Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
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From: Brisbane, Australia
Increments
It used to be automatic, up a level every year of service. Now it's dependant on your 'work performance' i.e. how many sick days you take.
Weeeeell Topdrop, great stuff And I have personal information of controllers who were promised one increment, not accelerated, and were gibbed in the process to have the 'promising' manager deny ever agreeing to the one increment let alone accelerated. Depends where you work and who your friends are I guess??
Is it appropriate that for a controller to progress through ATC pay scales they have to do non ATC things?
DP
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From: YMML
Good luck
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From: next door
Brisbane centre courses
Just wondering if anyone out there is able to provide some info on the courses being run out of Brisbane.
ie, general start times, facilities (classrooms, syndicate / study rooms), after hours access, gym?? and the like.
Starting course in a couple of months and trying to get a bit better idea of the daily routine and layout so I can get try and figure out a work/play/rest/travel ratio
Cheers
ie, general start times, facilities (classrooms, syndicate / study rooms), after hours access, gym?? and the like.
Starting course in a couple of months and trying to get a bit better idea of the daily routine and layout so I can get try and figure out a work/play/rest/travel ratio
Cheers
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From: Brisbane
Hi Madbrid
I did my training in Melbourne so start times may be different, but we started at 7am at the earliest, 11am at the latest (they had courses spread out their start times to accommodate the sim).
Theres a couple of class rooms - you will probably be assigned one for your course so you don't have to move around. There's an area behind the TV room you could do some private study, or set up downstairs in the cafeteria (outside of lunchtime theres always plenty of room there). These areas (aside from the classrooms) will be accessible 24/7.
There is also a gym on site you will be able to sign up for once you get here that has all hours access.
Hope that helps
I did my training in Melbourne so start times may be different, but we started at 7am at the earliest, 11am at the latest (they had courses spread out their start times to accommodate the sim).
Theres a couple of class rooms - you will probably be assigned one for your course so you don't have to move around. There's an area behind the TV room you could do some private study, or set up downstairs in the cafeteria (outside of lunchtime theres always plenty of room there). These areas (aside from the classrooms) will be accessible 24/7.
There is also a gym on site you will be able to sign up for once you get here that has all hours access.
Hope that helps
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From: Northoz
Courses in Brisbane
Hi Madbrid, and congrats on getting onto an atc training course.
In Brisbane, they are set up to have 2 courses at any time, due to the need to share the sim. You will work a basic 9-5 for the first 8 weeks while you do the introductory theory component of the course. Then you will be in the sim for the next 12 months basically, and work a 0700-1412 or 1148-1900 shift week about.
The training is normally delivered with about a 1 hour sim pre brief, followed by 5 hours in the sim (2 hours playing pilot and 2 playing atc) followed by a 1 hour debrief. There are 4 modules that you need to pass in the sim; DTI, non radar, radar and combined ops. There are also periods when theory trainng is also delivered concurrent with the sim program, for example, when you do the non radar module, you will also do your sep standards theory,which, naturally, is a critical subject.
The Brisbane training is done in the operations building ( unlike Melbourne, which is done in a separate stand alone facility) so you have easier access to
the gym, stand down areas, canteen etc etc used by the operational staff.
Good luck with the course.
In Brisbane, they are set up to have 2 courses at any time, due to the need to share the sim. You will work a basic 9-5 for the first 8 weeks while you do the introductory theory component of the course. Then you will be in the sim for the next 12 months basically, and work a 0700-1412 or 1148-1900 shift week about.
The training is normally delivered with about a 1 hour sim pre brief, followed by 5 hours in the sim (2 hours playing pilot and 2 playing atc) followed by a 1 hour debrief. There are 4 modules that you need to pass in the sim; DTI, non radar, radar and combined ops. There are also periods when theory trainng is also delivered concurrent with the sim program, for example, when you do the non radar module, you will also do your sep standards theory,which, naturally, is a critical subject.
The Brisbane training is done in the operations building ( unlike Melbourne, which is done in a separate stand alone facility) so you have easier access to
the gym, stand down areas, canteen etc etc used by the operational staff.
Good luck with the course.
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From: melbourne
Hi, can anyone give me idea how long it may take to start the course if i apply now?(if i successfully go through all steps & i live in melb)
and i am from non-English speaking background but as i finished my degree in finance n staying here for 7 yrs , so i am pretty ok in communicating but do i have to have a decent accent for the job ?
and i am from non-English speaking background but as i finished my degree in finance n staying here for 7 yrs , so i am pretty ok in communicating but do i have to have a decent accent for the job ?
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From: YMML
Applicants with no prior experience (ab initio):
* Learning Academy: 12 months approximately
* Final field training: 4 – 6 months approximately"
source
However, it is my understanding that tower courses tend to get through the learning academy in less than 12 months, and the enroute courses may take slightly longer than 12 months.
"To be eligible for training, applicants are required to meet the mandatory criteria at the time of submitting their application. Applicants are required to:
...
* be an Australian or New Zealand Citizen or hold permanent residency status in Australia"
source
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From: melbourne
Thnkx for quick reply, I am holding australian citizenship so i am eligible on that term. But how long it takes for the interview process ? means duration between day 1(job application) and Final notification that u r selected for training ? how many months 4/5 ?
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From: Brisbane
From what I've heard from people just starting in the Academy, it's about 6 months at the moment. Prior to that, it was out to 14 months for some people (me and just about everyone else who started around the same time 
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From: Cairns, Australia
Hi All,
I'm going through the application process at the moment as well. I had my phone interview before Christmas and have yet to hear anything else. The lady who conducted my interview told me I would be going through to the next round, which for me is a full assessment day in Brisbane sometime in late March. The wait is getting very hard. I am practising my mental arithmetic though!
I'm going through the application process at the moment as well. I had my phone interview before Christmas and have yet to hear anything else. The lady who conducted my interview told me I would be going through to the next round, which for me is a full assessment day in Brisbane sometime in late March. The wait is getting very hard. I am practising my mental arithmetic though!
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From: YMML
This post is not financial advice.
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From: Earth
The biggest thing I noticed during testing is the lack of background knowledge others had. Yes it is true you can get by, but if you show no interest I.e not visiting any towers etc, or having a basic knowledge of what atc is all about, you are setting yourself up to fail at the college.
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From: Melbourne,Australia
New Here!!
Hi,
I have really found this forum very interesting and resourceful-Thanks a lot!
I have recently applied for the ATC in take for 2012 on the 30th of January 2012 as advertised on SEEK website-does anyone know when is this intake for?? its for en-route positions though here in Melbourne.
anyone else applied recently in January through seek?
will keep posted!
Cheers
I have really found this forum very interesting and resourceful-Thanks a lot!
I have recently applied for the ATC in take for 2012 on the 30th of January 2012 as advertised on SEEK website-does anyone know when is this intake for?? its for en-route positions though here in Melbourne.
anyone else applied recently in January through seek?
will keep posted!
Cheers
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From: Brisbane
I also applied about 2 weeks ago though not through seek, I applied directly on their websites job listing. Looking at the seek listing it looks exactly the same though. I'm really keen to start getting through the recruitment process but it's all a waiting game I guess!
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From: Melbourne,Australia
good luck and hopefully the norm has been around a month's time from the application date-you receive an invitation to complete online assessments and considering the closing date is 12th of March-its a waiting game.