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Old 17th Dec 2007, 03:19
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Wink NATS Testing Matrials

Anyone knows websites which provides more information about Spatial Reasoning Test ???? apart from www.shl.com or http://www.psychometric-success.com/ .

Any other site ??? plz help.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 10:44
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 12:39
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You are not the only one chaudhrysahab,

Any use of chasing for a feed back? Or they do not provide feed back for 1 Stage applicants?

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 16:54
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 16:58
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Angry basic checking

Yes, today on 17-12-07 they given me some feedback, i scored 55 in basic checking and requred was 65 where i failed.
Rest was passed.
They also told me that the scoring was overall not with any specific section for passing the test so it means you mus have to get atleast 65 marks on each section to pass the exam but still thats my opinion so it is not compulsry it may be right...!

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 17:36
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Had an email from NATS HR this afternoon and I failed on the damn personality questionnaire . I know they say they don't give feedback but there must be some sort of an indication of where I tripped up surely? They say to be 100% honest in your answers but there must be something else to it. If not then presumably I'd fail the personality questionnaire every time I took it.

May give HR a call tomorrow to see if I can gather any information. I'd rather be told that I didn't get through the aptitude tests since at least then you have a rough idea of where to brush up, but I'm completely lost as to what I should do about this questionnaire .

Let's hope I can reapply in 12 months and be more successful then.
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They say to be 100% honest in your answers but there must be something else to it. If not then presumably I'd fail the personality questionnaire every time I took it.
To be blunt, yes. I'm sorry that you didn't succeed, but there'd be no point in a personality testing stage if it wasn't consistent.

but I'm completely lost as to what I should do about this questionnaire .
I'm afraid there's not much you can do. If you retake it, and put down what you think we want to see, then you will get found out.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 17:58
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They say to be 100% honest in your answers but there must be something else to it. If not then presumably I'd fail the personality questionnaire every time I took it.
To add to what Gonzo said, I followed everyones advice here and answered it 100% honestly. Through the test there was so much temptation to click what you think they want from you; but I did remain honest. At times I was almost cringeing when clicking the answer, "this is going to make me look really really bad". But I did get through, so the honesty thing its the best advice.

Sorry you didn't pass, it must be so frustrating knowing it was on the personality questionnaire.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 20:22
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Yep, the personality questionnaires are all to do with correlation. I think over the whole process you do about 4 or 5, normally all asking similar things, just worded differently. If you answer one question with one answer, and then another similar question with a completely different answer, then this will flag up as an inconsistency. One or two inconsistencies are fine, but a lot will flag up something to HR.

In fact, I apparently had some inconsistencies, and they actually asked me straight out in the stage 3 interview about it, so obviously it wasn't bad enough to fail me there and then, but still serious enough to question me about it. I explained myself (it was something about "do I look to the future" or something) and I found it much easier talking myself than picking a multi choice answer.

So answer honestly, yes, and you should be fine as all your answers will usually match....The worst you can do is think what they want, because it really doesn't work like that. Me and this other girl put completely opposite answers to one another, and we both got through. I think there's a great emphasis on consistency, rather than actual answer.

(Though obviously, if you answer things like "no I never exercise", "I like sitting on my bum all day every day eating pies", "I don't like working" and "I hate talking to people", then that ain't going to help. But in all honestly, I guess those personalities don't generally try to join NATS as ATCOs, or do they?!)
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 20:25
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Thanks for all the advice folks. I think my best option is to try again in 12 months and simply give the questionnaire another go, with a 100% honest approach should I get to that stage again.

Mixmastermike, I was referring to the "Occupational Personality Questionnaire". There was a "Learning Styles" questionnaire on the test day, however I was led to believe that it was not assessed. I may be wrong, but I don't believe the responses on the OPQ had to correlate to the learning styles questionnaire, however I suppose with full honesty they should!

Thanks again folks .

EDIT: Looks like the questionnaire responses are correlated - thanks for the info.
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I'd be interested to know as well info on spatial reasoning tests. I'd like a practice book of the cubes but can't seem to find one I can find aptitude books with a couple of examples but nothing specific to it.
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Your private messages - top right of this page.

Vic154 - check yours too
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Cool

65 percent for basic checking only..... not sure for any other!
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 22:26
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On a different note, within the application form (I'm quite behind most of you above me!) do HR take much notice of the detail you write such as 'why did you apply' etc. I don't want to waste time if its not necessary and will say it if I get to interview anyway?
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thanks for help........

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Old 18th Dec 2007, 00:17
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timhan0,

I don't want to waste time if its not necessary and will say it if I get to interview anyway?
You should make every effort to put in 100% where you can.

If you are successful and get to the college, 100% effort is required 100% of the time.

Just ask the many people who get chopped from various courses.

Good luck with the rest of your application.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 00:29
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Hello everyone!

I've just completed the online personality questionnaire after passing the 1st stage tests...am I right in thinking this part needs to be passed before you are invited to the 2nd stage? It would make total sense if that is the case. I gave my honest answers but took awhile to do so - some questions I found really hard to answer when there was not much difference between what I felt least/most about myself.

Must say this thread has been most helpful. I want to prepare as much as I can as haven't been in a interview environment for something this important for a long time so it's great to see the hints and tips - thanks guys and gals! - fingers crossed it comes in useful if I pass this personality questionnaire.

Just wanted to add a little something to tomharrison (sp?) about not passing it - don't get too down about it. At the end of the day this whole process is about making sure you are right for the job and the job is right for you. That can be hard to accept if you really want the job and don't ever see yourself doing anything else, but these people are experienced in finding the right people for the right job and visa versa.

Good luck to those waiting to hear.

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Old 18th Dec 2007, 11:45
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Further to my last post, I just found out I've got through to the 2nd stage (quiet yippee - don't want to rub people's faces in it who haven't got through).

So far so good...but I still have the rest to go so I think the apprehension I'm feeling is not only justified but probably healthy too. I'm off to start this revision!

But I'm sure I'll be back lol!
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 13:40
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I attended stage 1 on monday 10th, had an email yesterday asking me to do the occupational personality questionnaire then received a further email this morning asking me along to the 2nd stage so all in all, 6/7 working days. That doesn't mean its the same for everyone though...I'm sure they have plenty of people to work through.

You still not heard anything mixmastermike?
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 14:02
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You can't prep for the next questionnaire either! When did you have your stage 1?
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