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fisbangwollop 18th July 2011 09:44

Did someone say EFD was a short term problem???? :rolleyes:

kats-I 18th July 2011 17:26

BD...

Previously ATSA posts have been filled by contractors responding to jobcentre vacancies, if you've got the necessary aptitude anyone can be trained.
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Time..Money..(such a shortage!!) and who will do the training??:ugh:

BDiONU 18th July 2011 18:53


Originally Posted by kats-I (Post 6579345)
Time..Money..(such a shortage!!) and who will do the training??:ugh:

Does depend on when OCT starts :E

BD

On the beach 18th July 2011 21:23


"Does depend on when OCT starts"
Isn't it on the first of OCTober? :E

ZOOKER 18th July 2011 21:46

OCT2, according to post 2315.

Ceannairceach 3rd August 2011 18:24

I see Mr Mills and a couple of executive cohorts have "left NATS with immediate effect" today.

Connected to the ongoing pay shambles perhaps?

Air.Farce.1 3rd August 2011 20:30

Would that be the same one who was " widely acknowledged as an expert in project management development and deployment." and who said in 2009 that EFD would be fully operational by November 1st 2010 ?

Minesapint 3rd August 2011 20:31

Big shame that, he will be missed :E

Ceannairceach 3rd August 2011 21:19

I bet he walks away with a few quid. I look forward to finding out exactly how much.

Use the Force 3rd August 2011 21:20

It is a shame when people lose their job :sad:

Do you think it was the ATCO's who got payed too much or the ATSA's and Engineers who did not get payed enough?

Ceannairceach 3rd August 2011 21:24

A combination of the two (plus ATSS) and EFD I'd think - and hope.

ZOOKER 3rd August 2011 22:12

Ceannairceach,
interesting to note that all trace of Mr. Mills has been removed from the NATS website this evening.
Will this post be advertised externally? I have no experience in management type things, but I have a lower second in Geology/Geography and would like to work in an office overlooking Goatfell. :ok:

Cuddles 4th August 2011 18:51

'Night of the long knives' in NERL.....

I wonder how many 'work' mobiles were left in the car today?

Ceannairceach 4th August 2011 21:10

A couple of the protagonists were in a rather important meeting with NTUS on the night of the long knives which was duly interrupted by some nice people from security who proceeded to escort said people to their desks to clear up, then off the premises.

I really hope the truths when it comes to the why's comes out....

PeltonLevel 5th August 2011 11:46

Zooker

interesting to note that all trace of Mr. Mills has been removed from the NATS website this evening.
And, at the time of this post, Ian Hall's biography still mentions his previous role as Director, International Operations (which I always imagined was a pre-retirement post)!:confused:

And Elvis's songwriter seems to have a bigger role now!

Frank Disclosure 5th August 2011 12:53

I'm not in work today so haven't read NATS net to see the reasons given or exactly who has gone along with Ian Mills, could someone enlighten me?

Me Me Me Me 5th August 2011 14:25


I'm not in work today so haven't read NATS net to see the reasons given or exactly who has gone along with Ian Mills, could someone enlighten me?
Directors of HR (NERL) and Supply Chain & Business Services went with him.

I very much doubt they will be the last...

ZOOKER 5th August 2011 14:55

Is that Phillip James? I thought he had already left. If it was his replacement, then it was a very short time in post.

Me Me Me Me 5th August 2011 15:08


Is that Phillip James? I thought he had already left. If it was his replacement, then it was a very short time in post.
Philip was NATS HR Director... This is NERL HR Director.

I know...

Frank Disclosure 5th August 2011 15:28


"left NATS with immediate effect"
That is a phrase I usually associate with people being dismissed. Were any reasons for these 'changes' given?


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