Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
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Blippy
The impression I get is that Enroute is mainly about long-term planning, you are keeping aircraft separated and making sure they stay separated, even some time down the line when aircraft on different tracks might be converging. You are also looking out for the controller in the next sector, making sure that he/she has half a chance of maintaining the separation of the aircraft you have fired at him/her.
Tower seems to be a more dynamic position, where you are reacting to constantly changing conditions on the ground and in the air. You also have the 'room with the view'.
I applied in Oct08 when AsA were only offering Enroute, but I did check the 'Interested in Tower' box on the application.
When I received the offer, it was either start Tower in Jan or wait untill March or even June for an Enroute position.
A lot can happen in 6 months and I thought I'd be crazy to pass up the opportunity (I have an interest in aircraft anyway and it seemed the obvious choice).
We, in the Tower course, seem to have landed on our feet, as Tower courses aren't offered that often, and Ab-Initio positions are even rarer.
I think the general banter in the classroom sums up a lot of the differences within the positions.
We call the Enroute guys 'Battery Hens' and they remind us to send them regular postcards from Karratha.
(Not sure who's come out on top....
)
Check out this link:
http://www.pprune.org/atc-issues/396...r-enroute.html
P.S. There are 4 Tower and 12 Enroute people in the current course.
The impression I get is that Enroute is mainly about long-term planning, you are keeping aircraft separated and making sure they stay separated, even some time down the line when aircraft on different tracks might be converging. You are also looking out for the controller in the next sector, making sure that he/she has half a chance of maintaining the separation of the aircraft you have fired at him/her.
Tower seems to be a more dynamic position, where you are reacting to constantly changing conditions on the ground and in the air. You also have the 'room with the view'.
I applied in Oct08 when AsA were only offering Enroute, but I did check the 'Interested in Tower' box on the application.
When I received the offer, it was either start Tower in Jan or wait untill March or even June for an Enroute position.
A lot can happen in 6 months and I thought I'd be crazy to pass up the opportunity (I have an interest in aircraft anyway and it seemed the obvious choice).
We, in the Tower course, seem to have landed on our feet, as Tower courses aren't offered that often, and Ab-Initio positions are even rarer.
I think the general banter in the classroom sums up a lot of the differences within the positions.
We call the Enroute guys 'Battery Hens' and they remind us to send them regular postcards from Karratha.
(Not sure who's come out on top....
)Check out this link:
http://www.pprune.org/atc-issues/396...r-enroute.html
P.S. There are 4 Tower and 12 Enroute people in the current course.
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Just for reference as a couple of people had asked
im from the Goldcoast
my application went in june09
got the OOM email december 20ish
had my references checked last week, 22nd jan
I have melbourne enroute marked as preference but also said id do tower if there was a spot
So now im just waiting on THAT call
im from the Goldcoast
my application went in june09
got the OOM email december 20ish
had my references checked last week, 22nd jan
I have melbourne enroute marked as preference but also said id do tower if there was a spot
So now im just waiting on THAT call
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This is just a bit of info for anyone waiting on the OOM list who may be offered a position soon and need to get their class three medical done.
Things that need to be done;
ARN - apply for this through the casa website (by email) they send it out in about a
week
Hearing test - this needs to be done in a sound proof booth
Eye check - Done by a DAO (Ophthalmologist)
Medical test - Done by a DAME
ECG - can be done by certain dame's or through your local gp
Blood test - can be done by dame or through gp but need to get the papers from
DAME, you do need to fast for this test
I got my ECG and Blood test organised at the medical center the DAME is at, doing the hearing and eye separately. Best to do DAME last if possible cause they are the ones you fill out the casa forms with and need all the results before they send them away. My dame medical center said they organise the 75 dollar casa fee and forms, im assuming most do to. I also rang around my area then every one in a closer radius to me to get the earliest posible appointment. Hard to organise in one month but can be done.
This might be no help to anyone but just in case it is I thought I would help
Things that need to be done;
ARN - apply for this through the casa website (by email) they send it out in about a
week
Hearing test - this needs to be done in a sound proof booth
Eye check - Done by a DAO (Ophthalmologist)
Medical test - Done by a DAME
ECG - can be done by certain dame's or through your local gp
Blood test - can be done by dame or through gp but need to get the papers from
DAME, you do need to fast for this test
I got my ECG and Blood test organised at the medical center the DAME is at, doing the hearing and eye separately. Best to do DAME last if possible cause they are the ones you fill out the casa forms with and need all the results before they send them away. My dame medical center said they organise the 75 dollar casa fee and forms, im assuming most do to. I also rang around my area then every one in a closer radius to me to get the earliest posible appointment. Hard to organise in one month but can be done.
This might be no help to anyone but just in case it is I thought I would help
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TAAATS, I didn't want to scare the kids.....
Thought I'd leave out the bit about the volumes and volumes of info you have to somehow retain and then spit out when the critical moment arrives.....
Surely, you were one of the people we saw on the tour who were lounging back, legs stretched out with hands folded behind heads, Rancho-Relaxo style?
Thought I'd leave out the bit about the volumes and volumes of info you have to somehow retain and then spit out when the critical moment arrives.....
Surely, you were one of the people we saw on the tour who were lounging back, legs stretched out with hands folded behind heads, Rancho-Relaxo style?
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Hi Guys,
Just a quick bit of info for you all.
Our HR department (called People and Change) are run from Canberra, and the communication between Canberra and the 2 centres (Brisbane and Melbourne) is not always the best. P&C are also in charge of the Learning Academy.
If you made the OOM then you will be offered a course, provided your referees don't do anything negative in regard to you, and your police/security check is okay.
The reason for the delay is that it takes time to offer say 20 people a course, wait for the replies, then organise the group on to a course liasing with the Learning Academy and the Centres and/or towers at the same time. It's a big jigsaw puzzle that takes time to fit together.
Don't forget, the centres and towers can only take a certain amount of trainees at a time, and we already have a back log of training going on in all ATC Groups.
Sorry if this is not good news, but the message is, hang in there, cause it will happen....although not overnight.
Best of luck everyone, I hope to meet you all in the ops room.
Just a quick bit of info for you all.
Our HR department (called People and Change) are run from Canberra, and the communication between Canberra and the 2 centres (Brisbane and Melbourne) is not always the best. P&C are also in charge of the Learning Academy.
If you made the OOM then you will be offered a course, provided your referees don't do anything negative in regard to you, and your police/security check is okay.
The reason for the delay is that it takes time to offer say 20 people a course, wait for the replies, then organise the group on to a course liasing with the Learning Academy and the Centres and/or towers at the same time. It's a big jigsaw puzzle that takes time to fit together.
Don't forget, the centres and towers can only take a certain amount of trainees at a time, and we already have a back log of training going on in all ATC Groups.
Sorry if this is not good news, but the message is, hang in there, cause it will happen....although not overnight.
Best of luck everyone, I hope to meet you all in the ops room.
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Hi guys
In the same boat as a few of you myself now just got an offer yesterday and can pick tower or enroute. Would so love to be up there in the room with a view but not going to risk ending up in Karratha or Tamworth (had enough boot scooting on raaf pilots course!)
See you in melbourne in June (got offered April but keen to get out of brisbane so going to go with June)
In the same boat as a few of you myself now just got an offer yesterday and can pick tower or enroute. Would so love to be up there in the room with a view but not going to risk ending up in Karratha or Tamworth (had enough boot scooting on raaf pilots course!)
See you in melbourne in June (got offered April but keen to get out of brisbane so going to go with June)
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Hey kookabat
I notice you were one of the original posters on this thread, way back on page 1, and that you've finally made it through on your 2nd attempt, like myself.
You got through to the interview last time (unlike myself), so did that mean you went straight through to the interview this time around, or did you have to go through the whole psych-testing process from scratch?
I notice you were one of the original posters on this thread, way back on page 1, and that you've finally made it through on your 2nd attempt, like myself.
You got through to the interview last time (unlike myself), so did that mean you went straight through to the interview this time around, or did you have to go through the whole psych-testing process from scratch?
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Nope, had to do the whole lot again. Would have seriously sucked to have been concentrating on getting the interview right the second time around, only to bomb out at the testing day and not even get that far!!! To tell the truth I wasn't particularly confident so the email in late December was a welcome surprise.
FWIW my second referee was called this morning
FWIW my second referee was called this morning
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I was on one of the selection panels in Melbourne last year that interviewed prospective ATC trainees, and I remember one of our selections was a guy who been passed over before who had a passion for MIG aircraft.
We couldn't work out why he had been passed over previously because we thought he was an ideal candidate for ATC training.
We couldn't work out why he had been passed over previously because we thought he was an ideal candidate for ATC training.
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Consider me incriminated....
I'm in the process of going through all the SAR notes we've received so far, and have been trying to ignore that nagging in the back of my head as to who you might be.
I'm just glad there are no black helicopters on their way!
Good to hear from you and thanks again.
MiG on!
Consider me incriminated....
I'm in the process of going through all the SAR notes we've received so far, and have been trying to ignore that nagging in the back of my head as to who you might be.
I'm just glad there are no black helicopters on their way!
Good to hear from you and thanks again.
MiG on!
Which rings me to something I have been somewhat avoiding mentioning....
Seeing a number of you guys have identified yourselves pretty specifically, may I suggest you create a new account if you want to say anythng in anyway about Airservices that may be 'commercial in confidence' even if just rumour or any type of venting. It is entirely possibe
that someone, somewhere is recording who you are. An no, I am not being sensational.
message me if you want further expansion.
Seeing a number of you guys have identified yourselves pretty specifically, may I suggest you create a new account if you want to say anythng in anyway about Airservices that may be 'commercial in confidence' even if just rumour or any type of venting. It is entirely possibe
that someone, somewhere is recording who you are. An no, I am not being sensational.message me if you want further expansion.