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Good to know, I might give it a go then, but when I asked them they said the new policy applied for everyone regardless the date you last applied... Bit confusing.
Good luck anyway! |
hey guys, has anyone heard anything yet about stage two assessment date??
Gonçalo |
Hi guys. I'm starting my application for ATCO training tonight and I'm a little confused as I can't find the application form!
Im on a page which has options to fill in your work experience and education so I've done this and added a cover letter. I also have the option of adding a CV. If this is what I'm supposed to do then that's fine, but I was expecting something a little different. I'm assuming every applicant at least gets the chance to take the initial online assessments so I was under the impression that things like CVs and cover letters wouldn't be necessary, and I would just have to fill in an online form to make sure I meet the requirements. This is what I can see when i log into the careers section: http://i.imgur.com/6XVLIoa.png?1 Of course I'm probably completely wrong about this and just overthinking it, but I just want to be sure that I'm doing this right! Thanks Joe |
Hi no I haven't heard anything re stage two am still waiting :(
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Joe,
If you search listings and click on trainee air traffic control it will take you to the right page. From there you fill in your CV on the Nats forms. You cannot email one you have compiled already. It takes a littlectime but it is the only way they will accept your application. Good luck, Jof |
Ah, thanks Jof. For some reason I assumed that section was for specific job vacancies.
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Hey guys, I too joined the long aching wait to Stage 2. I'll post here if I get any news/invite. Till then, good luck to you all!
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Rookie here... :)
Alright, new one here joining in this conversation.
Just did my Stage 0 online test, waiting to find out how it went. Worst for me was the verbal, ended up in trouble with the time allowed and just guessed the last one before time ended. Numerical and error was able to finish them all, am quite confident especially with the error checking. Any ideas what's the passing limit with these updated tests?? Hopefully we'll get a proper conversation going in here with these new and updated tests...what in what Stage now compared to the old ones. Not looking for the answers though, don't get me wrong, just wanting to hear how people have experienced those tests. Good luck all of you, anyone here who's currently in college?? Would love to hear from your experiences? :) EDIT: Took off the question about how long it takes to get the info after Stage 0...for me it took roughly 1 hour. :) And I'm through to Stage 1, yaayy. Now of to do some prep for those diagrammatical and spatial reasoning ones which will be next in line. |
Still waiting for the assessment date that was due in september! I was so psyched up through-out september but so long has passed I'm kind of deflated now. :sad:
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Stage 2
Apparently they haven't scheduled any Stage 2 dates in a while. I'm also joining in to wait for the dates. I don't even wanna think about how many people are now "lining up"...
All we can do is wait... |
Just adding my 2 pence worth. Also in the same boat as most as i have completed both stage 0 and 1 online assessments some time ago now. What do people think the chances are that there aren't currently enough of us on the waiting list for the assessment days? And before I get boo'd out of the forum my thinking is this - they have recently changed the re-application time from 12 to 24 months so all those who thought they could try again, and obviously capable of getting over the first 2 hurdles, aren't in the pool. Don't know but it would be interesting to know what percentage of applicants have had more than 1 try previously, and looking at the ATC application process PDF normally about 1700 go for stage 2 assessments. Seems a lot.
Still, suppose it gives us ages to prep for it. J |
I suspect it's more to do with company need.
The EU are forcing cost cutting, there is a surplus of current ATCOs, some contracts are due for renewed and may be under threat and the head count at the college is being scaled back. Not to mention the recent VR programme across the regulated side of the company. |
True.
I remember reading somewhere that with current cuts and ATC turnover they probably wouldn't need any validated ATCs untill 2017. Meaning early to mid 2014 to start training, which doesn't seem remotely likely right now. I'm sure that when it does happen though it will be a case of blink and you miss it. |
Hey there,
I sent an email back in September asking about the dates of stage 2, and the answer i get was this : "Hi Goncalo Thank you for your email We are currently not holding any Stage 2 Assessment centres until September 2014. Once we are in a position to release new dates we will send an invitation to all candidates currently waiting to take the assessment. Kind regards Kirsty NATS" So it means that we are going to wait a while longer... |
Well, I guess, see you in 10 month then, at best..
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So, I applied for the position of TATC yesterday, and received an email with a link for the 1st of 2 online assessments, and completed it this morning. Does anyone know how long it will be before the 2nd online assessment link comes through? Or is it a case of, it should be immediate, so you haven't got through?
Thank you And, September '14? That seems like a hellishly long wait for just an assessment, does it not? Thank you T |
I received my e-mail today inviting me to a Stage 2 Assessment. Gives details about the format of the day, and a link to book a date. All the dates are in January, starting a week from today (7th). About 7 dates in total I think. Comes with a 24 page document that needs to be revised (They stress this a lot). Hope other people have got an e-mail!
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I too received an email this morning.
I start a new job on Monday so can't make any of the dates. I will have to wit until they release more. |
This is very good news people.
@eye - Are there dates only in January? What happens if you can't make it at the available dates? Anyone knows? |
Hello everyone
Yesterday I've done my Stage 1 assessment and today I've received an email with invitation to attend the stage 2 Computer Tests. In fact, I won't attend this stage because I've already passed FEAST and DART last year, so hopely see you soon in stage 3! Like the preeceding speaker I hope other people already has got an assessment date :) |
Ecstatic that I just got my invite to the stage 2 test. For everyone still in limbo, best of luck and I hope you get your invites soon :ok:
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mangoPL
Have they confirmed that you definitely won't need to attend Stage 2? Have they not moved the motivation paper to this stage of the process? You may have done FEAST and DART but I think there are other parts now in Stage 2 that aren't covered by these tests.
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@mango - You are going to see stage 2 again for the paper test, but you will skip Dart I guess.
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I booked myself in for stage two 31st January , hotel booked for night before anyone else on jan 31st? :) :ooh:
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@Kimmikins and Dottiehottie - in received mail there was written: "we can request access to your test results from PANSA and then re-mark them against the NATS score criteria".
I suppose it means that if my results are good enough I will skip stage 2 and attend stage 3. Of course I'm not 100% sure, but I'll find it out soon :) |
I think I'll be booking in for the 31st as well, and getting a room in a Premier Inn nearby :) it's a 4 hour drive from the North-West for me! Looking through the document they gave us, feels like I'm back in my degree trying to cram everything.
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Seems popular, I booked for the 31st too! Haven't decided where to stay yet, or train or drive...its 3.5 hours :(
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I am going from Morecambe and booked into the 30th night at the premiere inn too!!!! Will be swatting up all night for the 31st !!!
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@mangoPL - I went through over a year ago, and they've changed the process since then, so I don't know where they've put the Motivation Paper now (it used to be Stage 1). That others are saying they have material to revise does seem to indicate that it's now in Stage 2, so I wouldn't be surprised if they come back to you to say that you won't have to do the FEAST and DART aspects, but you may have to attend Stage 2 for the motivation paper.
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@Kimmikins - I see your point. In received e-mail there is also information that "As you have completed your assessment in September/October 2013, it would not be possible to attend a NATS Stage 2 assessment centre at this time.".
But then there is "In order to progress your application further, if you complete the attached consent forms, we can request access to your test results from PANSA and then re-mark them against the NATS score criteria.". I am not sure what does it mean, but I suppose if they request access to my test results - it's possible for me to go ahead. But we'll simply see what's going to happen about that :D |
@mango . That is 100% correct. FEAST and DART results are saved only on EUROCONTROL servers and in order for NATS to access them, you need to sign a disclosure form; but remember, success standards are specific for each ANSP. So pray that Poland has the same standards as NATS, or that your results are within NATS standards.
@edit mistype |
Yeah, I know it all :)
In fact, I don't really attach importance to this recruitment process, I just thought 'why not?' and apllied. I was simply surprised that the day after passing stage 1 I received e-mail with congratulations etc :) Good luck to everyone who's going to take feast and dart in January. It's really tough to pass them both, but with a cool head it could be done :) |
Hey guys,
I just confirmed myself in for stage two 7th Feb. Someone else is going in this day?? |
I'm going on 23/1/2014. I booked it 2 days ago but for some reason I was unable to choose a later date... :uhoh:
Anyway, good luck to everyone else who's going. :) |
Hi All,
To anyone who's recently applied online. I'm just filling in the application form but it's not exactly the most user friendly application I've ever completed. In the Work Experience section I'm not clear on whether they're wanting a comprehensive list of all my previous jobs or just my most relevant experience. Will they ask for a copy of my CV later on which has my employment history on it? Does anyone have any advice on what they did? |
Stage 2 14th January
Hi there,
Anybody else going to the Stage 2 tests on the 14th? Forking out £140 just through travel and accomodation alone haha Pretty much constant swotting up til then.. |
I have my stage 2 assessments on the 23rd January! I can't wait! But until then my days all consist of studying the 30 page bookletwe have been given.
Anyone else heading up on the same day? |
7th Feb
@AkwGon hi, congrats on securing a date, I too have booked myself in for the 7th Feb..... and a nice 6+ hour drive from Newcastle.
Hopefully it will all be worth it :) Have you applied for NATS before? |
Anyone going down on the 30th and staying in the premiere inn before the test on the 31st? I am travelling down from the north west a nice five hr drive!
Congrats to everyone who has got through and look forward to hopefully meeting some of you on the day. Emily |
Got my tests at the end of the month to.
Anyone know where to find info not included in the document sent to us by NATS. I've read through this about a million times and want to know where else I can find relative stuff as there is so much rubbish out there to sieve through. |
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