Weird, or better said stupid callsigns
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Why do airlines consistently give triple or quadruple alphanumeric callsigns? They may trip off the tongue in the Ops dept. but we are obliged to say 'ABC wun wun wun' not 'ABC triple wun'.
On the plus side, one UK airline of an orange persuasion is pretty quick at changing callsigns if there is confusion - I phoned them up about a similar callsign at a similar time and they promised to change it immediately - never had the problem again.
On the plus side, one UK airline of an orange persuasion is pretty quick at changing callsigns if there is confusion - I phoned them up about a similar callsign at a similar time and they promised to change it immediately - never had the problem again.
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Just couldn't get 83WG earlier today. My mouth refused to say it and half the sectors I flew through struggled as well. 2DA is quite unpleasant too: two-deltafa
In a previous life I had the pleasure of regularly operating 5125 as company 5215 was inbound, usually one ahead of or behind us. Controllers were even more confused than we were.
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In a previous life I had the pleasure of regularly operating 5125 as company 5215 was inbound, usually one ahead of or behind us. Controllers were even more confused than we were.
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At one of my previous units........
"XXX, this is Klingon Formation, two Pumas with a silly callsign."
Some of the RYR and EZY combinations can get to you sometimes.
"XXX, this is Klingon Formation, two Pumas with a silly callsign."
Some of the RYR and EZY combinations can get to you sometimes.
Way, way back controllers could instruct a pilot to use whatever callsign they thought fit if confusion reigned. The obvious one was to ask them to use aircraft registration, which usually solved the problem.
CAP413 suggests that there are constraints on alternative call signs...
An aircraft shall not change its callsign type during a flight. However, where there is a likelihood that confusion may occur because of similar callsigns, an aircraft may be instructed by an air traffic service unit (ATSU) to change the type of its callsign temporarily.
and, if necessary, instruct one or both
aircraft to use alternative or full callsigns while they remain on the frequency.
There used to be a bizjet in Oz called FOX, always hard espescially when in a hurry.
There was the Machi Squadron called BANANA.
They would come on frequency with.......
Banana1, banana2, banana3, banana4.
Then there is a lighty near Brisbane called YYY.
I do hope it has Delijah painted on its engine nacelle.
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There was the Machi Squadron called BANANA.
They would come on frequency with.......
Banana1, banana2, banana3, banana4.
Then there is a lighty near Brisbane called YYY.
I do hope it has Delijah painted on its engine nacelle.
AA
In the days when shuttle used 4 figure callsigns, suggested we say (e.g.) "forty six, sixty five" instead of 4665. Nobody else seemed to think much of the idea. Any ATCO like to comment?
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Apparently, the short numerical callsigns are the only things that will work in some parts of the world as their ATM systems will reject anything else. And I do hope that KLM971 (Zooker's post) isn't a long haul flight because I'm going home one that later today.
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scotbill - Australian ATC have used grouped callsigns for while. Can cause problems of its own eg 'Qantas five eighty' and 'Qantas five eighty two' are easier to confuse then 'Qantas five eight zero' and 'Qantas five eight two'.
Then there are oddities like 'Qantas seven sixty seven", which is usually but not always a B767, 'Virgin seven forty seven' which isn't a B747 etc. I shudder to think what our US cousins would make of 'Qantas nine eleven"!
Then there are oddities like 'Qantas seven sixty seven", which is usually but not always a B767, 'Virgin seven forty seven' which isn't a B747 etc. I shudder to think what our US cousins would make of 'Qantas nine eleven"!
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We had this C500 departing a few weeks ago: 4O-OOO, and we all thought the flightstrip printer was on test or something. It wasn't.
JetPhotos.Net Photo » 4O-OOO Private Cessna 500 Citation by Echelon01
JetPhotos.Net Photo » 4O-OOO Private Cessna 500 Citation by Echelon01
