meantime Sir Dickie sings 'My God how the money roll in' whilst laughing all the way to the bank that one day he may even buy!
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
Meantime Sir Dickie sings 'My God how the money roll in' whilst laughing all the way to the bank that one day he may even buy!
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
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Get real you guys at QF, I thought Totaii Kefu was a pilot after seeing the commercial of him kicking the tyres of the 737-800(ARU sponsors),I remember thinking AN flight attendants always bowled peanuts to each other(ACB sponsors). Can't you people divorce fiction from reality.
That said,I wish we could work in a pair boardies and thongs.
That said,I wish we could work in a pair boardies and thongs.
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Matter of fact, the TV coverage of the event showed cockpit footage whilst airborne of the two pilots wearing uniform shirt and Virgin boxer shorts, whilst sitting at the controls.
At least I hope they were pilots, because if they were models then the airline was in breach of certain regulations with regards to who can sit at a flight station whilst in flight.
And if they were in fact pilots, then whilst no regulations were broken, sorry but this distraction was unprofessional at the very least.
At least I hope they were pilots, because if they were models then the airline was in breach of certain regulations with regards to who can sit at a flight station whilst in flight.
And if they were in fact pilots, then whilst no regulations were broken, sorry but this distraction was unprofessional at the very least.
What are Virgin Blue's requirements for acceptance into the Cockpit while in flight.(assuming proplever is correct and the aircraft was in-flight)
I know another large airline in Australia(
) would not allow a camera crew to do this.
I know another large airline in Australia(
) would not allow a camera crew to do this.
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What happened to Australia?
This is the last place I would expect to see a bunch of Australians being so upset about some people having fun at work.
I left Australia in 1990 to marry my American wife. I have been flying here ever since and be ******ed if I thought I'd ever see the day where people in Australia gave a thought to what people are wearing at work, let alone get this upset.
What happened, did the country run out of friggin' beer with the last drought?
I left Australia in 1990 to marry my American wife. I have been flying here ever since and be ******ed if I thought I'd ever see the day where people in Australia gave a thought to what people are wearing at work, let alone get this upset.
What happened, did the country run out of friggin' beer with the last drought?
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Chris, the politically correct minority are getting more air time and they think the rest of us care for their opinion!
Just read proplevers comments. "If in fact they were pilot's" well who else would they be?, "whilst no regulations were broken", of course they were not!, "this distraction was unprofessional at the very least", I repeat my comment this is anal retentive Oz at it's best.
The fact this even made the forum is testimony to some very sad people. I guess as long as they are complaining about Virgin they are leaving someone else alone. I suggest some of the contributors having operated only in Australia all their limited lives, would know very little as to what constitutes professionalism.
Alas we humour them with our patience and lack of vitriol.
Just read proplevers comments. "If in fact they were pilot's" well who else would they be?, "whilst no regulations were broken", of course they were not!, "this distraction was unprofessional at the very least", I repeat my comment this is anal retentive Oz at it's best.
The fact this even made the forum is testimony to some very sad people. I guess as long as they are complaining about Virgin they are leaving someone else alone. I suggest some of the contributors having operated only in Australia all their limited lives, would know very little as to what constitutes professionalism.
Alas we humour them with our patience and lack of vitriol.
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Then stay in church and attend choir practise, don't go to the airport!
Flying was always supposed to be an occupation the rest of us can enjoy...
From the sounds of it, Australian aviation has had larger problems than this that need to be fixed. Didn't Horizon just go under, before that it was Ansett, Compass II, Compass I.
I had a friend who is now at Qantas that once told me, "If they can't take a joke, tell them all to stay home".
It has always been part of the Aussie culture to not take yourself too seriously, only your job! That's what sets us apart from the rest of the world.
Come on, Aussie grab another beer, blow it off and just be friends!
Flying was always supposed to be an occupation the rest of us can enjoy...
From the sounds of it, Australian aviation has had larger problems than this that need to be fixed. Didn't Horizon just go under, before that it was Ansett, Compass II, Compass I.
I had a friend who is now at Qantas that once told me, "If they can't take a joke, tell them all to stay home".
It has always been part of the Aussie culture to not take yourself too seriously, only your job! That's what sets us apart from the rest of the world.
Come on, Aussie grab another beer, blow it off and just be friends!
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Okay - so if you want to see those commercials that show on TV, then here are the old and the new.
And yes - on Virgins website. Just takes a little searching! But here is the direct LINK!
http://www.virginblue.com.au/about/ads.html
Bo!
And yes - on Virgins website. Just takes a little searching! But here is the direct LINK!
http://www.virginblue.com.au/about/ads.html
Bo!
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Sperm breath. Duuuhhh?
Pilots - they might be models, as were used elsewhere that day. Read the fricking posts.
Regulations broken? If those were in fact models at the controls in flight as it showed on commercial TV, then yes regulations were broken. Read your CAO/CAR.
In your underwear at the controls on national TV? If you reckon thats professional, then sh1t mate, I can guarantee no-one with a half of a brain would want to fly with you. Which is why only ferals seem to fly VB.
Jeeez, you can't even seem to understand basic english, yet you have the nerve to somehow criticize my post?
I couldn't care less what they do anytime ever, unless it affects me. Would I allow such behaviour on my flight deck? No - it simply isn't appropriate in a Boeing - thats why it isn't in Boeing's manuals.
Am I trying to be politically correct by saying this? Not particularly, its not about politics. Its about professionalism. Something that you and RB cannot seem to see.
Professionalism does not = media stunts.
Pilots - they might be models, as were used elsewhere that day. Read the fricking posts.
Regulations broken? If those were in fact models at the controls in flight as it showed on commercial TV, then yes regulations were broken. Read your CAO/CAR.
In your underwear at the controls on national TV? If you reckon thats professional, then sh1t mate, I can guarantee no-one with a half of a brain would want to fly with you. Which is why only ferals seem to fly VB.
Jeeez, you can't even seem to understand basic english, yet you have the nerve to somehow criticize my post?
I couldn't care less what they do anytime ever, unless it affects me. Would I allow such behaviour on my flight deck? No - it simply isn't appropriate in a Boeing - thats why it isn't in Boeing's manuals.
Am I trying to be politically correct by saying this? Not particularly, its not about politics. Its about professionalism. Something that you and RB cannot seem to see.
Professionalism does not = media stunts.
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ferals maybe.....so there must be over three million ferals now.
And ferals have money.
Bit like the ferals that fly with Qantas.
Generally not a good idea to guarantee that no one with half a brain will not fly with VB.....they do, sometimes they even have real people on board.
I suppose RB looks a little feral with the flowing locks and beard, but hey without his feral instincts, we would all be wearing QF Y fronts............
Dead set mate, you are a Wally. Breach of regs...is that the best you can do.
Measure the marketing effort and you may understand that your comments and snide remarks only add to the power of their push.
Proplever you had better go now, I think I hear your FOI calling, she has dinner, jamies and hot milo ready for you....
And ferals have money.
Bit like the ferals that fly with Qantas.
Generally not a good idea to guarantee that no one with half a brain will not fly with VB.....they do, sometimes they even have real people on board.
I suppose RB looks a little feral with the flowing locks and beard, but hey without his feral instincts, we would all be wearing QF Y fronts............
Dead set mate, you are a Wally. Breach of regs...is that the best you can do.
Measure the marketing effort and you may understand that your comments and snide remarks only add to the power of their push.
Proplever you had better go now, I think I hear your FOI calling, she has dinner, jamies and hot milo ready for you....
20th Century airline crew conversation - rival companies:
"So, Bill, how is the farm going?"
"Not bad Kev - got a hundred and fifty head of Santa Gertrudis grazing at the moment."
"Really? That's excellent. By the way, I heard your mob had a bit of strife with accommodation in LAX?"
"Yeah mate, but it's all sorted now. We agreed to settle on a five star hotel, instead of five and a half star..."
"Good call. Listen mate, great to catch up - might see you next month for a beer..."
"Seeya."
21st Century airline crew conversation - rival companies:
"Was that you guys with your landing light shining up final?"
"F@ck off."
"Unprofessional posers..."
"My airlines better than yours..."
"No - MY airline's better than YOURS!"
"No - My airline's better than YOURS! Nyah nyah nya nya nyah nyah...."
"So, Bill, how is the farm going?"
"Not bad Kev - got a hundred and fifty head of Santa Gertrudis grazing at the moment."
"Really? That's excellent. By the way, I heard your mob had a bit of strife with accommodation in LAX?"
"Yeah mate, but it's all sorted now. We agreed to settle on a five star hotel, instead of five and a half star..."
"Good call. Listen mate, great to catch up - might see you next month for a beer..."
"Seeya."
21st Century airline crew conversation - rival companies:
"Was that you guys with your landing light shining up final?"
"F@ck off."
"Unprofessional posers..."
"My airlines better than yours..."
"No - MY airline's better than YOURS!"
"No - My airline's better than YOURS! Nyah nyah nya nya nyah nyah...."
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hahaha
Very good What-ho Squiffy !! A good laugh I had!
It is sad to think that this is becoming the norm ..... the grass is not always greener on the other side, so be happy with what you have and happy for others that are content with their lot in life, even if it is 'below' your own expectations/standards.
Better things to do in life than to try to get the upper hand....
My 2c worth!
Very good What-ho Squiffy !! A good laugh I had!
It is sad to think that this is becoming the norm ..... the grass is not always greener on the other side, so be happy with what you have and happy for others that are content with their lot in life, even if it is 'below' your own expectations/standards.
Better things to do in life than to try to get the upper hand....
My 2c worth!
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I'll bet the Virgin guys are getting laid a lot more than the QF's...
Professionalism is not running your airplane into the ground or getting violated. Everything else is technique.TC
Professionalism is not running your airplane into the ground or getting violated. Everything else is technique.TC
I can't speak for what happened on the flight but was loitering in the general vicinity of the gate when they deplaned. From memory there were 3 professional models and some male and female FAs strutting around. All quite harmless really. Passengers waiting for flights were either amused or bemused, with a few of the elderly ones going up and getting the free undies that they were giving away. As for the product, a bit tacky but bound to appeal to some of the guests.
Those of you pontificating about this must live sad repressed lives, back to your fundamentalist religious houses of worship with you.... off you go now!
Those of you pontificating about this must live sad repressed lives, back to your fundamentalist religious houses of worship with you.... off you go now!
Nunc est bibendum
Funny Baron but this has NOTHING to do with religion. I'm a Christian and I don't have any dramas with fashion shows like this. I haven't bought into the 'professionalism' argument because it doesn't serve any real purpose but I WILL buy in to those who are narrow minded enough to call people of religion 'narrow minded'.
It's obviously been a while since you've been in a Christian church if you think that Christian's are 'repressed'. 
It's obviously been a while since you've been in a Christian church if you think that Christian's are 'repressed'.
The Reverend
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Well said SpermBank, I couldn't agree with you more. Pity you had to stuff it up though with your last paragraph.
The regressive (minority) Australian attitude to change needs to be discharged to the anals of obsoletion for good. We don't need any more out of date thinkers in this country. Wake up and smell the new centuary.
What about the inaugural VB flight wasn't it? To Maroocyhdore, a pleasant saunter up the coast but on departure Traffic Staff flashed her boobs at the Chief Pilot.
With all those dignitaries on board, the old Chief Pilot was either still mesmerised by staring into the headlights of the Traffic girl or going for the number three wire on the aircraft carrier USS Maroochydore. Bang!!!
Been guilty of having many a good time on the Flight Deck myself. Out of public view and I always felt a CRM Red Flag and heightened Situational Awareness accordingly-especially with Elle or the team from Girlpower in the jumpseat.
With all those dignitaries on board, the old Chief Pilot was either still mesmerised by staring into the headlights of the Traffic girl or going for the number three wire on the aircraft carrier USS Maroochydore. Bang!!!
Been guilty of having many a good time on the Flight Deck myself. Out of public view and I always felt a CRM Red Flag and heightened Situational Awareness accordingly-especially with Elle or the team from Girlpower in the jumpseat.