Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing

[tobz92_ymen]

for application purposes, if you already hold a Class 1 medical, are you still required to get a Class 3?

[kiwi chick]

You don't need it for application, only if you get accepted for training.

[cadetkid]

tobz,

As far as I am aware if you hold a class 1 you can just ring CASA and request a class 3 be issued as well and they will send it out. I believe someone on my course did this but I could be wrong. Best bet is to ring CASA and ask.

[Zilberfish]

As previously mentioned, if you have a class 1 you do still need a class 3, but it's really no extra hassle. I had a class 1 and just got my DAME to include a class 3 when I had it renewed. You could do it that way if your renewal is coming up (then Airservices will reimburse you for the consultation part of your renewal - winner), otherwise I would agree with cadetkid and see if you can't go straight to the source and talk to CASA.

[anita82]

Congrats Ruth!
That was really fast I think, your assessment centre was like a week ago? I read that they tell you whether you passed it up to 2 months after the assessment centre?
Good job, you've almost done it!

[stevep64]

That's new. They don't usually contact you to tell you you've passed the assessment. Usually the first thing you know is when they contact you with an offer, or your referee tells you they've been contacted.

Congratulations anyway The ref check is just a formality.

[shack87]

Just found out that my enroute course starting january 7th has been cancelled and will now be starting Feb 25th. spoke with Caroline today and she wasnt 100% sure what was happening, but mentioned something about a potential audit.
does anyone know if this is purely the case that they will need a room for a month or so to conduct their business?
any insight would be appreciated.

[anita82]

I just got an invitation for an assessment centre in Brisbane - between 26 and 28 Nov. I booked 26th (Monday) together with flights and a hostel for 3 days!
I'm not too nervous yet, hopefully I'll keep calm till the date

[kiwi chick]

Shack, were you starting in Brisbane or Melbourne?

Ruth, well done, what Steve said is normally correct - I got rung to ask about my referees, and when I said "does this mean it's good news?" all I got from Wathsala was "please we just ask that you wait until you get a formal reply from us"... !! IT WAS AGONISING!!

[Hempy]

Originally Posted by kiwi chick

!! IT WAS AGONISING!!

[kiwi chick]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

That picture is going on my Facebook page

[Nautilus Blue]

Is anyone able to provide an example of what an average working week looks like for an ATC? Enroute if possible. Is it a rotating roster between mornings, afternoon and night shifts?

Unfortunately rosters vary a lot from group to group, because they are written around traffic patterns, so there is no typical en-route roster pattern. On some rosters the shifts vary over a 6 to 18 week cycle, so there isn't even a typical "week" on a groups roster.

Having said that they are all designed with FRMS11 (fatigue "management") and POR (principals of rostering), so there are recurring themes. A shift cycle will be between 3 to 6 shifts, followed by 1 to 3 days off, the another 3 to 6 shifts (but not necessarily the same ones as last time) etc. Usually the first shifts will be mornings, each subsequent shift usually starting later. Alternatively the may be all mornings, or all afternoons etc. This is a simplification though.

Shift swaps are possible, but difficult. The swapped shift has to comply with POR and usually FRMS11, as does the shift of the other person, and of course you have to find someone willing to swap.

How much notice is required if you need a day off?

Depends on why you "need". If its a family funeral or a sick child or your house just burnt down etc then there are various provisions, (carers leave, special leave, bereavement leave etc.) so you just give as much notice as possible, sometimes its none.

If you just "want", then you are probably out of luck. You will get between 4 and 6 weeks recreation leave a year, but it need to be requested 14 months in advance, and even then you won't necessarily get it. Something to consider very strongly before going into this job. You will be working most Christmases, New Years, weekends, partners birthdays, kids sports days. club get togethers etc. On the other hand, if you are on a morning, you have most of the afternoon/evening off and vice versa, so it can work out.

[5miles]

Just found out that my enroute course starting january 7th has been cancelled and will now be starting Feb 25th

That doesn't sound like a cancellation, just delayed.

The academy is going through its RTO re-accreditation process and this will be absorbing a lot of instructor resources for the next few months.

[shack87]

well if we must get technical, enroute course 76 in melbourne has been cancelled and all participants will be placed on subsequent courses, and I will be on Enroute 78

[cnkkale]

airservices australia

hi i'm an experienced air traffic controller from europe. is there anyone who knows how long does the atc course take for experienced air traffic controllers in australia ? and how much does an experienced air traffic controller earn per year ? thank you

[jcr737]

Pay scale

Hi cnkkale,

Current pay scale as of November 2012:

PayScale Australia - Air Traffic Controller Salary, Average Salaries

Exchange rate Sunday 18th Nov. AUS $1.00 = EUR 0.811524

Looking for experienced ATC now, but applications close today. (2300hrs 18/11/2012).

Job details|Airservices

jcr737

[cnkkale]

thanks

hi jcr737, thank you for your help

[polair911]

Anyone who atteneded the assessment centre (Brisbane) in October here?? I am still waiting for my feedback

[wolfram76]

Hi,
I am an ATC from Europe.I have just completed the application online for this last recruiting .
I hace received this mail:

"The next steps in the recruitment process are the Training Needs Analysis (TNA) / Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL) and the online skills testing. You are required to undertake and pass the online testing for your application to continue to progress."

Anyone now about this Online testing,TNA and RPL?

Thanks

[skyfall78]

asking

any asian controller in airservices australia?