well done Jochi- its a lovely feeling isn't it

although i'll be totally happy once i have passed the medical- its worrying me at the moment!

Got a no for stage 2, ah well.
University it is then!

hey pugwash! still awaiting medical results? I've been away busy for weeks and seem to remember you mentioning you were having your medicals a while ago. How long has it taken them so far?

Interview Dates
 

Hi,

I've recently recieved the S1 dates e-mail but I can't attend any of the dates for specific reasons.

I declined the invitation and got an e-mail back from them stating if I wish to re-consider I should go back onto the date selection link and book.

I was wondering, do new dates become available after a while or do I now have to wait and re-apply next year?

Thanks

Hey all,

Haven't read the last 30 pages or so as been a bit busy...

I have a 9th edition of Graham Duke's book if anyone wants to make me a reasonable offer (PM please). I have no idea how much these go for.


Good luck to all of you applying or that have passed stage 3. This is my second week at the college, I am doing area and let me tell you..... It is bloody hard work, but if it's what you want to do and you're prepared to put the work in then good luck. For anyone that thinks they might not be able to put the time in then i'll say don't bother, i'm married and my wife works shifts, I have come to the realisation that i'll not get to see her, infact i'll not be doing anything but studying for the next 9 months! But hey - it's a awesome job at the end!

I'll say it again, good luck to all still applying and congrats to those that have passed stage 3!

PDF

Online Application
 

Hi guys,

I'm about to reapply again after failing at Stage 3 last year but the entire layout of the application seems to have changed. I was going to fill it in slowly but it doesn't look like I can save information anymore.

Am I missing something obvious or does it have to be completed in one sitting?

I think it does yes...However maybe you could do the questions as well as write them down, the canx your app then re appy?
Dont take this as true though as id hate you to not be able to apply for a year.

I just did my online test, the one prior to the stage one intervew. Does anybdy know how important it is as my mouse froze halfway through:uhoh::ugh:

Ive just joined btw so nice to meet you all:ok:

HI
 

Im going for my initial stage 1 this wednesday and am freaking out lol

Does anyone know what happens, and can you debrief me step by step the things they make you do ????

oh yes and do they still do an actual interview ?????

PS: They didnt say anything about D/S*T questions.... Do they sill do them?????

S1 - test durations!
 

Hi everyone

I'm about to sit my S1 tests for the second time on Sept 11th at Prestwick (what a date..) and would just like to confirm a few things before I re-organise all my revision.

To the best of my knowledge, and this forum, as of this month August, the S1 tests go as follows:

1st paper. 30 Multiple choice questions based on the literature NATS provides for you. Unknown time limit, possibly 20 minutes?

2nd paper. Spatial Abillity - Cubes! 20 multiple choice questions. Unknown time limit, possibly 20 minutes?

3rd paper. Abstract Reasoning - Operations. 60 multiple choice questions arranging shapes via instructions. Unknown time limit, possibly 20 minutes?

4th paper. Mental Arithmitic (Maths) - Distance/time/speed questions probably revolving around aircraft movements. Unknown amount of questions, unknown time limit, possibly 20 minutes?

Can anyone fill in the blanks? I've been testing myself rotten over the last fortnight and realise all my numerical/letter checking practice maybe for naught. I even recruited friends and family to "make" tests for me based on templates I created!

Really want to make it this time as this is my last chance due to my age (35)

Cheers

VFFX

I do believe there is no longer an age restriction so it may not be your last chance. Not that it won't go smoothly this time. :ok:

Agreed, I believe there is no upper age limit.

Will anybody be attending Stage 2 in Fareham on Tuesday, 18th August?

VFFX
 

See my post on page 200 of this forum - this details everything at stage 1.

Does anyone know how many questions they will ask you on the aircrafts???????? as i have learnt quite a few of them and have my S1 this wednesday.......
:bored::bored::bored:

anyone got any last minute hints or tips??????
and btw should i wear a suit ??????:cool:


PS do they allow calcualtors for the tests??????

Abz217 I thnk you've just learned the first lesson:O

Always check what you've written .... and more importantly where you've written it.

Can anyone show me how to do the equation for this question please?

Does stage 1 get harder than this?

Hey Guys, I failed my S1 last year and just took it again on monday the 10th of August. I have to say after being very organised this year by revising and not just turning up, I feel fairly confident that I will pass! I understand I haven't passed but sincerely know that I couldn't have improved significantly as I only missed 3 questions on the whole test so FINGERS CROSSED.

ANYWAY...

The tests are as follows:-
1. Motivation Paper, these are the questions relating to the material NATS sent you. I don't remember how many questions, sorry!
2. Spatial Reasoning, these are the cubes. 40 questions 20 minutes.
3. Diagramming, this is the ability to follow instructions in order. 50 questions 20 minutes.
4. Arithmatic, 20 questions, 15 minutes, these consist of a lot of S=D/T questions, if you want my advice if you purely practice that you'll find yourself ina very comfortable position.

After taking the test last year I remember that the pace of the test was very fast so I found myself answering the first half of each set of questions super fast, not double or triple checking but just blasting through them, then easing off and concentrating more as the test progressed.

If I can offer one piece of advice it would be just relax and try not to get fluttered, if a question is hard just move on.

There is no negative marking on the day and it even says in the test booklet, give your BEST answer.
BTW did anyone else take their tests on the 10th>

Abz217. You can find all the offical hints & tips on the NATS site: http://atcocareers.co.uk/pdf/Hints-a...Three-Days.pdf

There is now an official mention of the numerical paper.

On my test there were two aircraft specification questions.

The dress code for the event is smart/casual. I think the idea is so that you blend in with the company dress code policy.

No calculators are allowed. You have to do all the number crunching in your head or on scrap paper.

Good luck.

RByrne,

Q: Aircraft 40 nautical miles away, at 30,000 ft descending at 3000ft per minute and travelling at 240 knots.. can it make it?

A: 3000ft per minute and starting at 30000ft means it will take the aircraft 10 mins to reach the ground. 240 knots = 4 nautical miles per minute (know your 60 time table!). In 10 mins, aircraft will travel 40 nautical miles, so it will make it (but only just!).

Hope that helps a bit...

Ok, this is a fairly straight forward bit of maths dressed up in a scenario.
The easiest way to think about these is to ignor the story and look at the numbers.

There are two key questions, which are:

1/ How long will it take the aircraft to reach the airport?

and

2/ How long before the aircraft hits the ground?

The aircraft is travelling at 240 knts, which is 240 nautical miles per hour. by deviding by 60 (minutes) you get the aircrafts speed per minute in knts. In this case every minute the aircraft will travel 4 miles. So the answer to question 1 is 40 (distance) / 4 (Speed) = Time = 10 minutes

Now for the second question, the aircraft is falling at 3000 feet per minute. This is just another speed/distance/time question dressed up differently. The units have changed (feet per minute rather than miles per hour) but the maths is the same. so you know the speed, you know the distance, so again what you need is the time. So the answer to question 2 is 30000 (distance) / 3000 (speed) = Time = 10 minutes

So to answer the main question, the aircraft will take 10 minutes to cover the 240nm to the airfield, and it will fall out of the sky in 10 minutes, so the answer is they will make it, if only just.

Most question you will get will be like this. The key is not to panic and just see the two simple maths equations rather than one complex one.

Simples.

Oi, my explanation took longer to type than yours!!!!!!