I've yet to see a mutiny on PPrune translate to a NO vote. You'll take it...you know you will...:E

Very little mention anywhere of how 2011 leavers get shafted in the deal... No arrears will be paid to people who left between January and July.

That's a first time - and unwelcome - addition :bored:

Is this applicable to all Nats be they ATCO, ATSA, ATCE etc?

Only PCS grades

I voted no. Management clearly do not value engineers. On my own personal work to rule and overtime boycott now.

I am happy to be corrected, but I understood that the no compulsory redundancy agreement was more an "understanding" than a formal agreement.

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Congratulations to ASLEF and RMT who have demonstrated what a union with some nuts can achieve. Derisory 2% offer lifted to a 5% offer for ALL staff.

Yet at 5.2% and 5% next year our offer was crap?

Sometimes its worth accepting what is a sensible offer...

Any idea when the results are released?

:=You seemed to have confused me for a greedy ATCO.

If I was offered the same, I would rip your hand off!

The offer on the table for PCS grades is the "crap" offer to which I refer. The same "crap" offer that has funded the more generous offer to another trade group by the wholesale reduction of our T&Cs.

Any news on PCS and ATSS ballots?

Results are due today I believe - normally by midday ....

UPDATED:

For rejection of the offer - 15.3%
For acceptance of the offer - 84.7%
Total ballot papers received - 71.7%

Which branch are those figures for?

The result above was for PCS.

August RPI 5.2% :(

August RPI 5.2%



A GOOD DEAL BETTER ;)

and NATS ATCEs get a real terms o.8% pay cut this year and a real terms 1.2% pay cut next year. Nice one Prospect.

A massive capitulation from the PCS membership there. Surprising.

Inflation is still forecast to go higher as well.

If you voted yes to any of the deals though there's no point complaining now.

And don't blame the Union for putting a deal on the table, even if they recommended it. It's ultimately down to the membership to accept/reject.

I voted no (to the PCS deal), but I accept the result as we all live in
a demoracy don't we? (tongue in cheek that part!). However there are certain things that I've been involved in up until now that I won't be doing in future and managment can get an ATCO out of the Ops room to :mad: do them!