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Old 16th Jan 2008, 13:36
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guess I'm getting old, memory isn't as good as it was.....


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Old 20th Jan 2008, 12:14
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Does anyone got any reply to the aplication? I know there has been only one week but still maybe they reply to someone? (Excluding the first reply that we should be patient and wait).
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Still not heard anything. I see they've advertised in Flight again this week. Anybody know what's going on?
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So is it true that Karlsruhe need in excess of 20 controllers or is someone telling me porky pies??????
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 23:00
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I think they´ll take everybody who is managing to get through the selection procedure. But I do not have any clue what this procedure will look like and how far the process of selection already had developed.

But: IMHO we actually need more than 20!
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Old 5th Feb 2008, 03:45
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we actually need more than 20!
Enroute or Approach?
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Old 5th Feb 2008, 09:01
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karlrsruhe is only UAC
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Well, my friend... I really like Munich, you guys in Munich ACC and I also like the way we use to work together. So I would not be scared to move "up" there, and honestly I'm thinking about working somewhere else. Just for have some experience abroad.
You know, once with the European Licence would be great having the chance to transfer from a Country to another... also for a definite time and then choose if remain or coming back.
I'd like to work in Germany (but only if it's in Munich or Karlsruhe) otherwise try to apply for Maastricht.
I mean, Padova (or better, Abano Terme... where the ACC is located) is a really great place to live with really nice people: also at work. But... I'm still young without serious relationship so why do I have to stay where I am if someone give me the chance to improve myself, meet other people, learn other languages...??
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Interesting or not but DFS "refreshes" adv. on flightglobal yesterday.Now the first one on the list.
Since nobody has received further info from DFS except confirmation what kind of message is that? HRD of DFS is not satisfied with current applicants and now they are looking for better CVs or it is just bad coordination between departments?
Also my spies told me that DFS is looking for 200 ATCOs.
Anyone to confirm or explain what is going on.
Just curious!
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Old 8th Feb 2008, 08:42
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Latest news from Karlsruhe UAC:

rumour says Karlsruhe has around 60 applicants from all over (even China or New Zealand) - most of them will be invited to an interview soon. And there's a good chance, they will hire at least 20.

And by the way, you don't necessarily need to speak German to come along. About 90% of the people speak English to some extent, French is spoken by half of them. There's even a European School with Dutch, English, French, German and Italian sections. For the French native speakers, the Alsace is only across the River Rhine (around 30 minutes by car).

Hope to see some of you very soon...
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Old 9th Feb 2008, 11:18
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To be more precise APPROACH positions not ACC. Who cares about ACC?
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he Alsace is only across the River Rhine (around 30 minutes by car).
If it across river directly it gives me the next calculation:
-With average speed limitation of 40/60 kph at bridges it means that bridge is at least 20 km wide.
Correct me if I wrong but the longest river bridge in Europe is bridge over river in Lisbon . Only 18 km. So your bridge is 2 km wider at least.
Or you have to swim each time when going to France!
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Old 9th Feb 2008, 13:07
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Oh trying to be funny - are you?!
Over here we have things called traffic-lights....and lots of traffic!
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Old 9th Feb 2008, 16:34
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Of course ,mate!
This corner of Germany is very nice for living/working and lot of other things and places are within "walking" distance.
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Old 9th Feb 2008, 23:41
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It would be nice to work in a civilised nation, with a society not just an economy.

I was just going to resign my expert post, but I might just go the whole hog.
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 14:48
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Any updates???

Well its seems to me that this thread has died down a little so here we go just going to bring it back to life!!!!

Has anyone heard back from DFS yet? Or anybody working for the moment at Rhine radar here words or any news? I read they might invite applicants for the interview proces.....any news on that by the way.

And just a personal question how does the facility look like? Any chance it looks like Langen because i visited Langen awhile back before they included EDDF app in the mix and well i was really impressed by the equipment and layout. Really nice stuff.

My fiancee is german so an oppurtunity like this to get back over there would be amazing. I loved my time there and well the southwest is just a great place to be so close to everything.

Well life is restored to the thread!!!!!
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 19:30
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I also put in an application a couple of weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet. Is there anyone in the know able to let us know what is happening with the applications? I know these things take time but the wait can be agonising at times!

There are about 10 aussies who have put applications in so hopefully a few of us can get over there.

What is the golf like around Karlsruhe? It seems like there are a few nice courses, do many of the controllers play?

Thanks

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Old 17th Feb 2008, 12:40
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Why is everybody in this forum so sure of ending up in Karlsruhe? As far as I know, the ACCs in Munich and Langen need "fresh meat", too.
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Old 17th Feb 2008, 14:37
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Because Karlsruhe (Rhein Radar) is Upper Airspace, therefore you don't need any German language skills. In the Lower Airspace (Munich and Langen, both have an approach as well) basic german language is (almost) mandatory, since our VFR Flyers may call in in German to cross some protected airspace or to drop some guys with a chute....

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Old 17th Feb 2008, 15:40
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Well from my knowledge just like Saigor said german is a requirement fro all ACC type facilities in Germany. The only exception i could see would be the major airports but well then again i'm not quite aware of the operations but everytime i listened to Fra app it was most of the time in English but that is just the times i was able to listen.

However when you think of rhine radar well overall it is just like eurocontrol. All Eu members can apply since all traffic is conducted in the english language which makes things easier to find candidates.

So therefore of course when DFS opened slots for foreign controllers well everybody assumes that the placement will be in Karlsruhe or maybe Bremen (i think that is were the north UAC is right???).

But overall just by respect i believe that who ever applied for this oppurtunity should take in consideration that down the road an intensive class in German might be a good idea. It would be in my case....plus it would make the lady happy hehe
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