Can anyone tell me about traffic density and capacity at Shannon ACC, number of sectors they have and how many controllers are operating in each shift?

Ocean Wun Zero,

Dublin Approach Radar service is carried out in the 'Dublin Control Centre', as is Shannon Apprach Radar and sometime in the future Cork Approach Radar will be there too.

Traditionally controllers were multi-rated in Tower, Approach and Ground. There was a move away from this in recent years, however due to staffing shortages, the flexibility of multiple ratings is necessary to run the place.

So it is possible to have a single rating, as some do, but you could expect to be given more than one - time and training resources allowing.

In respone to expATCO
 

expATCO,in response to your query:
Traffic density varies dependant on both The North Atlantic Track Structure on any given day and the time of the week ie from approx Thursday to Sunday inclusive,theres a significant amount of charter traffic that predominantly flies in a North/South direction and visa versa.
As yet we do not have any usable sector capacities in operaton.A Sector Capacity study has begun and its results should be known by November of this year.
The number of sectors varies from day to day but a general rule of thumb would be approx. 6 secors for the night time Eastbound flow and betwen 6-9 sectors for the daytime Westbound flow.
The roster has already been discussed and explained on this thread and on average there are 13 operational ATCO's attatched to each team.This number would be exclusive of those on Annual Leave(For those fortunate enough to get it.)

1. Which has the most vacancies for an experienced APP controller comfy using Thales EUROCAT and speaks the Aussie dialect of English?

2. Which APP unit has the most beer quaffing Rugby afficionados that make regular trips (BIG day out type events) to Lansdowne Road and think Donal Lenihan is a cultural icon?

3. How many Euros can the said App controller expect (before and after tax) as a full time employee (not on contract)?

And How many days of Annual Leave do you have?

31 days, rising to 34 when you reach point 10 on the pay scale.

Track Coastal/expATCO
1) Dublin: APP is done in the Dublin ACC for EIDW and EINN. (EICK has its own APP unit at the moment, but that's planned to go to DUB ACC)
2) No clear winner: Not sure about "Donal Lenihan" and "cultural icon". There is no mass "ATC Supporters club", but ATCOs from all stations like to attend and/or drink beer!
3)Ballpark figures
5 years experience = €70k gross, +/- €45k nett
10 years = €80-85k gross, +/- €52k-58k nett
15 years+ = €95k-105k gross, +/- €60k-70k nett
anyone with more accurate info, feel free to jump in

Annual Leave: see Robot 1 above. There are 12 public holidays throughout the year. One may opt to add these days to Leave compliment, or receive a premium (2 times hourly rate) on top of normal days pay, if you work them

If you are given a permanent contract, then that's exactly what it is (according to union/management agreement). You'd be just like the rest of us in terms of job security.

Hope that helps, fire away with any other questions. Good luck

Wot he said^ ..in a nutshell

Is there any vacancy at dublin also ?:cool:

Yes plenty!!!!!!

Yes we all make 140000 euro.

:E

please be serious. otherwise I would think that you work in oil industry earning millions and I will resign immediately from my current position :ugh: and make harakiri

Well it came from a very reliable source so it must be true! :}

To be serious, beamwidth's figures are more accurate although they looked slightly on the high side to me, maybe by about 5000 or so.

There are definitely vacancies in Dublin. Many retirements over the next 5 years. All ratings required, the current shortage is Area, but if Dub mgmt are smart they won't wait to start a big Area course - they'll get a few people rated in ground/tower first.

So who can tell the exact figure???? With five years of experience how much would I earn? At the preliminary interview they told me approx. 75000euro per annum (including shift allowances, holiday hours etc.). How much would it be after taxes, health insurance, social insurance? What are tha rates of these?

Do they pay any additional allowances when one is married and has a child or in other cases?

2 left bass

As I understand ATCOs and airlines are enemies in Ireland? :eek: why is that? Do they earn less or think that their work is more important?

No.

But you get an extra increment after 2 years if you sign up to be an Expert i.e. to do projects/OJTI/instructor and co-ordinate.

ock1f
 

Approx how many App controllers short are you? Other than retirements are you bleeding controllers to other ANSPs as well (eg NATS, Serco Dubai etc)?

What’s the cost of living in Dublin, rent/bond, car payments, electricity, water, insurance, groceries, etc?
Can any one own property?
Do you have any discounts with airlines?

ATC1972

Don't you know that airlines are enemies?:E

So, they still need to be cleared to land.:)

But first of all they need to obtain ATC departure clearance ;-)

Guys/Girls who are successful at the preliminary interview or at other stages, please pm me. This thursday I'm going to have the second interview and wanted to talk about it

Has anybody got offer or call from IAA.:)

don't think you'll be getting one

I have got a reply back after the interview last Thursday.

I've got an interview with the Dublin Terminal Area next Wednesday, can anyone who works in Dublin PM me please, I have a few questions that I would like answered.

why not ? would definitely like to work with you !!!!

I'm working with enough phuckin' eejits as it is.

I hope you are not that type. At least some really really good people like you will be there. HA HA:)

I'm in stitches

Still no reply....:confused:

Several Ozzies have been told that they will receive written offers this week for both Shannon and Dublin.

I had a second interview last week and was given a verbal job offer for a course starting in October.

They are running Area R courses in October and January, I assume if you haven't heard by now that they would be looking at the January course for you and they would be busy arranging the October course.

Keep your head up they will probably get back to you once all the people who are on the October course are organized. :ok:

As far as I know at least two Ozzies are not happy with conditions they offer. So I don't think they would be recruited:cool:

Which ozzies would they be then?

There is one currently in Shannon and at least one already in Dublin. There is also at least one more probably two or their way to Dublin (me included) and another starts in Shannon in October.

Since I currently work in Australia I think my intel would be a bit better.

You are from Melbourne. But there are some guys from Brisbane;)

west atc
 

accuracy please....:=

There are two Aussies currently in Shannon, 2 Canadians, and a Kiwi turned up yesterday.

Ab ex Brisbane guy is in Dublin at the moment.

I do know of another Brisbane guy turning up in January, and one from Brizzy that also said no thanks and is considering Germany.

expATCO,

I think the point of my original post has gotten lost. I was saying that if you haven't heard by now then it doesn't mean that you won't be given a place.

It seems that they are organizing the October course first prior to contacting people about the January course.

Mea Culpa. :O

The point was there are still Aussies who are keen to go to Ireland because working for ASA is becoming untenable.

There will always be people who are offered and say no, it depends on what your motivation for moving is.

Got an email this morning from IAA HR.

Basically, it was thanks for your application, but no thank you.

Not quite sure what these people are loooking for!!

Finally...
 

Well, there ya go, after months of silence, and one email, I get the shove from IAA HR today...

"Thank you for your application to work as an Air Traffic Controller in the IAA.

Unfortunately, we will not be proceeding further with your application on this occasion.

Thank you for your interest in the position and I wish you well in your controller career."

Could someone tell me what you have to do to get a job with the IAA, (apart from being an Aussie or Kiwi)???...best of luck to you anyway lads and lassies...:ok:

Aaargh....25 years radar experience (Military), trained from day 1 on ATM 2000/Thales system, familiar with all the airspace, all the coord procedures...etc etc...

Sorry...but I am fuming...:ugh:...:mad::mad:

Rocky01

Does anyone know how many vacancies do they have at Shannon ACC and how many guys who had applied but changed their minds? Only facts, please...:cool:

Ok, no info about it...

I've got a job offer now and have some queries about it.

So can anyone tell anything about health insurance in Ireland? Do IAA pay for it? Cause as far as I know medical services in Ireland are not so cheap...

In case one loses his license after failing some exams what happens then? Do they offer any other vacancies within IAA?