Whats happening with the snow at work?
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Probably doesn't matter...
TACT/CASA MESSAGE: XCD
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REF : SNOW AT EGLL --ZERO RATE FOR ARRIVING TRAFFIC---
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REG ID : EGLLA02E
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VALID : 0850: UNTIL: 1230 UTC
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REMARKS : FCM MESSAGE NOT REQUIRED
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CFMU OPERATIONS DIVISION-BRUSSELS
At least AMAN should be able to cope with that
TACT/CASA MESSAGE: XCD
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REF : SNOW AT EGLL --ZERO RATE FOR ARRIVING TRAFFIC---
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REG ID : EGLLA02E
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VALID : 0850: UNTIL: 1230 UTC
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REMARKS : FCM MESSAGE NOT REQUIRED
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At least AMAN should be able to cope with that
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yeah the morning shift made it in... like british rail, late but they got there! And actually, though i'd never say this out loud, AMAN was quite well behaved this morning... The eats were within 10 mins of being correct... Its getting better... 
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Runway 09R should be open at Heathrow in 5 minutes I think.
Weres COA110 going? He was holding hes now gone to London and now north of Luton at FL220
Were has all the Long haul Inbounds gone? Theres a stack at Ock and BIG of Virgin a/c and to my shock suprise no BA :P
Weres COA110 going? He was holding hes now gone to London and now north of Luton at FL220
Were has all the Long haul Inbounds gone? Theres a stack at Ock and BIG of Virgin a/c and to my shock suprise no BA :P
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Cardiff diversions:
BA 228 Baltmore
BA 264 Washington
BA 048 Seattle
Glasgow diversions:
BA 298 Chicago
BA 196 Houston
Newcastle diversions:
BA 068 Philadelphia
BA 144 Dhaka
BA 252 Nassau
Shannon diversions:
BA 208 Miami
BA 084 Vancouver
BA 282 Los Angeles
Prestwick diversions:
BA 284 San Francisco
BA 286 San Francisco
BA 154 Cairo
Manchester Diversions:
BA 058 Cape Town
BA 124 Bahrain
BA 296 from Chicago
Others:
BA 256 from Delhi diverted to Gatwick
BA 036 from Chennai diverted to East Midlands
BA 118 from Bangalore diverted to Birmingham
BA 098 from Toronto diverted to Amsterdam
BA 074 from Lagos diverted to Barcelona
NW104 from Minneapolis diverted to Amsterdam
BA 228 Baltmore
BA 264 Washington
BA 048 Seattle
Glasgow diversions:
BA 298 Chicago
BA 196 Houston
Newcastle diversions:
BA 068 Philadelphia
BA 144 Dhaka
BA 252 Nassau
Shannon diversions:
BA 208 Miami
BA 084 Vancouver
BA 282 Los Angeles
Prestwick diversions:
BA 284 San Francisco
BA 286 San Francisco
BA 154 Cairo
Manchester Diversions:
BA 058 Cape Town
BA 124 Bahrain
BA 296 from Chicago
Others:
BA 256 from Delhi diverted to Gatwick
BA 036 from Chennai diverted to East Midlands
BA 118 from Bangalore diverted to Birmingham
BA 098 from Toronto diverted to Amsterdam
BA 074 from Lagos diverted to Barcelona
NW104 from Minneapolis diverted to Amsterdam
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Thanks, were did all the BA aircraft inbound go? It was a shock to see the UKs biggest carrier no were to be seen.
Must take more notice in English lessons I think.
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Let's not forget those of us at the airports that took large numbers of diversions whilst having to deal with all the crappy weather and closures etc. What did we get? square root of F*#k all!!!
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A quick question from Norway....how come a few cm. of snow can shut down EGLL? Don't they have snowremoval equipment and cleaning plans, to cope with just little snow like today?
I'm so amazed by this. In Oslo we allmost never close a runway for more than 15 minutes to clean it, and use the other one for combined operation during that time. About a week ago we had like 40cm in a day with just minor delays (we "loose" about 4 arrivals for cleaning the runway)
All my sympathy to you all who had to sort out everything in the air today
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I'm so amazed by this. In Oslo we allmost never close a runway for more than 15 minutes to clean it, and use the other one for combined operation during that time. About a week ago we had like 40cm in a day with just minor delays (we "loose" about 4 arrivals for cleaning the runway)
All my sympathy to you all who had to sort out everything in the air today
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Final vectors ,
Agreed , here at Heathrow we seem to struggle with snow. Remember though you might get snow every winter, here we don't. We only see snow fall like this every 20 years or so. You buy for the average snow fall and when you get more you work hard to clear it. Your average is going to be a lot higher than here, where my 7 year old has only seen snow twice.
Agreed , here at Heathrow we seem to struggle with snow. Remember though you might get snow every winter, here we don't. We only see snow fall like this every 20 years or so. You buy for the average snow fall and when you get more you work hard to clear it. Your average is going to be a lot higher than here, where my 7 year old has only seen snow twice.
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I've seen the snow clearing at Oslo. Even in heavy snow, one RW was used for departures and arrivals while the other is cleared with de-icing bays next to the RW holding points. It was impressive. How much would it all cost for LHR to gear up with as many snow ploughs etc as Olso? There would still be diversions with only one RW in use, but how much did LHR lose yesterday, let alone their customers?
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Probably nowhere near as much as it would cost to buy, keep, maintain all the equiptment required for, as autothrottle says, an occurance that is rare.
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PS - 250kts - I'm glad I'm not the only one irritated aby where/were - there/their/they're and lose/loose!
louby
PS - 250kts - I'm glad I'm not the only one irritated aby where/were - there/their/they're and lose/loose!
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'Equiptment'??!!
It would be good to find out how much it would cost exactly. I wonder if the fire trucks could be converted for dual use duties to include snow clearance. Heathrow's reputation must be worth something also....
It would be good to find out how much it would cost exactly. I wonder if the fire trucks could be converted for dual use duties to include snow clearance. Heathrow's reputation must be worth something also....
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I dimly recall an exceptionally heavy snow fall at Stansted in the late 60's I think. Out came the snow clearance vehicles that hadn't been used for years. It wasn't until the entire length of 23 had been swept down the centre-line that someone noticed that most of the wire bristles from one of the machine's brushes had fallen out. Where were they? Scattered down the entire length of what had been swept! FOD with a vengeance. Use 'em or lose 'em I suppose. Mind you, Stansted then wasn't what you would call "busy".