Gutted for you hatemyjob! :(

Really sorry to hear.

Hi Hatemyjob,

I am so sorry to hear that.

xxx

NATS - no new applicants
 

NATS have stated that they are now not accepting any new applicants from after 1st April 2011 and although I applied in February, I've got a bit of an issue now.

Although I applied in Februrary, I completed the online test and then said that I was unable to sit the Stage 1 test until July at the earliest due to final year University commitments and they told me they'd put my applicant on hold and was to contact them when ready to continue.

All Stage 1 tests up to May/June have gone now and I'm not sure if any new bookings will be available in July onwards? Could anyone shed light on the situation?

I'd contact HR Jack....but my guess is your going to have to wait till they start doing stage 1 again....:s

@gazb2 thanks, I did send an email earlier before I posted my problem so hopefully a reply tomorrow. If so I will probably look at alternative routes although it has always been my dream to work at MAN. :uhoh:

@DelayReducer I understand that you have no say in where you are appointed, I think I came across wrong, I mean that in the end I'd love to work at MAN, likelihood of being sent there straight away is pretty much zero.

NATS replied this morning saying that even though all test dates for Stage 1 are booked up to June, I should check incase someone cancels their appointment. This doesn't confirm that new stage dates will be set for July onwards :uhoh:

If this is the case I am likely to think about going through a private company or any other suitable career method.

Personally I don't think going the private route is worthwhile, your far better off waiting til recruitment starts and doing that. If EGCC is your dream then the private route will give you slim to not change of getting there as NATS likes their contollers to be NATS trained so they know they are getting the best. The only way of going to MAN then is to work at a non-NATS airfield and hope NATS get the contract for it and request a transfer. From what I hear though the jobs for non-NATS airports are hard to come by and it's often ex-NATS who get the jobs as their training is of a better standard.

I'm not trying to put you off going that route, but make sure you do a bit of research and go visit many units and find out where they prefer to recruit from (non-NATS units) I'm guessing liverpool will be the closest for that and they are pretty good!

@lemony thanks. I knew that would be one of the main disadvantages of going private - not working at MAN realistically. I have visited Liverpool Control Tower before for the day, spent most of it talking to those in the control tower and downstairs. They said most of them had trained privately through the airport. I shall definitely try and get in contact with them again.

It's just quite a wait now knowing that it is unlikely they are going to start recruiting again until next year at the earliest but we shall see.

It all depends on how you look at it though. I know it's easy for me to say (who is already in the system going to stage 3) but if you compare 6 months to all the years you could be working for NATS, it's really just a drop in the ocean. I know it's terrible to wait (just wait until you're waiting for your stage 1 result!) but looking at the bigger picture it might be worth it.

The best of luck regardless of your decision though :)

@Crazy Voyager: I echo what you say about stage 1 wait - currently wiating it out myself. How long was your wait? full 15 days??

Hi all.

I am wondering if there are any websites that let you take a practise FEAST test for stage 2?

Thanks and good luck to everyone

Nate

Right, Stage 3 tomorrow for me. Anyone know what time we should finish?

@freebird
My stage 1 took 15 days but it has varied a lot according to various ppruners. I think you can just hope for the best really, how long has it been now?

kwagga,
you should finish when, and only when, you have convinced your interviewing board that you are the candidate that they want.

hatemyjob,
so sorry to hear your news, especially as I believe it is your second time at this.
Hope you are going to give it another shot next time. Certainly get some feedback from NATS HR.

Should be done by lunch then.

kwagga,
8am start then, or a late lunch?
Best wishes whatever.

Good luck Kwagga!

All the best for tomorrow and let us know how it goes.

@ Crazy voyager / Tim91

I did stage 1 on 08.04.2011 (pm session) so nearly two weeks today. Well within the 15 days but now beyond ready to know, whatever the outcome.

Quite likely we will hear today - I'm sure that someone, who had had their stage 1 on the 15th, posted earlier this week that they were told they would hear by Friday. My guess is that they are waitng to announce all four stage 1 slots (8th and 15th, AM /PM) together

Don't hold me to it! :O

Hi all, just a quick question.
i'm really struggling with the maths side of this, as it is not my strong point, my stage 1 is end of june, and I was just wondering what is the best way to do large multiplication in your head and large division in your head, as i'm struggling with the s/d/t

Sat my Stage 1 on 8th (am) and got my result today.
Hope there's good news for my fellow stage 1ers.:ok:

Edit: @MrBlue92
IMHO you don't really need to multiply or divide any really big numbers. Anything over 3 digits usually ends in a stream of zeros so it can be simplified easily.
I spent weeks learning the Trachtenberg System so I could multiply or divide numbers from hundreds to the thousands of millions but it was a wasted effort. All you need is to practice the S/D/T questions online and you'll get used to the patterns
Good luck.

same as me, personality questionaire -> done ;)

Well done April 8th stage 1 people, has anyone from the 15th April tests got their results back yet?

I've got to the point where I can't take my phone out with me as I check it for emails every couple of minutes! :eek:

@MrBlue92.

As has been said the best way to get to grips with s/d/t questions is to keep practicing at them.

Do a search for s/d/t for dummies and there is a forum somewhere with a massive thread that explains s/d/t in terms of how to do it in your head. Don't forget that at NATS stage 1, you do get to use paper. If you aren't feeling confident with your maths practice doing it as quickly as possible on paper. Then start doing the more simple ones in your head etc until it almost becomes second nature. Honestly it does get easier with practice, I was pants at s/d/t this time two months ago and managed to get past the 1st two stages of stage 1 last Friday.

If you haven't seen it mentioned in this thread do a search for OASC aswell it is a great site for practicing.

If you want any help with it, PM me and I will try my best.


@Pinkwingo.

Nope no news here from the 15th. At least we can stop checking emails until next tuesday! lol

Not sure if there's any restrictions on selling on here but mainly looking to help and off-load unwanted books.....

I have dropped off the trainee ATCO program :( and have 4 books someone on here might want for a nominal fee (P&P plus a little extra);

Air pilot's manual: Aviation Law and Meterology (good for law)
From the flight deck: plane talk and sky science (Air canada pilot talks through a flight beginning to end)
Pocket guide to commercial aircrafty (good for a/c recog)
Air cops (American ex-ATCO talks about his career)

Comibined RRP about £50 so could save yourself a fair bit. PM me.

Cheers

Hi there....wondering if anyone is going to do Stage 2 on the 3rd of May in Fareham ?

No but mine is on the 4th May!

And mine is on the 6th May!

still waiting
 

April 8th here

Still waiting!!!

will they tell us if we fail as well??

hey,

I did stage 1 on the 8th of April and already did the online personality questionnaire and scheaduled Stage 2 for the 3rd of June in Fareham.

Good luck for you*

Another 8th April here!

Never waited this long before last time... :(

@etsak
They will send you a mail saying either that you passed or failed. So yes they will.

well no e-mails yet so... we hope for the best and plan for the worst!

thanks:8

@gazb2
I'll be seeing you next week (3rd of May).
So that you can recognise me I will be the one wearing a dress and I'll duct tape fireworks to my hands. :}
If that doesn't impress them then I might have to try harder.

@thosewhowerethereonthe8thofApril
I'm like roitos above. Got my reply last Thursday, done the personality questionnaire and booked my stage 2.
Haven't seen anyone from the 15th talking about getting their results so I wouldn't worry yet.
Hope everyone gets a favourable response. Good luck.

April 8th (pm) Failed:ugh:

Well next time if it will be next time???

but i know that i did well in the cube and reasoning!

must have been the overall score i didnt do very well at the numeracy,

even tho i passed first phase of the day... anyway:(

@etsak
You can always try and call HR and politely ask if they can have a quick look at your results and give a hint where you went wrong. Some people have managed to get some feedback this way, it's nothing to count on though but it might be worth a try.

Thanks crazy V

i know that in the atc questions i did well

i know that in the numeracy was so so, i didnt complete the 5 last q's
and i had some mistakes cos i checked afterwards,

but reasoning and cubes, i know i did well cos its my favourite, plus in the cubes i answered all 40 but of cource i dont expect them to be all correct.

others were better than me obviously:}

anyway ive already send them an e-mail will see:ouch:

Sorry to hear that etsak mate, hopefully they will let you know where you went wrong, just wondering, the ATC test is first right? hope so because i'm like you I think, struggle on the numercy (s/d/t). But good luck if you apply again :)