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Old 1st Feb 2010, 00:17
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interesting you say that Plaz - it seems the frequent reports from the course recently started have dried up!

Everyone working hard with no spare time, or have they been told?
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 09:07
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Listen to plazbot if you have just started with ASA.

How's the sandpit Plazbot?
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 10:16
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Hey Plaz,

I started in Aisle 1 today. You've gone! So who's going to gang sign me when I walk in to the room?

Any surf in the sandpit buddy?
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 10:17
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Talk about scaring the new kid.

Just make sure you get through the first 7 weeks of theory, then try and dominate in the sim. Think about the politics when you are an expeirenced FPC and the biggest worry in the day is getting the time sheet right.

I'm still a long way from that, still learning how to survive out here
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 10:36
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The info I've posted re the Learning Academy is aimed at the soon-to-starters who I hope to see around the traps in the near future.
Does this qualify as a breach of 'commercial in confidence'?
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 11:24
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Only if ASA says so!

Truthfully be careful what and where you post. ASA line managers have so much time on thier hands they are constantly trolling these pages!
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 16:29
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Max/Pedro

Still trying to spend the whopping 4 and a half months payout I got for the leave AsA could not give me. The Breitling on my wrist is telling me it is time to go buy another Porsche.

I thought you had done your time in Tops Pierre? Did you upset someone? At least the aisle now has a new 2nd best ALM (1st would still have to be the empty chair)

As per above comment, AsA have a history of swinging a big stick to make an example for people to follow. You can be sure the Bank Manager in the College would love to be the person who created the story about 'that trainee who got sacked for posting on the internet'. Watch yourselves.

Now on with the show.....
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 10:09
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Sad but true. PPrune pages have made their way into court and ASA have a Sydney firm trying to identify employees! But just becasue Big Brother is watching doesn't mean you shudnt spit in his eye... in fact, it's a damn good reason to if you ask me.

Just set up a communal account that everyone uses, then there's no way to know who posted what because everyone has the defence of plausible deniability. You just have to make sure more than two know about it. So, for instance you might write the login details on a White board and take a photo in the extremeley unlikerly event anything comes of it.

Now let the show begin!!
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Old 3rd Feb 2010, 04:46
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I thought that the honeymoon was over a couple of weeks ago.
Now, after today, I realise I couldn't have been more wrong.....
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Old 3rd Feb 2010, 07:20
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I thought you had done your time in Tops Pierre? Did you upset someone? At least the aisle now has a new 2nd best ALM (1st would still have to be the empty chair)
No, I was asked to join the ailse 1 team and I said yes. While I enjoyed my time in aisle 3, after 9 years I thought that a new challenge would be good. After 3 days in the aisle I've discovered, it is a big challenge.

Catchyalater
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Old 4th Feb 2010, 03:56
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Well, heading toward the business end of the theory phase now.
Exams pretty much from next week onward, as well as starting some new subjects.
For the last couple of days especially, it felt like the water was threatening to make it's way past my chin, but some things seem to have finally clicked, and it's gone back down to around nipple height. (Still pretty cold though!)
I think the trick is to hang in there and keep hacking away at it.
No doubt things will ramp right up again next week.
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Old 4th Feb 2010, 06:28
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The exams die down after about 6 weeks to a dull roar. Still go right through the course though. Just remember the end goal. I quite enjoyed the college as it was then. Went through with a good bunch of blokes and gals.
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 08:12
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shift hours/enroute

hi guys/girls - as a newstart at the college i was wondering could someone inform me what the shift/roster patterns are like in melbourne enroute for those who succeed through college/the field? ive come from the uk where with NATS it was 6 days on (2morn,midday,night shifts) 4 days off.......
..........secondly are there opportunities to progress within enroute e.g. could someone in enroute convert to tower or is that not possible meaning melbourne will be forever your home from home!? reason being i seem to be the one of the few who was not offered the choice of tower at any stage which would have been my preference...it may have been a small oversight on AsA's behalf but I probably would have taken tower knowing the risk that goes with it (being posted to the middle of nowhere)

thanks in advance
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 11:19
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The traditional shift run in some places is Evening, day, morning then back the same night then off off. Repeat. (1400-2300, 0900-1700, 0600-1300 same day 2300-0600 sleep that day, OFF OFF. and similar) 1 weekend off in 6. Other places have bizzare runs where you never seem to work the same sequence of shifts and have to consult your roster every day. There is a new roster system coming into use that is computerised and allocates staff that are available to cover the published hours of coverage. This will be more haphazard again.

As for Enroute to Tower, it is very very rare. TMA to Tower more likely but still pretty rare. Enroute to TMA is impossible from some groups as well (eg Tops) as you are required to go via an arrivals type function to tick the box for experience. So assuming you go to Tops or West P (which is where they seem to send all the previous experience guys), 15 years there, 7 years on something arrivals, 10 years TMA then up the pole. This all asumes your 'corporate behaviour' is up to scratch as that is now a criteria for applying for anything internal these days. Hope you are young.
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 05:06
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72 hour fortnight.

I will leave the 'corporate behaviour' explanation to a current employee.
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Old 7th Feb 2010, 01:09
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hey boys/girls, hows the gym at the asa complex? Any good?
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Old 7th Feb 2010, 01:17
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hey boys/girls, hows the gym at the asa complex? Any good?
It's a bit basic, but not too bad considering it's free.
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Tower or Coalmine there is no choice
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 06:39
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Talk about a roller-coaster!

One minute you think everything's under control, and then you get slapped with something new. It'll feel like a real struggle for a while until something else clicks and you start reeling things back in.
Not sure, exactly, where on the ride I am at the moment, just concentrating on hanging on.
I've never done anything this intense!

Back to hacking away....
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 10:47
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It's taken 5 weeks, but I feel like my brain is starting to think differently, as if it's getting 'trained up'.
I haven't had to use it in this way for over a decade so it's a matter of re-learning study and memory techniques.
Some of the subjects include a lot of list recital, and it's the sheer volume of info that you have to somehow process and retain that's a bit tricky.
Since we've started, a lot of info that seemed fairly random and chaotic at first, is by now being touched on and expanded in other subjects, and I'm finding this is reinforcing what we've learned so far. It's nice to finally start seeing things in context

The bigger subjects are:
Search and Rescue - lots of lists, protocols and procedures
Communications - everything from hardware to phraseology
ATS - a kind of all-encompassing subject about the job and how it's done

It's all pretty interesting, though, and sharing the intensity of college with such a great bunch of people is really motivating.
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