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Monthly ATCOs salaries in Europe

Old 22nd Oct 2006, 14:05
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Question Monthly ATCOs salaries in Europe

I'd like to know ATCOs salaries around Europe and most of all how salaries are structured considering rating and endorcement.
Here you have the requested info about Italian ATCOs with min and max as new or close to retirement ATCO...please post same info for other countries:

MONTHLY NET SALARY W/O EXTRAS (overtime...)
TWR non RDR 1.900(min)/2.500(max)
TWR RDR/APP 2.200(min)/2.800(max)
ACC RDR/AWY 2.500(min)/3.200(max)

Those are basic salaries, if you consider overtime, bonus and so on at the end you have a TWR non RDR with an annual income of 30.000/37.000 while a ACC RDR/AWY 55.000/70.000.
So the difference between airports and radar centers is very big ...too big .
What about your country?
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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 17:32
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Originally Posted by minimax View Post

So the difference between airports and radar centers is very big ...too big .
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Too big? Depends on what side you look at it from.. Too small I'd say..
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 08:14
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I would say those are fairly low salaries, still waiting for other figures to come in to compare but at todays conversion rates they equate to sterling of....

TWR non RDR 1275/1675
TWR RDR/APP 1475/1890
ACC/AWY 1675/2145

and salaries of

TWR non RDR 20115/24810
ACC/AWY 36900/46950

I assume the salaries are gross figures not net like your monthly figures... otherwise they do not add up!!
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 19:41
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ATC Salary in Ukraine

Hi !
I am an ATC from Ukraine.
And here are our salaries... in a mounth...
TWR non RDR €333(min)/€833(max)
TWR RDR/APP €533(min)/€1100(max)
ACC RDR/AWY €533(min)/€1100(max)
I work in Simferopol ACC and i have approximately 150 - 200 planes in a shift. My sektor is over Black Sea.
As i know that this number is not so much differ , compare with other European ACCs, but salary is REALLY differs from salaries of Europeans ATCos.
TWR and ACC earns the same money, but has really different traffic.
TWR has 15-30 planes in a shift in Simferopol Inernational Airport in the summer and 2-5 in the winter.
Sad but true...
How much planes in a shift do you have, if this is not a secret?
P.S. Sorry for my "[email protected] English
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 20:00
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Belgocontrol:

From the first day of your training period you are entitled to a salary, amounting to 1.600 euros gross/month. When you succeed in the training stage and an operational traineeship your salary will be increased to some 2.900 euros gross/month. When you succeed in obtaining the title of ADR, ACS or APS your salary will be situated between 5.800 and 6.200 gross/month depending on the operational position that you hold.
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 21:03
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higher pay than NATS then... that is suprising....
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Old 25th Oct 2006, 16:58
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Originally Posted by Courtenay View Post
higher pay than NATS then... that is suprising....
before or after income taxes...? what about the cost of life..? and for which number of madatory hours of duty ?
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Old 28th Oct 2006, 22:11
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Cool

Our Center (ACC) averages about 6300 movements a day, we are down from previous years due to a one carrier pulling out of DFW (still third busiest airport in world though for movements.). One of our busiest centers does about 10,000 movements a day.

Our new pay scales, I believe that the busiest facilities CPC (certified professional controller) range from $84,000 - $104,000 a year. Most of the new folks will probably never see the top of the band with the way they are going to do the pay outs...

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Old 29th Oct 2006, 16:29
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I have been working as an ACC-controller in Germany for 3 years now.

The gross monthly payment I got was 6500 Euro.
Plus extra money for working on sundays and holidays and nightduties i received an annual salary of 95500 Euro.
After tax approximately 58000 Euro were left.

From that money I had to pay private health-insurance (400/month), other insurances like e.g. loss-of-licence (150/month) and housing (1000/month) and so on...

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Old 30th Oct 2006, 09:22
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Originally Posted by Courtenay View Post
higher pay than NATS then... that is suprising....
It is surprising because it is not higher pay than nats, at the top of the scale a NATS controller will earn 6500pm gross
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 11:51
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ok ok... I can't do 11 year old maths

Well spotted!

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Old 11th Nov 2006, 08:17
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Originally Posted by A7700 View Post
before or after income taxes...? what about the cost of life..? and for which number of madatory hours of duty ?
That's before income taxes. What appears on your bank account every month is about this:
training: 1000 EUR (minimum)
ATC assistant: 1700 EUR (minimum)
TWR radar: 2900 EUR (minimum)
APP/ACC radar: 3300 EUR (minimum)

Increased with some 100-600 EUR depending on weekend/night shifts...

Working hours: 35/week
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Old 11th Nov 2006, 10:15
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Shouldn't have applied at Belgocontrol then...
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Old 11th Nov 2006, 14:28
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Let's wait untill we see what the controllers in "e-spain" are making, after that, I could post the Eurocontrol salaries...

Their extra duties are paid with a 4 figure number...too bad they won't let any foreigners in, eh
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Old 11th Nov 2006, 17:34
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Eurocontrol salary

Hi there,

in view some counterpart of mine hasn't already taken this matter, allow me:

when you get established as an ATCO you'll start making 5500 net/month. That's a long way from the 1300 you start with as an ab-initio. It gradually goes up as you succeed going up the training ladder. Of course salary doesn't stop there as experience counts and at the end of your "serviceable" life you can expect quite much more -apart of some allowances-. But cost of living in NL is quite high and the area where we live is not the most lively I've seen -if you don't speak dutch/flemish or german forget the social life after work.

Regardings the spanish salaries: be cautious. It is only some places were they're doing the mega-bucks. Some twr's controllers don't see much more than 3K's a month...except when they get the extra pay -they get 14 pays a year-. That said, the conditions of employment are the best I've heard of in a while. But the way of getting in so far...you must hold a university degree and go through a selection process that starts with an exam that changes every year -from computer use to aviation law- and, once you pass that, then you go through psicotechnicals and interviews, medical, etc... to go to a lengthy 15 months course. Earning about 500a month in Madrid. Their high succes rate, some claim, resides in the fact that you definitely need a loan to finish and what awaits for you, if you pass, keeps people in the right track.

My 2 eurocents worth of it anyway.
Saludos,
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Old 11th Nov 2006, 19:04
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Andrijander, one of our our colleagues visited an ex-eurocontrol-abinitio who's working in Barcelona ACC...one figure that stuck in my brain was 1000 euro's per extra duty, with no limits on extra duties.

I'm not sure anymore about the basic salary though...

But all in all, I ( personal opinion here )'m quite happy with what we've got. I have worked a "normal" profession before I started at Eurocontrol, and I'm happy with what I have. Makes me realize how hard I had to work to get far less... some people seem to forget that sometimes, or have never had to work before they joined us. But this is taking us off-topic, I think...

So, eurocontrol's salary is on here now, let's keep the other acc's coming
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Hey,

I was a waiter before...best years of my life (before the stress, the mortgage and the responsibility) just serve two drinks, have one yourself....

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Old 12th Nov 2006, 18:31
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We all know about Spain, NATS and so on, but it would be interesting to hear what the salary in say Athens Area Control is. I heard a rumour its the highest in europe....anyone from Greece want to let us know?
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Old 12th Nov 2006, 23:18
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well, excuse me




sorry, had no idea you only wanted to see twr/app/acc salaries
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