Can anyone tell me about traffic density and capacity at Shannon ACC, number of sectors they have and how many controllers are operating in each shift?
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Ocean Wun Zero,
Dublin Approach Radar service is carried out in the 'Dublin Control Centre', as is Shannon Apprach Radar and sometime in the future Cork Approach Radar will be there too. Traditionally controllers were multi-rated in Tower, Approach and Ground. There was a move away from this in recent years, however due to staffing shortages, the flexibility of multiple ratings is necessary to run the place. So it is possible to have a single rating, as some do, but you could expect to be given more than one - time and training resources allowing. |
In respone to expATCO
expATCO,in response to your query:
Traffic density varies dependant on both The North Atlantic Track Structure on any given day and the time of the week ie from approx Thursday to Sunday inclusive,theres a significant amount of charter traffic that predominantly flies in a North/South direction and visa versa. As yet we do not have any usable sector capacities in operaton.A Sector Capacity study has begun and its results should be known by November of this year. The number of sectors varies from day to day but a general rule of thumb would be approx. 6 secors for the night time Eastbound flow and betwen 6-9 sectors for the daytime Westbound flow. The roster has already been discussed and explained on this thread and on average there are 13 operational ATCO's attatched to each team.This number would be exclusive of those on Annual Leave(For those fortunate enough to get it.) |
Dublin Approach Radar service is carried out in the 'Dublin Control Centre', as is Shannon Apprach Radar and sometime in the future Cork Approach Radar will be there too. 2. Which APP unit has the most beer quaffing Rugby afficionados that make regular trips (BIG day out type events) to Lansdowne Road and think Donal Lenihan is a cultural icon? 3. How many Euros can the said App controller expect (before and after tax) as a full time employee (not on contract)? |
And How many days of Annual Leave do you have?
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31 days, rising to 34 when you reach point 10 on the pay scale.
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Track Coastal/expATCO
1) Dublin: APP is done in the Dublin ACC for EIDW and EINN. (EICK has its own APP unit at the moment, but that's planned to go to DUB ACC) 2) No clear winner: Not sure about "Donal Lenihan" and "cultural icon". There is no mass "ATC Supporters club", but ATCOs from all stations like to attend and/or drink beer! 3)Ballpark figures 5 years experience = 70k gross, +/- 45k nett 10 years = 80-85k gross, +/- 52k-58k nett 15 years+ = 95k-105k gross, +/- 60k-70k nett anyone with more accurate info, feel free to jump in Annual Leave: see Robot 1 above. There are 12 public holidays throughout the year. One may opt to add these days to Leave compliment, or receive a premium (2 times hourly rate) on top of normal days pay, if you work them If you are given a permanent contract, then that's exactly what it is (according to union/management agreement). You'd be just like the rest of us in terms of job security. Hope that helps, fire away with any other questions. Good luck |
Wot he said^ ..in a nutshell
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Is there any vacancy at dublin also ?:cool:
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Yes plenty!!!!!!
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anyone with more accurate info, feel free to jump in :E |
please be serious. otherwise I would think that you work in oil industry earning millions and I will resign immediately from my current position :ugh: and make harakiri
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Well it came from a very reliable source so it must be true! :}
To be serious, beamwidth's figures are more accurate although they looked slightly on the high side to me, maybe by about 5000 or so. There are definitely vacancies in Dublin. Many retirements over the next 5 years. All ratings required, the current shortage is Area, but if Dub mgmt are smart they won't wait to start a big Area course - they'll get a few people rated in ground/tower first. |
So who can tell the exact figure???? With five years of experience how much would I earn? At the preliminary interview they told me approx. 75000euro per annum (including shift allowances, holiday hours etc.). How much would it be after taxes, health insurance, social insurance? What are tha rates of these?
Do they pay any additional allowances when one is married and has a child or in other cases? |
2 left bass
As I understand ATCOs and airlines are enemies in Ireland? :eek: why is that? Do they earn less or think that their work is more important? |
Do they pay any additional allowances when one is married and has a child or in other cases? But you get an extra increment after 2 years if you sign up to be an Expert i.e. to do projects/OJTI/instructor and co-ordinate. |
ock1f
Approx how many App controllers short are you? Other than retirements are you bleeding controllers to other ANSPs as well (eg NATS, Serco Dubai etc)?
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Whats the cost of living in Dublin, rent/bond, car payments, electricity, water, insurance, groceries, etc?
Can any one own property? Do you have any discounts with airlines? |
ATC1972
Don't you know that airlines are enemies?:E |
So, they still need to be cleared to land.:)
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