Anybody work in Cardiff ATC
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If any of you do work in the cardiff CTA it would be nice to get some info on whats happening with the delayed new airspace rules and the expanding of the controled airspace. Im a PPL ya see
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In the CAA's news announcement of this (see: http://tinyurl.com/hvucb) I note the following:
Now surely the powers that be have known about the desire to make these airspace changes for some time, so wouldn't it be sensible to apply changes near the end of life of a chart (at least the 1:500k one) and not have to wait at least six months for amended charts to be available?
I'm all for not having to constantly buy new charts but it seems to me that a bit of co-ordination here would be more sensible.
Just my 2p worth!
Paul.
Pilots should note that 1:500000 Aeronautical Chart ‘Southern England and Wales’ (Sheet 2171CD) Edition 32 was published on 16 March 2006 and does not incorporate the changes in the AIC. Industry will be informed in due course of the chart amendment arrangements prior to the publication of Edition 33.
The revised airspace will be depicted on 1:250000 Aeronautical Charts 'England South' (Sheet 8) and 'The West and South Wales' (Sheet 7) when the current editions are replaced in February and August 2007 respectively.
The revised airspace will be depicted on 1:250000 Aeronautical Charts 'England South' (Sheet 8) and 'The West and South Wales' (Sheet 7) when the current editions are replaced in February and August 2007 respectively.
I'm all for not having to constantly buy new charts but it seems to me that a bit of co-ordination here would be more sensible.
Just my 2p worth!
Paul.

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Originally Posted by paulthornton
I'm all for not having to constantly buy new charts but it seems to me that a bit of co-ordination here would be more sensible.
Just my 2p worth!
Paul.
Just my 2p worth!
Paul.
From the CAA web site...
1:500,000 Southern England & Wales – Edition 32A
11 July 2006
Since the publication of Edition 32 of the Southern England and Wales 1:500,000 chart in March 2006, the CAA has approved and implemented a number of significant airspace changes. The CAA has therefore decided to issue a new version of the chart, as Edition 32A, with an effective date of 31 Aug 2006 (AIRAC 9/06).
The issue of this chart will not affect the 2007 chart publication schedule, as shown on the CAA website, and is in addition to the usual means of promulgating airspace changes such as AIC’s and NOTAM. The current Frequency Reference Card will remain in circulation and should be used in conjunction with this new chart.
Edition 32A will be available via the usual Chart Stockists.
Important note: CAA will not be re-issuing any of the 1:250,000 series charts that cover Southern England and Wales. Users of these charts should consult www.caa.co.uk/charts and the latest NOTAM for chart amendments. These charts will eventually be re-issued on the scheduled dates as currently published.
11 July 2006
Since the publication of Edition 32 of the Southern England and Wales 1:500,000 chart in March 2006, the CAA has approved and implemented a number of significant airspace changes. The CAA has therefore decided to issue a new version of the chart, as Edition 32A, with an effective date of 31 Aug 2006 (AIRAC 9/06).
The issue of this chart will not affect the 2007 chart publication schedule, as shown on the CAA website, and is in addition to the usual means of promulgating airspace changes such as AIC’s and NOTAM. The current Frequency Reference Card will remain in circulation and should be used in conjunction with this new chart.
Edition 32A will be available via the usual Chart Stockists.
Important note: CAA will not be re-issuing any of the 1:250,000 series charts that cover Southern England and Wales. Users of these charts should consult www.caa.co.uk/charts and the latest NOTAM for chart amendments. These charts will eventually be re-issued on the scheduled dates as currently published.
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Just to add a little bit more about charts.
Detailed local charts and procedures for Cardiff and Bristol will be published on the AIS website (Aeronautical Information Services) in about 7 to 10 days ie before the end of July.
www.ais.org.uk then look under UK AIP, then under 28 day advance information
Detailed local charts and procedures for Cardiff and Bristol will be published on the AIS website (Aeronautical Information Services) in about 7 to 10 days ie before the end of July.
www.ais.org.uk then look under UK AIP, then under 28 day advance information
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From: UK - Wet side of the Severn Bridge
Ed32A Southern England & Wales
I spoke to to AFE at Manchester yesterday enquiring as to when we (NATS Cardiff) could expect to receive the new chart - but no timescale yet.
Hopefully it will be available mid August.
Hopefully it will be available mid August.
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Links to map and details of meeting in new thread over in Private Flying.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235719
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235719
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From: Peoples' Democratic Republic of Wurzelsetshire
Originally Posted by ATCO1987
Noisy, thats a bit cheeky! How do you fancy entering work via a tunnel rather than an archway next time?
Now, back to the subject at hand, who are these people who claim to "work" at Cardiff!?
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Hey Standard noise, stop bashing cardiff. Remeber we all work for NATS. You are obviously thinking like old NATS. Perhaps you should come over to Cardiff on a visit. We often visit your unit, it is very worth while - our two units are the best in NATS and lets keep it that way. We have been max'ed out recently recording upto 50 movments per hour through the Cardiff sector (for most of the day) - interesting work but very busy. Before you say, that 50 is overflights, GD, TE,BJ, DX, LARS and FH - not just Bristol flights. Good luck for the summer it's great fun working together so far lets keep it that way.





. The tunnel just needs to be fed several times a day, just like yourself