SID Climb Phraseology
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From: Pineapple under the sea
SID Climb Phraseology
I'm sure this has been covered but a search has been fruitless so would someone be kind enough to clarify the letter of the law regarding the differences between climb and climb direct on a SID. I downloaded CAP 413 edition 20 but I can't see a reference...or am I just an idiot?
Thanks.
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From: South Coast and Suffolk
This one again!
Basically, (in the UK) if ATC want you to climb above the SID profile, the phrase "climb now altitude/flight level <insert altitude/flight level>". There was an IN on this subject, not sure if it has yet been incorporated into the MATS Part 1 yet.
Basically, (in the UK) if ATC want you to climb above the SID profile, the phrase "climb now altitude/flight level <insert altitude/flight level>". There was an IN on this subject, not sure if it has yet been incorporated into the MATS Part 1 yet.
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From: Southampton
'Climb unrestricted' is the ICAO standard phraseology so occasionally some overseas crews will question the 'Climb now' UK deviation. Typically late at night, if you hear obviously non-native pilots who are trying hard to give 'proper' RT, it can make things a lot simpler to just use 'Climb unrestricted'.
Neither party wants to waste the other's time asking for further clarification!
Neither party wants to waste the other's time asking for further clarification!
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From: Glen Prosen, Scotland
Reference for the UK difference is AIC Y 023/2010.
An incredibly stupid change to ICAO phraseology which the UK quite rightly recognised as such. Now if they would just do the same with EASA.....
An incredibly stupid change to ICAO phraseology which the UK quite rightly recognised as such. Now if they would just do the same with EASA.....
