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Old 18th Jul 2011, 09:44
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Did someone say EFD was a short term problem????
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 17:26
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BD...
Previously ATSA posts have been filled by contractors responding to jobcentre vacancies, if you've got the necessary aptitude anyone can be trained.
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Time..Money..(such a shortage!!) and who will do the training??
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 18:53
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Originally Posted by kats-I
Time..Money..(such a shortage!!) and who will do the training??
Does depend on when OCT starts

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Old 18th Jul 2011, 21:23
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"Does depend on when OCT starts"
Isn't it on the first of OCTober?
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 21:46
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OCT2, according to post 2315.
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 18:24
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I see Mr Mills and a couple of executive cohorts have "left NATS with immediate effect" today.

Connected to the ongoing pay shambles perhaps?
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 20:30
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Would that be the same one who was " widely acknowledged as an expert in project management development and deployment." and who said in 2009 that EFD would be fully operational by November 1st 2010 ?
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 20:31
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Big shame that, he will be missed
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 21:19
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I bet he walks away with a few quid. I look forward to finding out exactly how much.
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 21:20
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It is a shame when people lose their job

Do you think it was the ATCO's who got payed too much or the ATSA's and Engineers who did not get payed enough?
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 21:24
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A combination of the two (plus ATSS) and EFD I'd think - and hope.
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 22:12
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Ceannairceach,
interesting to note that all trace of Mr. Mills has been removed from the NATS website this evening.
Will this post be advertised externally? I have no experience in management type things, but I have a lower second in Geology/Geography and would like to work in an office overlooking Goatfell.
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Old 4th Aug 2011, 18:51
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'Night of the long knives' in NERL.....

I wonder how many 'work' mobiles were left in the car today?
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Old 4th Aug 2011, 21:10
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A couple of the protagonists were in a rather important meeting with NTUS on the night of the long knives which was duly interrupted by some nice people from security who proceeded to escort said people to their desks to clear up, then off the premises.

I really hope the truths when it comes to the why's comes out....
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 11:46
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interesting to note that all trace of Mr. Mills has been removed from the NATS website this evening.
And, at the time of this post, Ian Hall's biography still mentions his previous role as Director, International Operations (which I always imagined was a pre-retirement post)!

And Elvis's songwriter seems to have a bigger role now!
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 12:53
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I'm not in work today so haven't read NATS net to see the reasons given or exactly who has gone along with Ian Mills, could someone enlighten me?
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 14:25
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I'm not in work today so haven't read NATS net to see the reasons given or exactly who has gone along with Ian Mills, could someone enlighten me?
Directors of HR (NERL) and Supply Chain & Business Services went with him.

I very much doubt they will be the last...
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 14:55
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Is that Phillip James? I thought he had already left. If it was his replacement, then it was a very short time in post.
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 15:08
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Is that Phillip James? I thought he had already left. If it was his replacement, then it was a very short time in post.
Philip was NATS HR Director... This is NERL HR Director.

I know...
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 15:28
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"left NATS with immediate effect"
That is a phrase I usually associate with people being dismissed. Were any reasons for these 'changes' given?
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