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Old 14th June 2024 | 13:20
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Originally Posted by NewZealand2
Congrats - hope you hear soon.

Any pointers for the assessment centre?
Thanks! And congrats if you've made it to the assessment centre. My only advice would be to have fun, work as a team, and be prepared to have all systems go. For the interview, prepare some practise examples for yourself based off what ASA are looking for. Get someone you trust to make some questions for you and have them mock interview you. I got my partner to and it made me feel much more comfortable. Oh, and follow STAR! The amount of times they reiterate it...you'd be silly not to.

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Old 3rd July 2024 | 08:05
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Moving to Melbourne to start the course (enroute) this September. Is anyone else making the move from interstate and looking for a flatmate?

Let me know
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Old 6th July 2024 | 03:56
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Originally Posted by RaisinToast
Moving to Melbourne to start the course (enroute) this September. Is anyone else making the move from interstate and looking for a flatmate?

Let me know
Hey, I'll also be moving in September for the enroute course. Havn't got any accomodation yet so I'm interested.
I'd pm you but havn't made enough posts yet. You should able to contact me by email through my profile page though.
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Old 12th July 2024 | 03:46
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Sent you an email through the PPRuNE system a few days back! Let me know if you didn't get it.
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Old 12th July 2024 | 04:31
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Originally Posted by RaisinToast
Moving to Melbourne to start the course (enroute) this September. Is anyone else making the move from interstate and looking for a flatmate?

Let me know
I'll be starting the Tower course in September as well. I'll be sure to look out for a person name RasinToast when I start

I noticed this line in the news about the new enterprise agreement.

"An increase in the Ab Initio Trainee* rate from commencement of employment, to expand the recruit pool and the retention of current Ab Initio Trainees."

Does anyone know what the changed pay will be and if it will come in for us?
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Old 13th July 2024 | 04:11
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New pay scales should be applied within the next couple months assuming FWC approval AsA signing etc

Pay will be $60k from the sign date, 62k 12 months after that and 64k for the final year of the agreement.
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Old 13th July 2024 | 10:13
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Originally Posted by Maggie Island
New pay scales should be applied within the next couple months assuming FWC approval AsA signing etc

Pay will be $60k from the sign date, 62k 12 months after that and 64k for the final year of the agreement.
That's awesome news!

Would you happen to know if the $8k signing bonus mentioned applies to Ab Initio Trainees?
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Old 17th July 2024 | 08:55
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Can anyone please tell about the recruitment time frame? I got an email today to do a stage 2 online assessment.
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Old 17th July 2024 | 12:18
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Originally Posted by RaisinToast
That's awesome news!

Would you happen to know if the $8k signing bonus mentioned applies to Ab Initio Trainees?
You would be if you were an Ab initio on signing, if you started afterwards you wouldn't be eligible, bit of a stitch up.
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Old 18th July 2024 | 19:04
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Originally Posted by Maggie Island
New pay scales should be applied within the next couple months assuming FWC approval AsA signing etc

Pay will be $60k from the sign date, 62k 12 months after that and 64k for the final year of the agreement.
Does anyone have a link to the updated pay scale? I'm a UK based ATCO considering applying and wondered what the difference in pay would be.
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Old 11th August 2024 | 07:41
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Does anyone have a link to the updated pay scale? I'm a UK based ATCO considering applying and wondered what the difference in pay would be.
See page 124.
https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/agr...g2024_2680.pdf
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Old 18th August 2024 | 16:57
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ATC trainee

Hey recently got through to stage 2 testing to become a trainee ATC but unfortunately didn’t pass. Was wondering if anyone knew how high the benchmark is and how hard it is to actually become a trainee? Also wanted to know if any current or previous air traffic controllers would be willing to answer a couple questions I had in private messages. Thanks.
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Old 20th August 2024 | 07:59
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Originally Posted by Ace27
Hey recently got through to stage 2 testing to become a trainee ATC but unfortunately didn’t pass. Was wondering if anyone knew how high the benchmark is and how hard it is to actually become a trainee? Also wanted to know if any current or previous air traffic controllers would be willing to answer a couple questions I had in private messages. Thanks.
It's pretty challenging to pass every step of the application process. Even if you pass everything and receive a job offer, the 12-14 month study is said to be really challenging, not everyone passes it.

After the 2nd stage of online testing there's a live test they do on Microsoft Teams called the interrupt test. If successful, you'll be asked to do a recorded video interview and after that you may be given a date for an in-person assessment centre.
No idea what the testing benchmark is. They don't provide your results, other than a pass or fail.

Anyway, while I’m here, can any active ATCs confirm that different shift times (particularly over night shifts) attract a different hourly pay rate? Or is it a flat rate no matter the time worked?

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Old 21st August 2024 | 22:56
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Originally Posted by Selected8
It's pretty challenging to pass every step of the application process. Even if you pass everything and receive a job offer, the 12-14 month study is said to be really challenging, not everyone passes it.

After the 2nd stage of online testing there's a live test they do on Microsoft Teams called the interrupt test. If successful, you'll be asked to do a recorded video interview and after that you may be given a date for an in-person assessment centre.
No idea what the testing benchmark is. They don't provide your results, other than a pass or fail.

Anyway, while I’m here, can any active ATCs confirm that different shift times (particularly over night shifts) attract a different hourly pay rate? Or is it a flat rate no matter the time worked?
Based off of the ATC EA there is no extra allowance in pay specifically for night shifts or weekends. It is a flat rate unless it is overtime or a public holiday. However, if you are rostered weekends you get 5 weeks leave instead of 4. If you work overnight shifts then you get 6 weeks of leave.
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Old 11th September 2024 | 08:30
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Hiya all!

Total newbie here, but I put in an application today and was doing my research due diligence, here and elsewhere. I noticed though that while the WA Tower ATC Trainee mentions "Comprehensive training provided by our Registered Training Organisation (RTO 5168) in Melbourne or Perth." everywhere I look only talks about the Melbourne location - the listing for the WA role only seems to have gone up yesterday, is this a new thing?

Thanks!
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Old 12th September 2024 | 04:59
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Originally Posted by OsteraToralen
Hiya all!

Total newbie here, but I put in an application today and was doing my research due diligence, here and elsewhere. I noticed though that while the WA Tower ATC Trainee mentions "Comprehensive training provided by our Registered Training Organisation (RTO 5168) in Melbourne or Perth." everywhere I look only talks about the Melbourne location - the listing for the WA role only seems to have gone up yesterday, is this a new thing?

Thanks!
First time I've seen Perth mentioned. I doubt it's a mistake, so maybe they're starting to offer training there!
There was a news post on the ASA website a few weeks ago that said they're looking to hire 80 controllers this financial year alone, which is a lot considering they only hired 120 in the past four years.
It wouldn't surprise me if they're going to run training in Perth to increase their reach?

It's also interesting that it stipulates it's a tower application for Western Australia. Normally the application process isn't specific about en route vs tower & location at all.

Airservices is investing in its workforce with more than 80 ATCs expected to join the organisation this financial year, adding to the 120 new controllers who have joined since 2020.
This quote is from their news post on August 5 titled "First air traffic control trainees graduate from Australia-New Zealand partnership"
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Old 18th September 2024 | 09:18
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I'm up to stage 2 of the online testing but will have to withdraw my application as I just started a new job and unfortunately won't have the time to complete any of the assessments and any other future requirements.

Would this count as an unsuccessful application?

I (stupidly) applied several years ago also, but was ineligible, just wondering if I am striking myself out completely?

What's the best way to withdraw my application? I don't see the option online or a good email to contact.
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Old 20th September 2024 | 02:15
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Originally Posted by seaquester
What's the best way to withdraw my application? I don't see the option online or a good email to contact.
They've changed it recently, unsuccessful applications only count if you went to the assessment centre (I think if you have a look on their website it should confirm this). Just don't do the tests and your application should be unsuccessful
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Old 25th September 2024 | 13:21
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Originally Posted by Anonymous9
They've changed it recently, unsuccessful applications only count if you went to the assessment centre (I think if you have a look on their website it should confirm this). Just don't do the tests and your application should be unsuccessful
I recently completed the stage 2 testing and have been checking my emails about 1000 times a day for an update! Have you received anything yet if you didn't complete the testing? Has anyone who recently completed the stage 2 testing heard anything back?
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Old 27th October 2024 | 03:13
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Hey guys, I went to the ASA assessment centre on 22 October, and received an email asking for Xref references later that same day. Filled those out on 23 October, and haven’t heard a peep since then. Anyone else in the same boat?
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