Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Reload this Page >

Starting at DFS in JUNE

Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Starting at DFS in JUNE

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 17th Mar 2009, 06:46
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Starting at DFS in JUNE

I will be starting at DFS in June as a direct entry Controller. My partner and I will be arriving on the 16th of May.

If anyone is in the same boat, PM me. It would be great to know someone before we rock up. Also, if anyone has any hints about german stuff, internet, houses, cars, please post.

Mick
mikk_13 is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2009, 07:10
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hamburg
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Where are you going to live?
Approach/Center Controller?
HHI OPS is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2009, 12:13
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I'll be heading to Karlsruhe.
mikk_13 is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2009, 18:12
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hamburg
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Congratulations,

Rhein Radar is a great place to work
HHI OPS is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2009, 23:17
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: here
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Karlsruhe also, moving in October! I look forward to hearing how it goes for you...
tesox is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2009, 13:02
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: stumbled in a TWR
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rhein Radar is a great place to work
probably the best....?
spike_scramble is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2009, 16:03
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: LACC - the Premier Centre
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've heard the sofas are cheap at DFS.
rumouroid is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2009, 17:46
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Myself and my partner will be shipping out to Karlsruhe in October too. Not that that's much use to you, but it seems that there's gonna be a fair few new folks around.
INCA9 is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2009, 18:17
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: At work!!!
Age: 41
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Some info!!!

I was thinking about possibly putting in for this. Can you guys possibly PM me with your quals/experience to see if i stand even a chance!!!

Thanx. I really would appreciate it!!!

PN
elcrusoe is offline  
Old 20th Mar 2009, 05:55
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Telephone Interview

I have a telephone interview with DFS next week. Does anyone know what I should expect? Any tips from those headed out on courses? I'm hoping to work in Munich
ComTransfer is offline  
Old 20th Mar 2009, 16:40
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 52
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
DFS is not going ask u where do u prefer to work ,for example they offered me to work in Bremen.
Something more:
First 6 months 36k euro (simulator)
Next 8 months 60k euro (training whit OJTI)
And may be after that 100k.
I'm experienced ATC and I have been an area controller for 12 years and I have an experience whit 3 (not whit 1) Advanced operating systems
The tax in Germany is 42%. after all of that my answer was :"No tnx"
prascho is offline  
Old 20th Mar 2009, 18:25
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: here
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Prascho,
Its not nearly as bad as you are stating. You are neglecting to add the time off, benefits, moving allowances, training allowances, retirement package, recouperation vacation every 3 years, education allowances for children...Id rather pay 42% tax on the DFS salary than 10% on the average Bulgarian income.
tesox is offline  
Old 21st Mar 2009, 09:36
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 52
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Tnx mate! Now I know why the German ATCs are going to work at Maastricht where they pay 0% tax and South Africa (There is a "New arrival " from Bremen) and don't stay in Germany to pay 42% tax.
I don't see why have some1 else to pay for something if I'm able to pay by myself but it's my point of view.

Last edited by prascho; 21st Mar 2009 at 12:36.
prascho is offline  
Old 21st Mar 2009, 15:20
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: here
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sure my friend
tesox is offline  
Old 6th Apr 2009, 14:51
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Death Star, 6th floor
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi Tesox,
I have been offered a job also by DFS to start in Jnauary but I need to achieve level 4 ICAO in German. So head down in the books!! Anyway could you clarify what the children education allowance is all about as it did not come up during the interview.
Supertoad is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2009, 06:04
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Back on The Island.
Posts: 480
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Let's just get this straight ... 'Maastricht' is NOT on 0% tax.
zed3 is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2009, 11:37
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: here
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unfortunately I am not at liberty to discuss my specific negotiations with the DFS.

Allowances are, as I understand, unit specific and negotiable within reason. If you carefully consider your needs with regards to the relocation, then as the responsible head of house, you can reasonably negotiate the relative aid that the DFS can provide.

capite?

gutes Glück mit Ihrem Deutschen
tesox is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2009, 11:39
  #18 (permalink)  

Avoid imitations
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
Posts: 14,573
Received 422 Likes on 222 Posts
Hope you have fun selling those sofas. (Sale ends soon).
ShyTorque is online now  
Old 9th Apr 2009, 08:36
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 52
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Stuttgart Tower will be on strike this afternoon and only handle 25 percent of it's usual movements. This was announced by GdF union, DFS ATC and the airport. Just this afternoon from four to ten.

German language source:
Towerlotsen in Stuttgart wollen am Montag streiken - FLUG REVUE

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

R u sure guys ,where r u going?????
prascho is offline  
Old 9th Apr 2009, 08:56
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Age: 38
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
prascho - you mentioned that there was 0% tax if you worked at Maastricht. I thought that if you worked there you were subject to Netherland tax laws? Can you please clarify....

Thanks,

Paul
bartkobe is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.