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CYAFAA 31st May 2013 22:09

AIS Manager
 
Chipmunk60

The Serco lifers bleed Serco blood. The rest play the game.

If you have any AIS experience you will be way ahead of the guy that played that role for he last 2 1/2 years. Be prepared to start all over from day one. The incumbent didn't accomplish a darn thing during his tenure. He will go down in history as the biggest scam Serco pulled during their first contract.

Good luck!

PS - be prepared to act as the Serco HR guy on site when HE takes holidays or stress leave. That was the only role the previous AIS guy excelled in. Actually, he did a much better job.

Chilli Monster 1st Jun 2013 15:50

Ahhh - the Whining Turk who didn't like it when you pointed out he wasn't doing his job properly, couldn't do what you asked when you explained it in words of one syllable, and was very quick to go crying to management when he thought his "Professionalism" was being called into question. Appeared to be a national trait!

Another glowing example of the Baghdad "Appearance is everything, competence comes a poor second".

CYAFAA 2nd Jun 2013 11:34

Appearance is everything ........
 
You wouldn't be referring to a particular blonde??

Chipmunk60 3rd Jun 2013 19:09

AIS Manager
 
I have no problems with my AIS skills, I've been working in AIS almost 25 years.

Chipmunk60 3rd Jun 2013 20:29

SERCO
 
I asked Serco to be in Baghdad only in mid September, but Julie Smith (Dubai) told me that they need a person to be there sooner. So I think I'm out.

Out The Gap 23rd Jun 2013 16:45

ATCO advertisement
 
Hey all,

I see there's a new ad on the Serco website again for ATCOs, preferably with OJTI ratings...or is it exclusively for those with OJTI ratings??

I take it that Serco has won the contract again then..? For how many years?
What's the deal, are the salary/conditions/roster still the same?
Are the vacancies for TWR, APP or ACC.. or all three?
Have you guys finally got your swimming pool and basketball court yet? :cool:
Which Hilton Baghdad youtube video is where you are all residing now?
And has your overall work atmosphere, comradery and opinion of Serco improved or continued to deteriorate, as this whole thread would appear to suggest?

Thanks in advance for providing all the facts... and your opinions :ok:

CYAFAA 30th Jun 2013 01:06

Re: ATCO advertisement
 
The contract has not been finalized. Morale is at an all time low. If you're concerned about OJTI or other qualifications, try photoshop. It's been used many times by others that have applied and been hired there as ATCO'S, supervisors and managers.

Chilli Monster 30th Jun 2013 14:53

Don't forget "Marriage Certificates" and Medicals :)

CYAFAA 30th Jun 2013 16:19

No Way!
 
Next you're going to tell me even after management knew someone lied on their job app, they were promoted and even received the coveted Pulse award. That would mean Serco Foundation Stone Number One is just lip service. No, no, it can't be!

Chilli Monster 30th Jun 2013 19:05

That'll be the Pulse Award for the so called "Coffee Shop" - "To improve morale".

I never saw a cup from it!

CYAFAA 30th Jun 2013 20:22

No, but the old, middle and soon to be new, Bosses have.

hotspot1 13th Jun 2014 08:59

security threat at baghdad airport
 
to all in ORBI,

whats the story with the deteriorating security situation at the airport? I see the ISIS forces closing in from the north and west and the Iraqi army throwing in towel and running away, and you guys are stuck out there on the western side of the city. Goodluck with that.
I hope the company has an escape plan for you guys should it get ugly. I would want to be living in approach cell for a while.
Last time something like this came up in Iran many moons ago, the company wanted everyone at their posts. In the end some guys had to make a run for it overland to southern Tehran and cross the Persian gulf by boat.
When they fronted management in AUH they were told they had to go back as they were still on contract.
I am sure we all know what the answer to that one would have been.
Stay safe gents and have a get out of jail plan ready just in case.

Satellite Man 21st Jun 2014 15:38

Where in Europe can you earn 250k pa right now? I'll jump for it ! :-)

Kattar Kid 22nd Jun 2014 14:48

waaaat?
 

Where in Europe can you earn 250k pa right now? I'll jump for it ! :-)
Wow!! Do you have even TV or newspapers in your country?:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Satellite Man 22nd Jun 2014 17:14

The ironic mode is much appreciated, but... do you mean is it a very high or a very low salary? Could you enlighten us with some newspaper info?

Kattar Kid 22nd Jun 2014 18:37

You asked for it.
 
BBC News - Iraq crisis: Rutba latest western town to fall to Isis
Four western Iraqi towns fall to ISIS militants - CNN.com
Troops Surrounded, Trapped in Iraq's Key Refinery, Sources Tell ABC News - ABC News
ISIS In Iraq Claims Massacre of 1700 Soldiers - TIME

I think that it will be a good idea for you to read maybe one or two of these links.
The money is good. It is what you may have to face up to that is bad:sad:

Satellite Man 22nd Jun 2014 20:35

Kattar Kid, I didn't mean that but my original question:

"Where in Europe can you earn 250k pa right now?"

PMS 22nd Jun 2014 23:19

any increase in resignations
 
I am curious if due to the increased security concerns, has this led to some there, to reassess their situation and pull up stumps??

Is there an evacuation plan in place for staff in case of worst case scenario?

Captain Charisma 23rd Jun 2014 09:09

Check your facts first... you don't earn 250k in Baghdad!

Yes there is an evacuation plan... looks good on paper!

clipped_wings 23rd Jun 2014 09:52

Fingers crossed the evacuation plan won't be needed.

The Tehran evacuation plan was to give the families sub load tickets on British Airways when all flights were booked out. Lucky a BA skipper took heart and they all got out on sitting on the floor.

Hopefully they are better organised these days.

Vercingetorix 23rd Jun 2014 23:14

clipped wings.

Classic.

:ok:

Hempy 25th Jun 2014 09:43

-$US 1 million/p.a.
-free everything
-personal security detail
-uzi + 5 magazines + ammunition
-bullet-proof vest
-accommodation inside the (protected) aerodrome precinct

No...still wouldn't be enough tbh

Good luck and godspeed to any expats still working there, I hope you gtfo asap if any crap comes down.

hotspot1 26th Jun 2014 09:48

how many have bailed in the last week
 
if we can get back to the question which was raised a few posts ago by PMS,

has this hastened the number of controllers there pulling up stumps? surely those on the ground there are would be aware.

I see that another advert by Serco for controllers in ORBI has appeared so I guess that probably gives another clue.

Radar Muscle 27th Jun 2016 12:14

I see they are recruiting again. Anyone got info on current terms, application process etc?

Shorus 24th Jul 2016 08:43

Hi folks,

Same question as above, I see SERCO have again renewed their ad on flightglobal. Anyone have info on the current ToC, roster, anything... ?

Captain Charisma 29th Jul 2016 17:28

I never understand the reason people ask this forum for employment details which may or may not be correct. If interested why not make contact with Serco and ask them? Alternatively apply and see what happens and make a decision from there.

Farrell 25th Aug 2016 17:55

"I never understand the reason people ask this forum for employment details which may or may not be correct."

Yup. A PM to those who are there will answer most questions.
Anyone I know who has been there had a good time. Have another friend who started a few months ago and is as happy as Larry.

Farrell

ATC alert 26th Aug 2016 16:31

They are always advertising!
 
There are a number of very apparent reasons SERCO and Baghdad are always advertising!

SERCO's market share of ANS continues to shrink in the Middle East despite all efforts they make to hold onto what they've had.

They have an extremely troubling management/human resources problem within SERCO. The number of front line and HQ managers that have come and gone within SERCO is the past 5 years speaks to the internal troubles of the company.

The woman running the HR in Dubai for ATCO's in SERCO ME has no clue about proper recruiting and hiring practises and until she is gone they will continue to be advertising for applicants.

The Baghdad Contract in particular doesn't compensate enough for the increased risks associated with this location and instead relies on those whose last resort it is to apply for this posting. There isn't enough time off so that you can travel out of the base for R&R between cycles.

My suggestion is wait until another ANS provider is granted the contract for Baghdad and operates it in an entirely different way.


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