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mdcsplatter 13th Nov 2006 23:44

NATS Airports 3 or 4 points from top of scale fully valid OJTI band 2 £3100 after tax etc

kontrolor 26th Nov 2006 23:57

slovenia: ACC with 10 years of experience - arround 2200 euros. 1 litre of 95 fuel is 1 euro

Lon More 27th Nov 2006 01:49

Flowman
living happily off the pension that you are paying for:}
For what it was, see previous incarnations of this post
Anyway someone else posted Eurocontrol Controllers salaries, what do the flow Managers get given?

flowman 29th Nov 2006 18:24

"What do the flow Managers get given?"

A hard time!

Lon More 29th Nov 2006 20:24

Well it obviously wasn't going to be related to the work they do :}

flowman 30th Nov 2006 14:40

See what I mean! :rolleyes:

I hope you are enjoying your retirement Mr Lonmore. I suspect you are not Moring many Lons at this time of year.:ok:

MACR 30th Nov 2006 15:04

Support for FLOWMAN
 
In most cases, EUROCONTROL is the bearer of bad news - not the instigator. Blame the UK for the DLA's (and, therefore, resultant re-routes for the bucket and spade brigades) due "staffing problems". HRN and LYD sctrs spring to mind here. The French; well, because its a hobby of their's. The Spanish; well, because they're Spanish....

Lon More 30th Nov 2006 15:18

Flowman

Indeed, one is working on next season already although if it remains dry may go for a fast blast round the orchard tomorrow
http://www.webcamshafts.com/images_sm/lawnmower_sm.jpg

Not mine unfortunately - either of them:\




BLMRA

OscarTango 30th Nov 2006 21:23


Originally Posted by kontrolor (Post 2988140)
slovenia: ACC with 10 years of experience - arround 2200 euros. 1 litre of 95 fuel is 1 euro

Ouch !...:eek:

jovica 30th Nov 2006 22:20

Serbia:
When you get RDR rating (you have to be valid in PROC for at least one year and ASS one year before that) pay is between 2600 and 3000 euros, depending on working hours, national holidays, etc. That is some 15 times the average.

OscarTango 30th Nov 2006 22:33

Well, this is humbling:ooh: ...if I check my last paycheck, I'm emberassed to post it here ( so I won't ):\ Okay, we live in a more expensive region of Europe, but still...

But the good thing is I'm actually enjoying what I do to get payed that salary. That's also worth a lot !
:ok:

jangler909 30th Nov 2006 23:12

Monthly figures from Finland:
TWR+APP: ~3000-5000€ (smallest figure at a small airfield with basically no shift allowances and right after graduating)
Additional APS-rating (where possible): add ~350-700€
ACC&EFHK: ~4000-6500€
35-50% goes to taxes etc. Government pays healthcare and education. One liter of 95 costs at the moment about 1,20€ and Big Mac 3,75€.
I get about 4000€ a month after 2 years of experience with TWR+APP -ratings.

zasieki1 12th Feb 2007 13:00

In Poland ADI, APP + OJTI, 7 years expierience at smallest and no busy airport in the country 1300 euro netto. ACC more then double that, but cost of living in Warsaw are much higher. Big Mac 1,80 euro, 1 liter of 95 0,90 euro.

BTW, I have opportunity of working in Ireland. I have been asked what are my salary expectation. Do you have any clue what should I propose?

slatch 12th Feb 2007 14:16

ZOA - Oakland ARTCC - even though its a level 11 (old scale) with 30.34% locality pay has about the highest salaries in the US.

Old Pay Scale - Controllers at the pay cap make $14,000 USD a month base pay plus CIP pay ( 8% of basic pay not counting locality), Night Shift (10%), Sunday Pay (25%), and Training Pay (10%) being added. Controllers with 20 plus years at ZOA are making $190,000 gross before overtime a year. Unfortunitly with the new pay scale no one will reach these levels again for a long time.

New Pay scale is $89,000 to $129,000 for a CPC.

New CPC certifing today makes $7416 a month gross before adding the CIP, night, sunday and training pay.

CIP is being eliminated at 2% a year.

OscarTango 12th Feb 2007 15:51

And how many percent tax do you have to pay in California ?

spike_scramble 12th Feb 2007 18:49

@slatch:

am i eligible to apply as a german citizen at the FAA? AFAIK they're just considering US citizens, right?

cheers spike

slatch 12th Feb 2007 20:17

Federal Tax runs about 25% total on amounts like $190,000, California state tax runs about 7% total. Off course overall tax rate is lower on lower incomes. This is married two kids and a average mortgage which is deductable in the US. LIke I stated there are only a few controllers lucky enough to be at the pay cap. I would guess less than 1000 nationwide. Alot of the current controllers with around 10 years are frozen at aroiund $140,000 base pay. All new controllers will be making much less until NATCA gets back in gear. Yes you have to be a US citizen.

Example:

$190,000 Gross
$42,000 Fed Tax
$12,000 State Tax
$5,600 Solical Security Tax
$2,000 Medicare
$2,000 Retirement Contribution
$2,600 Health Care Contribution
$123,800 Net

Radargod 14th Feb 2007 23:44

Here in sunny, crime ridden South Africa I earn roughly 4100$/3100Euro per month. I have 10 years TWR and 9 years App radar experience. Cost of bond for 3 bedroomed house in middle-class area is 1000$ per month(not deductable)

spike_scramble 15th Feb 2007 11:46

@Radargod:

Are you talking about a gross or net salary? If it's the gross, I'd like to know how much is going for tax, insurance etc.... Thanks in advance.

Cheers Spike.

makeapullup 15th Feb 2007 12:37

hi spike, maybe i can help, as an approach/area controller in Johannesburg with 5 years experience your net is approx 2500euro per month (this includes a station allowance of which Johannesburg has the highest in the country and all overtime and public holiday pay) . Tax is approx 38-40% and medical aid about 200 euro a month(of which the company contributes a % to) . These things are taken from your gross. Insurance and the likes differ from person to person. Obviously the net amount increases as the years of experience do.
hope it helps...:)


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