Weird, or better said stupid callsigns
 

hi, I know this has been discussed before, but can we make a list of difficult callsigns and try to persuade navigational offices or whoever decides about them that sometimes their creations are plain and simple idiotic?

last night I had WZZ4KQ

I challenge the guy/gal who invented it to pronounce it hundred times in a row sans error....

Wiskey Zulu Zulu Fower Kilo Kaybek. Seems OK to me ;)

Sierra Golf Charlie

Maybe some clout required from the pilot community here. After all, ATC are saddled with this nonsense for about 10 transmissions as the culprit a/c transits the sector/airfield.

Spare a thought for the aircrew who have to use the c/s from start to finish.

P.S.
Why do most long-haul flights still have civilized call-signs? Today, over Mt. Belzoni we saw:- DAL133, DLH418, BAW274, COA47, KLM971, VIR19, QTR046, SWR40, etc.
Anyone seen 'Midland 1' recently?

WZZ= Wizzair


We have a daily flight through our airspace with the route number "107S". Little bit of a tongue twister.

Moonflower. WTF?

Plazbot,
'Moonflower' is also the title of a really good double-live album by Santana. :ok:

Zooker, all to do with diplomatic clearances on certain routes. BAW still fly combinations of 19, 39, 139, 119 etc every night from LHR heading east around 10pm. I've tried several times to get them changed following a few confusion instances but the powers that be still haven't managed it. I dread to think of what circumstances will persuade them to push a little harder......

Oh yes, Wizzair has just made some changes to its callsings, and now all of them, at least those to/from EPKT, have a pattern of WZZ4??. Anyway, it's better than those that they have used during April - i.e. WZZ4455. Wizzair FoFoFaFa? ;)

I once had on frequency four traffics with these callsigns at the same time, all of them asking for climb: BER254, BER524, HLF452 and HLF264.

I´m still wondering if they got my clearances right... :hmm:

In my company, we are encouraged to submit ASRs if we have a callsign conflict with another aircraft, whether it's with one of our own company or another one. I'm told, although I don't know how it works, that the process of getting it changed is relatively simple once the right people have been made aware.

Do ATC units not have a similar facility, to allow them to report conflicts to the relevant people (airline flight planning departments or whoever) and get the callsigns changed accordingly?

Worst I ever heard was 12TM103A. VYT & WYT also used to be a bit of a tongue twister (Yankee Tankee). :)

EWY - Echo Whiskey Wankey :eek:

Selectair, Stansted
 

SEX001, was a easy number to remember, never had the nerve to use 6942.

glf

or worse, there is permutation to this callsign WZZ445S and WZZ445G

and my eyesight is not as good as it used to be :E

well it looks like Wizzair taking the lead. :E

Had it today WZZ4ZZ :}

and TSO1111 :ugh:

Zippy Monster, yes, ATC also have a reporting system that can alert the right people about potential callsign conflicts, it is how all the new alpha numeric callsigns came about in the first place. Many years ago in the days of Swissair, they sent 800, 820, 830, 840, 860 and 880 into the UK all at the same time. An hour later, they all departed but with a 1 on the end, exiting UK airspace through the same point. After a few confusions and a couple of safety issues, the whole callsign deconflicting really kicked off. Around the same era, BAW also sent 361, 551, 561, 631, 651 and 661 into the same bit of UK airspace as the Swissair's also entered at around the same time, not a happy Lydd Sector controller! There are some that are just bad timing (one late by a few hours and another a little early) and as I said earlier, still some that cannot be changed easily due to the international agreements obtained for those particular flights.

And then there was the day when Channex had two different aircraft in UK airspace using the SAME callsign.........

Way, way back controllers could instruct a pilot to use whatever callsign they thought fit if confusion reigned. The obvious one was to ask them to use aircraft registration, which usually solved the problem.

Still possible!

"WZZ4455, Due to similar callsign your new callsign is: INDIA DELTA INDIA OSCAR TANGO 1"

Have enjoyed BAW114, BAW115, COA114, AAL115 and BAW117 on frequency at the same time a couple of times in the last month or so. :confused:

Amazingly, they all got their calls right as well

BEE6ER and BEE6RE was a good one a couple of months ago.