Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Melbourne
Talk about scaring the new kid.
Just make sure you get through the first 7 weeks of theory, then try and dominate in the sim. Think about the politics when you are an expeirenced FPC and the biggest worry in the day is getting the time sheet right.
I'm still a long way from that, still learning how to survive out here
Just make sure you get through the first 7 weeks of theory, then try and dominate in the sim. Think about the politics when you are an expeirenced FPC and the biggest worry in the day is getting the time sheet right.
I'm still a long way from that, still learning how to survive out here
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: Hell's Gates
Max/Pedro
Still trying to spend the whopping 4 and a half months payout I got for the leave AsA could not give me. The Breitling on my wrist is telling me it is time to go buy another Porsche.
I thought you had done your time in Tops Pierre? Did you upset someone? At least the aisle now has a new 2nd best ALM (1st would still have to be the empty chair)
As per above comment, AsA have a history of swinging a big stick to make an example for people to follow. You can be sure the Bank Manager in the College would love to be the person who created the story about 'that trainee who got sacked for posting on the internet'. Watch yourselves.
Now on with the show.....
Still trying to spend the whopping 4 and a half months payout I got for the leave AsA could not give me. The Breitling on my wrist is telling me it is time to go buy another Porsche.
I thought you had done your time in Tops Pierre? Did you upset someone? At least the aisle now has a new 2nd best ALM (1st would still have to be the empty chair
)As per above comment, AsA have a history of swinging a big stick to make an example for people to follow. You can be sure the Bank Manager in the College would love to be the person who created the story about 'that trainee who got sacked for posting on the internet'. Watch yourselves.
Now on with the show.....
Joined: Feb 2010
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From: Gondwanaland
Sad but true. PPrune pages have made their way into court and ASA have a Sydney firm trying to identify employees! But just becasue Big Brother is watching doesn't mean you shudnt spit in his eye... in fact, it's a damn good reason to if you ask me.
Just set up a communal account that everyone uses, then there's no way to know who posted what because everyone has the defence of plausible deniability. You just have to make sure more than two know about it. So, for instance you might write the login details on a White board and take a photo in the extremeley unlikerly event anything comes of it.
Now let the show begin!!
Just set up a communal account that everyone uses, then there's no way to know who posted what because everyone has the defence of plausible deniability. You just have to make sure more than two know about it. So, for instance you might write the login details on a White board and take a photo in the extremeley unlikerly event anything comes of it.
Now let the show begin!!
Joined: Jan 2004
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From: Brisbane, Australia
I thought you had done your time in Tops Pierre? Did you upset someone? At least the aisle now has a new 2nd best ALM (1st would still have to be the empty chair)
Catchyalater
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Melbourne
Well, heading toward the business end of the theory phase now.
Exams pretty much from next week onward, as well as starting some new subjects.
For the last couple of days especially, it felt like the water was threatening to make it's way past my chin, but some things seem to have finally clicked, and it's gone back down to around nipple height. (Still pretty cold though!
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I think the trick is to hang in there and keep hacking away at it.
No doubt things will ramp right up again next week.
Exams pretty much from next week onward, as well as starting some new subjects.
For the last couple of days especially, it felt like the water was threatening to make it's way past my chin, but some things seem to have finally clicked, and it's gone back down to around nipple height. (Still pretty cold though!
)I think the trick is to hang in there and keep hacking away at it.
No doubt things will ramp right up again next week.
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From: Karratha,Western Australia
The exams die down after about 6 weeks to a dull roar. Still go right through the course though. Just remember the end goal. I quite enjoyed the college as it was then. Went through with a good bunch of blokes and gals.
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Sydney
shift hours/enroute
hi guys/girls - as a newstart at the college i was wondering could someone inform me what the shift/roster patterns are like in melbourne enroute for those who succeed through college/the field? ive come from the uk where with NATS it was 6 days on (2morn,midday,night shifts) 4 days off.......
..........secondly are there opportunities to progress within enroute e.g. could someone in enroute convert to tower or is that not possible meaning melbourne will be forever your home from home!? reason being i seem to be the one of the few who was not offered the choice of tower at any stage which would have been my preference...it may have been a small oversight on AsA's behalf but I probably would have taken tower knowing the risk that goes with it (being posted to the middle of nowhere)
thanks in advance
..........secondly are there opportunities to progress within enroute e.g. could someone in enroute convert to tower or is that not possible meaning melbourne will be forever your home from home!? reason being i seem to be the one of the few who was not offered the choice of tower at any stage which would have been my preference...it may have been a small oversight on AsA's behalf but I probably would have taken tower knowing the risk that goes with it (being posted to the middle of nowhere)
thanks in advance
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From: Hell's Gates
The traditional shift run in some places is Evening, day, morning then back the same night then off off. Repeat. (1400-2300, 0900-1700, 0600-1300 same day 2300-0600 sleep that day, OFF OFF. and similar) 1 weekend off in 6. Other places have bizzare runs where you never seem to work the same sequence of shifts and have to consult your roster every day. There is a new roster system coming into use that is computerised and allocates staff that are available to cover the published hours of coverage. This will be more haphazard again.
As for Enroute to Tower, it is very very rare. TMA to Tower more likely but still pretty rare. Enroute to TMA is impossible from some groups as well (eg Tops) as you are required to go via an arrivals type function to tick the box for experience. So assuming you go to Tops or West P (which is where they seem to send all the previous experience guys), 15 years there, 7 years on something arrivals, 10 years TMA then up the pole. This all asumes your 'corporate behaviour' is up to scratch as that is now a criteria for applying for anything internal these days. Hope you are young.
As for Enroute to Tower, it is very very rare. TMA to Tower more likely but still pretty rare. Enroute to TMA is impossible from some groups as well (eg Tops) as you are required to go via an arrivals type function to tick the box for experience. So assuming you go to Tops or West P (which is where they seem to send all the previous experience guys), 15 years there, 7 years on something arrivals, 10 years TMA then up the pole. This all asumes your 'corporate behaviour' is up to scratch as that is now a criteria for applying for anything internal these days. Hope you are young.
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From: Melbourne
Talk about a roller-coaster!
One minute you think everything's under control, and then you get slapped with something new. It'll feel like a real struggle for a while until something else clicks and you start reeling things back in.
Not sure, exactly, where on the ride I am at the moment, just concentrating on hanging on.
I've never done anything this intense!
Back to hacking away....
One minute you think everything's under control, and then you get slapped with something new. It'll feel like a real struggle for a while until something else clicks and you start reeling things back in.
Not sure, exactly, where on the ride I am at the moment, just concentrating on hanging on.
I've never done anything this intense!
Back to hacking away....
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From: Melbourne
It's taken 5 weeks, but I feel like my brain is starting to think differently, as if it's getting 'trained up'.
I haven't had to use it in this way for over a decade so it's a matter of re-learning study and memory techniques.
Some of the subjects include a lot of list recital, and it's the sheer volume of info that you have to somehow process and retain that's a bit tricky.
Since we've started, a lot of info that seemed fairly random and chaotic at first, is by now being touched on and expanded in other subjects, and I'm finding this is reinforcing what we've learned so far. It's nice to finally start seeing things in context
The bigger subjects are:
Search and Rescue - lots of lists, protocols and procedures
Communications - everything from hardware to phraseology
ATS - a kind of all-encompassing subject about the job and how it's done
It's all pretty interesting, though, and sharing the intensity of college with such a great bunch of people is really motivating.
I haven't had to use it in this way for over a decade so it's a matter of re-learning study and memory techniques.
Some of the subjects include a lot of list recital, and it's the sheer volume of info that you have to somehow process and retain that's a bit tricky.
Since we've started, a lot of info that seemed fairly random and chaotic at first, is by now being touched on and expanded in other subjects, and I'm finding this is reinforcing what we've learned so far. It's nice to finally start seeing things in context
The bigger subjects are:
Search and Rescue - lots of lists, protocols and procedures
Communications - everything from hardware to phraseology
ATS - a kind of all-encompassing subject about the job and how it's done
It's all pretty interesting, though, and sharing the intensity of college with such a great bunch of people is really motivating.