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FCT_BJEB 17th November 2022 08:50


Originally Posted by Haylsa (Post 11332155)
Did anyone else get a phone call today with a verbal offer??
I've been given a date in March for Tower stream!
So excited now, really looking forward to starting.
She said all the details will be sent this week via letter :)
Hope everyone else hears soon

Got an offer for En-Route March training. See you in Melbourne!

ImGonnaMakeIt 20th February 2023 10:16

Hi all, I can see that trainee ATC recruitment is open again and wonder if anyone applied?
Not sure how many trainees they are recruiting this round. Does anyone remember if they send out the online assessment a few days after you've applied or after the application closes.
Do you know anyone that is successful in the recruitment being a permanent residence only? As far as I know Darwin Airport is shared with RAAF so I'd imagine you'd need to be an Australian citizen to work at that tower.
In the recruitment ad they mentioned PR is eligible but I'd imagine there aren't many that make it am I right?
Fingers cross hopefully I make it!

Maggie Island 22nd February 2023 02:27


Originally Posted by ImGonnaMakeIt (Post 11388656)
As far as I know Darwin Airport is shared with RAAF so I'd imagine you'd need to be an Australian citizen to work at that tower.
In the recruitment ad they mentioned PR is eligible but I'd imagine there aren't many that make it am I right?
Fingers cross hopefully I make it!

Not shared, DN ATC is a RAAF only affair. ARFF is provided by AsA though. Plenty of PRs make it into the company, I wouldn’t worry about not being a citizen.

Restlesss1 27th February 2023 16:21

Hi everyone,

That's incredible that you only got maybe one of those maths questions wrong, I just did that test and I must say I found the radar simulation test difficult especially at the end. I did really well in the practice part though, but I guess in the real exam you kind of get worried and have hardly any time. I guess the best method is to just pick the first thing that comes to your mind without thinking further. Also maybe I shouldn't have done it sitting in the dark at 3 am in the morning either lol Anyways I still have to do a cognitive ability test, but I felt other parts were pretty easy.

Has anyone here actually proceeded to the next round or been offered a role after not acing the radar sim test?

thecox321 28th February 2023 22:33


Originally Posted by Restlesss1 (Post 11392431)
Hi everyone,

That's incredible that you only got maybe one of those maths questions wrong, I just did that test and I must say I found the radar simulation test difficult especially at the end. I did really well in the practice part though, but I guess in the real exam you kind of get worried and have hardly any time. I guess the best method is to just pick the first thing that comes to your mind without thinking further. Also maybe I shouldn't have done it sitting in the dark at 3 am in the morning either lol Anyways I still have to do a cognitive ability test, but I felt other parts were pretty easy.

Has anyone here actually proceeded to the next round or been offered a role after not acing the radar sim test?

Hey mate - you definitely aren't alone! The radar test was incredibly difficult - i'm not sure it was designed to be 'aced'. It was definitely exponentially harder than everything else so I think we had similar experiences. Behaviour test always a bit of a toss up! Out of our hands now!

Thelamprun 1st March 2023 03:28

I finished the 2nd round of testing yesterday and got an email today saying I passed and the next round is the interrupt test on an MS Teams call with one of the recruiters. I'm a bit surprised I made it this far but I feel I did better on the 2nd round of testing than the first.

Chebouy 1st March 2023 16:01

Hey dude congratulations!!! I was wondering did you study in anyway or did the spatial reasoning and radar collisions just come naturally to you?

Thelamprun 2nd March 2023 01:18


Originally Posted by Chebouy (Post 11393546)
Hey dude congratulations!!! I was wondering did you study in anyway or did the spatial reasoning and radar collisions just come naturally to you?

Thanks! I'm a land and construction surveyor so I have a diploma in Spatial Science haha. Although a bit different to ATC I work with bearings and distances every day and have to do quick calculations with numbers and it saves a lot of time if you can do more mentally than having to whip out a calculator every time. I didn't necessarily study for the tests but I just looked up what style and format they would be in.

Also, because I'm such a nerd I play a couple different ATC simulator games. Mainly Tower 3D Pro which is tower and ground and another called Endless ATC which is an Approach radar Sim. In general I play a lot of video games so staring at a screen having to react quickly to something is not new to me 😂

PPRuNeUser0175 5th March 2023 19:39


Originally Posted by Haylsa (Post 11289060)
Well for those following, I did the online interrupt test today and actually thoroughly enjoyed it.
You are required to complete a task following commands from planes but ensuring you comply with 'rules' set out also.
Meanwhile you also need to answer questions and follow instructions on a completely different subject.
It requires concentration, accuracy and the ability to prioritise and forward plan. There's really no way to prepare for this beforehand.

Congratulations for all those who have made it so far. I was wondering if anyone could shed some more light on the interrupt test. When you refer to comply with 'rules', is this like the coded reasoning test we did in part 2? And with the answering of questions and following instructions on a different subject, could you give an example of one?

Hanzo 9th March 2023 07:18


Originally Posted by JimiCamvera (Post 11396080)
Congratulations for all those who have made it so far. I was wondering if anyone could shed some more light on the interrupt test. When you refer to comply with 'rules', is this like the coded reasoning test we did in part 2? And with the answering of questions and following instructions on a different subject, could you give an example of one?

I read on Jobtestprep that the interrupt test is very similar to the collision simulation practice where you need to split your attention. It's difficult to imagine how it would all execute between that and Haylsa's post as it was quite challenging.

Thelamprun 14th March 2023 05:49

I completed the interrupt test today and about an hour after got an email saying I passed, onto the recorded video interview! The exam was pretty interesting, I don't think I messed up on any of the planes but got a couple of the shape/math questions wrong which is to be expected. If I had to guess I would say I got like a 90% pass on it. The recruiter said they expect a high level of accuracy on the exam so I wonder what the cutoff is.

ImGonnaMakeIt 15th March 2023 09:45

I was so confident when I did the practice test that they sent earlier. But I think I got hammered in the actual test. It is not quite same as the practice ones LOL

Bruce Kent 16th March 2023 07:19

Good luck ImGonnaMakeIt! I did the online tests today. Some of the tests felt easier than the practice tests but they were definitely different. I felt I did well on Numerical Calc, Inductive Reasoning, and Checking. Verbal Reasoning is my weak spot, in the practice I always struggled even though English is my first (only) language. Hopefully I did well enough. The Spacial Ability test was by far the hardest. Turns out I'm not great at folding and unfolding cubes in my head. The OPQ was just interesting, who knows what they're looking for there...

ImGonnaMakeIt 17th March 2023 03:14

I thought I was confident in numerical and checking, but the way they time it is different, and with a crappy mouse + crappy computer, you kinda lost like 1~2 secs every question, about 30% of alloweable time so there's that. Otherwise I find Spatial and Inductive Reasoning to be very fun! Verbal Reasoning is also definitely my weakest spot :)

Tysonus 19th March 2023 11:47


Originally Posted by ImGonnaMakeIt (Post 11403633)
I thought I was confident in numerical and checking, but the way they time it is different, and with a crappy mouse + crappy computer, you kinda lost like 1~2 secs every question, about 30% of alloweable time so there's that. Otherwise I find Spatial and Inductive Reasoning to be very fun! Verbal Reasoning is also definitely my weakest spot :)

I did my online tests today, because they need to be completed by the 22nd. I'm unfortunately sick at the moment meaning I probably didn't do my best, but i won't get any other time so did it anyway.

I felt reasonably confident after the practise questions for numerical, and I'm reasonably good with numbers. I unfortunately had a few questions in round 4/5 where I took too long to get an answer, and at least 1 where I rushed to get an answer in at the last second and mistyped it. I also had one question with the verbal reasoning where I didn't realise the text had changed, and answered based off of the previous text... I'm hoping that this won't cause me to fail, as I feel pretty good about it otherwise.

I struggled a little bit with the spacial reasoning and I felt like I was a little bit slow, finishing with about 12 seconds to spare. I did enjoy the inductive reasoning, and felt that most of the patterns were very easy to see.

Jzt 21st March 2023 04:30

Hi All,

Someone care to explain the pros/cons of Tower v Enroute stream if one was lucky enough to pass the selection process?

cheers

exiflame 22nd March 2023 12:01

Of course as I'm not an ATC this is what I've seen online.

Tower:
Much harder to get into
+ You work with a view
+ Shorter training course length
+ If regional, you're most likely going to have an easier schedule (no overnights)
- Likely to be working in the middle of no where at start
- Harder to go from tower -> approach (maybe?)

Enroute:
+ Based in major population centre
- Almost certainly will have rotating 24/7 roster
- Longer course / more stressful?


ImGonnaMakeIt 22nd March 2023 12:28

I'm gonna say with tower most of the time you'll have less time to make a decision as well and deal with a lot of immediate or sudden changes?
with enroute you'll have some time to plan ahead probably.
BTW just got an email for round 2 of assessment, sent from a New Zealand email address! All the tests this time seem more complicated!

Tysonus 22nd March 2023 12:28

For anybody waiting on a response... I got an email today telling me I was successful and have been invited to do another 3 online tests. Good luck to anyone waiting!

exiflame 22nd March 2023 14:55

Very true, but I'm sure the additional traffic in enroute sectors makes up for it.

Jzt, I think I'm in the same cohort as you. The last you heard from AsA was your app being placed on hold late November following the Assessment Centre right?

Thelamprun 22nd March 2023 22:01

As some others have mentioned I have also passed the video interview and been invited for three more tests. Find it interesting that during the interrupt test the assessor said it would be the last of the testing we would have to do. I'm curious to see what these ones involve.

Jzt 22nd March 2023 22:17

Exiflame
Sent you a PM

EKalpha 22nd March 2023 23:14

Hey guys! I'm through to the next round of testing too. I got right through to the assessment day on my last application and the radar test had some compatibility issues so no one got through :ugh:- it was early 2021 so to be expected. Anyway - I have done these tests before and found them to be quite fun, but of course challenging. Nothing you can really do to prep for them to be honest.

EKalpha 22nd March 2023 23:36


Originally Posted by Thelamprun (Post 11406877)
As some others have mentioned I have also passed the video interview and been invited for three more tests. Find it interesting that during the interrupt test the assessor said it would be the last of the testing we would have to do. I'm curious to see what these ones involve.

Thelamprun, do you know if the interrupt test is in lieu of the test on the assessment centre day? I don't remember doing a test with an assessor outside of the assessment centre in my last app :confused:

Bruce Kent 23rd March 2023 06:00

I made it through to the second round of online tests as well! I went through one set of the three today (Detail Accuracy and Coded Reasoning) and I'll do the bigger set with the simulation tomorrow. Good luck to all those in the same boat (including ImGonnaMakeIt and Tysonus)!

exiflame 23rd March 2023 08:03

Off the top of my head it went: online tests (2 lots) -> interrupt test -> prerecorded interview -> assessment centre -> XRef checks.

ImGonnaMakeIt 23rd March 2023 22:13


Originally Posted by Bruce Kent (Post 11407043)
I made it through to the second round of online tests as well! I went through one set of the three today (Detail Accuracy and Coded Reasoning) and I'll do the bigger set with the simulation tomorrow. Good luck to all those in the same boat (including ImGonnaMakeIt and Tysonus)!

I've done all 3 of them, they're definitely harder than the first round, it's like a combination of a few skills you need in different tests in the first round into a single test in the second round.
Even though I think it's harder, but I enjoy doing it more, it feels more like a game, the first online test really feels just like an exam.
Good luck to everyone that's applying!


Anyone has an idea how big the intake cohorts usually are?

thecox321 24th March 2023 02:28


Originally Posted by Thelamprun (Post 11406877)
As some others have mentioned I have also passed the video interview and been invited for three more tests. Find it interesting that during the interrupt test the assessor said it would be the last of the testing we would have to do. I'm curious to see what these ones involve.

Hey Lamprun - so you have to do ANOTHER round of testing after video interview and before assesment day? They definitely did say that Assessment day would be after Video Interview in teh Interrupt Sessions. Did you also get a confirmation email saying they'd received your Video Interview? I submitted mine like two weeks ago but only got the email saying they'd received it this week. And so far nothing about progressing (but no rejection email either so holding out hope)

Thelamprun 24th March 2023 04:35


Originally Posted by EKalpha (Post 11406934)
Thelamprun, do you know if the interrupt test is in lieu of the test on the assessment centre day? I don't remember doing a test with an assessor outside of the assessment centre in my last app :confused:

For some reason I believe that the email l received was an error as I got the exact same one a month ago. This time I didn't get any emails links for the "3 tests" so makes me think it's a glitch. I also had an error last stage with my video interview test link saying it has expired even though the due date didn't pass yet. So am waiting to hear back from the assessor what to do. I'm assuming I'm still waiting for my interview to be evaluated.

For the interrupt test we where on a video call with probably about 10 people and an assessor. We chatted for about 30 mins then took the test all with our video still on. You still have to go to an assessment centre at a later stage.

PubliusNaso 24th March 2023 04:37


Originally Posted by ImGonnaMakeIt (Post 11407605)
Anyone has an idea how big the intake cohorts usually are?

About a dozen, but it's not a competitive* top 12; if you're good enough you'll get through, and either be offered a place on a course or be put on reserve for the one after that.

*At least, that's what they say. I don't have inside knowledge or anything.

shellystats 24th March 2023 22:13

I've been through the testing, for anyone looking for specfic tips on the psychometric testing. PM me. They're pretty tough for most people sight unseen with or without study...

Amelie123 26th March 2023 14:05

Reply
 

Originally Posted by shellystats (Post 11408282)
I've been through the testing, for anyone looking for specfic tips on the psychometric testing. PM me. They're pretty tough for most people sight unseen with or without study...

heya,

I’ve just submitted my stage 2 testing, and have been reading a lot about the assessment day. I would really love to practice some stuff but not sure what to do!

as well, does anyone have anymore insight on how the process works? With the teams call do I get tested with someone on call, and what are they testing?? Thanks guys :)

Thelamprun 27th March 2023 04:12


Originally Posted by Amelie123 (Post 11409184)
heya,

I’ve just submitted my stage 2 testing, and have been reading a lot about the assessment day. I would really love to practice some stuff but not sure what to do!

as well, does anyone have anymore insight on how the process works? With the teams call do I get tested with someone on call, and what are they testing?? Thanks guys :)

​​​​​​The Teams call for the interrupt test is basically just to verify that you are the one taking the test. It's pretty similar to the radar sim with the dots and numbers that you would've done in stage 2 just with a couple extra steps involved. As for the assessment centre my understanding is that it involves 3 main sections. A face to face interview, a group activity, and another radar sim test of some sort along the lines of the interrupt test.

The only other thing I can suggest is to get familiar with what an aircraft data block looks like on a radar screen and how to read the altitude and direction correctly. Other than that I found the interrupt test to be the easiest for me even though it was more complicated than the previous stages, it all clicked together and I probably scored the highest out of all my exams on it.

chrislexington 29th March 2023 03:04

So I completed my round 2 testing yesterday (28th of Mar 2023) and honestly only found the true/false aircraft direction one difficult. How long does it take to hear back about the next step, or the unsuccessful letter. Can not stop checking my emails so would be good to know when to look at them. Thanks guys!

PPRuNeUser0175 29th March 2023 22:46


Originally Posted by chrislexington (Post 11410639)
So I completed my round 2 testing yesterday (28th of Mar 2023) and honestly only found the true/false aircraft direction one difficult. How long does it take to hear back about the next step, or the unsuccessful letter. Can not stop checking my emails so would be good to know when to look at them. Thanks guys!

For me it was relatively quick. The longest I had to wait for any of the stages was one week after the due date. The only exception is the recorded interview which I did last week.

Bruce Kent 30th March 2023 03:22


Originally Posted by chrislexington (Post 11410639)
So I completed my round 2 testing yesterday (28th of Mar 2023) and honestly only found the true/false aircraft direction one difficult. How long does it take to hear back about the next step, or the unsuccessful letter. Can not stop checking my emails so would be good to know when to look at them. Thanks guys!

I got the invite for the interrupt test this morning. I have the option of two time slots on Monday 3rd. I haven't chosen which one yet. Maybe I'll see you in one of them?

The invite arrived pretty quick. So far this process is progressing faster than I was expecting considering what else I've read in this thread. I panic bought a webcam online for the test. Hopefully it arrives in time.

ImGonnaMakeIt 30th March 2023 03:23

I received an email today saying I've progressed to the interrupt test! I am so nervous and excited now and didn't think I'd make it this far!

Bruce Kent 3rd April 2023 08:22

Sat the interrupt test today. It wasn't as scary as I thought and got the Pass result less than 20 mins after the session. Online (recorded) interview invite came through soon after. I was already setup so went straight into it and completed the interview. I'm expecting the pace of the application process to slow down a bit now. Happy to get through the tests! Who else got through from today's sessions?

ImGonnaMakeIt 3rd April 2023 08:56


Originally Posted by Bruce Kent (Post 11413846)
Sat the interrupt test today. It wasn't as scary as I thought and got the Pass result less than 20 mins after the session. Online (recorded) interview invite came through soon after. I was already setup so went straight into it and completed the interview. I'm expecting the pace of the application process to slow down a bit now. Happy to get through the tests! Who else got through from today's sessions?

I have mine booked next week. Would you say it's easier or tougher than radar test?

Bruce Kent 3rd April 2023 09:07

It might be different for different people but for me it was definitely easier than the radar sim test from round two. It feels far less chaotic. It would be very difficult to 100% the test, I made two errors that I noticed and there were probably more that I didn't notice but overall I felt confident with how it went. In contrast I was not confident after the radar sim test.


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