DFS-Germany Direct Entry Atco-Info please
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two-bedroom appartment will easily cost you around 800€,
There is no too much high unit performance rate with low level salaries.
If you add BigMac theory I do not believe that anyone will find this offer competitive.
Job in Germany may be interesting for some people but salary sholdn't be primary reason.
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Housing
where do controllers stay? How far is that from Langen? Any idea when they are starting the course? Will the offer provides a dceent lifestyle from German standard or is it not enough? I have my wife and a kid to accompany. How to find apartment on internet?
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JatSet,
the pay after full validation will give you a decent lifestyle. The controllers working at Langen live all over the place. Some live in ATC City (Langen) and commute by bike, others prefer to live pretty far away (because it IS nicer) and travel by car or train. Driving is usually no problem, there are no jams at six in the morning or nine in the evening.
If you want to have a look at houses / appartments try www.immobilienscout24.de .
Cheers,
eagleflyer
If you want to have a look at houses / appartments try www.immobilienscout24.de .
Cheers,
eagleflyer
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Thanks
Thanks a lot Eagle flyer. What about other issues that one may encounter after shifting to Gremany. How are the controller reacting to it-- with suspicious or welcome or just indiffirent. i dont want to look like aliens. I think Langen sud be good place to live.
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Search and Rescue
Hi everyone,
It looks everyone has forgotten this thread and DFS has forgotten its candidates. It is interesting to see that DFS is still advertising for direct entries in flight global.
I am looking for help from the people at Langen. The problem is that I succcessfully completed the assessment at Langen. Thereafter I was told that security clearance will take approx 2-3 months. Despite lots of reminders it has been nine months and I am yet to hear from DFS. It appears to me that either my case is lost between two governments. But what really worries me is that I checked from Authorities/German Embassy at my place and they have not received any request for my security verification.My requests to the HR are simply stonewalled that they cant to anything in this regard.
Did anyone joined at DFS at Langen? I have heard few joined at Karlsruhe. The uncertainity is very furstrating
PLEASE ASSIST
It looks everyone has forgotten this thread and DFS has forgotten its candidates. It is interesting to see that DFS is still advertising for direct entries in flight global.
I am looking for help from the people at Langen. The problem is that I succcessfully completed the assessment at Langen. Thereafter I was told that security clearance will take approx 2-3 months. Despite lots of reminders it has been nine months and I am yet to hear from DFS. It appears to me that either my case is lost between two governments. But what really worries me is that I checked from Authorities/German Embassy at my place and they have not received any request for my security verification.My requests to the HR are simply stonewalled that they cant to anything in this regard.
Did anyone joined at DFS at Langen? I have heard few joined at Karlsruhe. The uncertainity is very furstrating
PLEASE ASSIST
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What about TWR controller?
Has anyone been offered a job as TWR only? I can only see on this thread posts about radar positions. Anyway, for those who have been offered a contract and who have a family, did all of you get german courses for your whole family paid for by DFS? Also, what about the time you need to spend at the academy, please tell me that all lessons are in english.
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TWR controller
I have also been offered a job as a TWR controller with DFS to start at the Academy in January. I´m supposed to reach level 4 German before that time. My understanding is that the course will be taught in German language and not in English 
. so I should go practice my German 
.. Toad PM me if you have any further questions, are you scheduled for same course ?
. so I should go practice my German .. Toad PM me if you have any further questions, are you scheduled for same course ?
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Language at DFS academy
Hi all,
I'm still in for the Radar Approach/Area course, in Langen, probably only in may or june 2010 due to commitments to my current employer.
I was wondering though, can anybody confirm the language spoken in classes ? I thought it was English, and that you'd have to learn German while studying there. I'm brushing up my German already, but you got me wondering now.
Anybody currently in Langen or already training in the centers who can confrm this ?
Thanks boys and girls.
I'm still in for the Radar Approach/Area course, in Langen, probably only in may or june 2010 due to commitments to my current employer.
I was wondering though, can anybody confirm the language spoken in classes ? I thought it was English, and that you'd have to learn German while studying there. I'm brushing up my German already, but you got me wondering now.
Anybody currently in Langen or already training in the centers who can confrm this ?
Thanks boys and girls.
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Lessons are supposed to be taught in English. If you are a native English speaker this will happen and you will most likely be grouped with 2 or 3 others on the course. There are a couple of RE guys going thorugh at the moment and they have lessons taught in English, sim in English and are being given an intensive German language course. You will have 14 months (depending on whta your contract says) to acquire Level 4 German.
There are a number of expats as instructors at the Academy now so all will be good and the German guys are a great bunch who will teach in English!!
Lessons are supposed to be taught in English. If you are a native English speaker this will happen and you will most likely be grouped with 2 or 3 others on the course. There are a couple of RE guys going thorugh at the moment and they have lessons taught in English, sim in English and are being given an intensive German language course. You will have 14 months (depending on whta your contract says) to acquire Level 4 German.
There are a number of expats as instructors at the Academy now so all will be good and the German guys are a great bunch who will teach in English!!
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Language requirements
I am also joining DFS and as far as I understand for ATCOs working lower airspace and Tower obviously, where the likelyhood of getting VFR pilots who can only speak German is high, applicants need to achieve level 3 before joining and then level 4 at validation stage.
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Anyone tell me what is the sallary while you are in testing or schooling for area controller and how long does it take you to become a full status worker?Controller from eastern europe.Thanks
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about TWR jobs
Hello to all of you!
I would like to ask if someone knows what is the situation in Germany about working at TWR, because I'm an ATCo with APP/TWR license, but without radar license and that's why I'm really interested ( at least for the moment, till I'll get a radar license, maybe in Germany, why not? if it's possible ) about Tower situation in the beautiful Germany ( I have an uncle in Dusseldorf and visited Germany for a couple of times ). I am almost 30 years old and almost 3 years experince as an ATCO, open-minded to learn and to progress.
Thanks in advance for any good helpful advice!
I would like to ask if someone knows what is the situation in Germany about working at TWR, because I'm an ATCo with APP/TWR license, but without radar license and that's why I'm really interested ( at least for the moment, till I'll get a radar license, maybe in Germany, why not? if it's possible ) about Tower situation in the beautiful Germany ( I have an uncle in Dusseldorf and visited Germany for a couple of times ). I am almost 30 years old and almost 3 years experince as an ATCO, open-minded to learn and to progress.
Thanks in advance for any good helpful advice!
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Hello everyone!
Bumping this thread a bit since i recently got interested in working for DFS. The add in flightglobal is gone but the same info is found on the DFS homepage. Does anyone know what the situation is like? Still haven't heard a word in reply (two weeks and counting).
Anyone making a direct-entry lately?
Bumping this thread a bit since i recently got interested in working for DFS. The add in flightglobal is gone but the same info is found on the DFS homepage. Does anyone know what the situation is like? Still haven't heard a word in reply (two weeks and counting).
Anyone making a direct-entry lately?
