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Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing

Old 12th Sep 2018, 02:32
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Originally Posted by mikewil View Post
Is there anyone out there from recent assessment days who would like to PM me with how you think you went and any advice for the day etc?

Thanks in advance for any info.
Hi Mike,

Iím sitting it next Monday but by pure coincidence I had dinner with one of the guys who wrote the testing last night. He reckons all youíve got to do is go in there nice and relaxed with a good nights sleep under your belt. You canít train for it and itís designed that way, so good luck!

Regards,
Andrew
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 17:23
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Any news from the people attending the assessment centre this week?
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 03:43
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Hey Vandelayy, I got the boot half way through the day, no interview, so while I was told I'd be contacted to find out whether I was successful, I highly, highly doubt, I'd be given an offer without an interview.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 08:16
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@msage1993

Id love to reply to your message but it says your inbox is full, any chance you could delete a few old ones?
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 08:29
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Also curious to see how others have done this week
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 07:37
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Has anyone from last weeks assessment heard any news yet?
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 03:01
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Applications are open again
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 03:48
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Any news from anyone in regards to what it means whether you are sent home early during the assessment day as opposed to staying longer?

I have heard mixed things of those who are sent home early have failed, but have also heard of many other instances were people felt as though they did badly on the tests/simulations and were asked to stay for an interview (which they felt they went well with) but were still given a "thanks but no thanks" a week or so later?

Anyone have any info on this in regards to the current process? Does going home early strictly means you failed, whereas staying for an interview definitely means you passed?

The Airservices website has recently removed info on the OPQ and the "behavioural based interview" from the recruitment process section. So perhaps things have changed again recently?

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Old 13th Oct 2018, 08:53
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Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen View Post
Any news from anyone in regards to what it means whether you are sent home early during the assessment day as opposed to staying longer?

I have heard mixed things of those who are sent home early have failed, but have also heard of many other instances were people felt as though they did badly on the tests/simulations and were asked to stay for an interview (which they felt they went well with) but were still given a "thanks but no thanks" a week or so later?

Anyone have any info on this in regards to the current process? Does going home early strictly means you failed, whereas staying for an interview definitely means you passed?

The Airservices website has recently removed info on the OPQ and the "behavioural based interview" from the recruitment process section. So perhaps things have changed again recently?
Hey, just wondering was your assessment this week? How did you go?
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 09:52
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Hey Guys,

Just dropping a line to see if anyone has just applied for the latest recruiting round - commencing October '18? I myself have and having read previous posts, most questions seem to be covered. Just interested if anyone else is in the same boat as me.

Cheers
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 03:42
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Originally Posted by Kia Ora 1 View Post
Hey Guys,

Just dropping a line to see if anyone has just applied for the latest recruiting round - commencing October '18? I myself have and having read previous posts, most questions seem to be covered. Just interested if anyone else is in the same boat as me.

Cheers
I have also applied this round
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 08:16
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Originally Posted by DaphB View Post


I have also applied this round
Cool, glad I'm not the only one (although I'm sure there is another 2000 or so lurking around the country)! I've just submitted my application, so hoping to progress to the online testing.

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Old 20th Oct 2018, 01:12
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Is anyone able to share if the online tests are similar to those found on the SHL website? Or perhaps the FAA test is a good one to practice?
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 04:50
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You aren't competing for a position as such - it's all about aptitude and meeting standards and it was often painfully obvious when people had been "pre-briefed" on what to expect. FWIW the testing has also changed recently. The point of the "simulator" wasn't simulating an ATC environment but problem solving - it's easier to demonstrate concepts without extraneous detail.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 03:15
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^^I am not convinced the new testing system is a great indicator of an individual passing ATC training. While the new format may be better than the old "paper-based" format, it seemed more like a cheap Nintendo game that no one played in the 90's rather than a true and tested indicator of someone's true cognitive ability.

Earlier this year the RAAF adopted the same testing system that the RAF and RCAF have been using for the last 20 years to test pilots and ATC's. It has about 20 tests conducted over two 4-hour sessions covering 7 different cognitive domains and can predict to a high level of certainty that the candidate who has met the required standard will successfully complete training.

Like I mentioned, Airservice's new testing system sounds like a massive improvement over the old, but I don't think roughly 40 minutes of testing designed by someone who has only been an ATC for a few years will light the path for the next generation of ATC's.

Feel free to shoot me down for making an opinion on ATC when I have no experience at being one... but simply compare 8 hours of simulated exams, which has 20 years of data and is used by several countries militaries, to a new 40 minute Nintendo game.

Sounds like risky business to me.

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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 01:55
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After attending the assessment centre on the 8th October, I was lucky enough this week to be offered a position as a trainee controller on the en route course starting in March!

Some of the tests etc mentioned previously did come up on the assessment day and of the 10 at the start of the day, I was one of 3 to last the whole day. There were some simulation type tests and some quick response/ multi tasking tests as well as a test like the online one for those who have done it.

As frustrating as it is, you can't and don't want to prepare for them. If you come in having prepared for something you thought was going to come up and it is even slightly different, it will affect you negatively. We were told not to share too much basically because it will affect future applicants detrimentally as opposed to keeping it a secret.

I desperately wanted to know what to expect but going in with no expectations really helped me and you have plenty of practice runs and time to get used to the format and rules etc.

Good luck to all the applicants in the upcoming intake!!
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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 23:01
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Originally Posted by Bradley Chamberlain View Post
After attending the assessment centre on the 8th October, I was lucky enough this week to be offered a position as a trainee controller on the en route course starting in March!!!
Congrats! I'll see you in March Also got into enroute.

I did mine on the 10th. The day was a lot of fun though (well, I thought so!)
Echoing your sentiments - at one stage the entire group on the day were talking, and everybody I spoke to did the same thing many of us are on here for - frantically searching the internet for ANY information on the assessments, only to see the comments of 'you can't prepare for it'. After we had gone through a few tests we all agreed that while those comments were infuriating at the time, they're completely correct. Get a good night sleep and get there early enough that you don't risk getting stuck in traffic and stressing out.

Good luck to everybody applying for the role.
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Old 13th Dec 2018, 10:49
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They reached out in mid-November and did another round of assessment from the June applicants on the Monday (10) and Tuesday (11) just passed; for the March en-route intake. I went on 10/12; there were 7 of us on Monday but I was the only one who made it to the Interview Stage (5 were sent home after lunch) and my references have been contacted by ASA already. I'm not sure how big and how successful the Tuesday group was. Now just waiting for an email/call to advise if I made it through or not.
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Old 13th Dec 2018, 20:22
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Interesting. Well done on getting through so far!
Now, you still need to be patient; even after the reference check it still took some time, might have been a couple of weeks, to receive the notification by email (initially they said end of the week but it took longer). Anxious wait I'm sure!
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Old 18th Dec 2018, 10:59
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Hey guys, congrats to all who have been offered a place on courses next year.

If anyone starting January is looking for a place, there is a room available at a share house 15 mins drive from the airport. You will be sharing with 2 en route students who are about half way through the training.

Feel free to message for more details.
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