Aer Lingus Future Pilot Programme 2018

[EdgeUp]

well, as I haven't received my call so far, they cannot be done yet :p (on the other hand, such a statement is more often than not quickly followed by a PFO)

[Eraclito]

Same for me...

Anyone can enlighten us about the assessment day? (exercices, etc)

Thanks a lot


Hi 737ng, for what I know, there will be a GROUP assessment with a psychologist. A "case study" (i.e. the most popular, everyone get lost on an island) where everyone has to give its own opinion/point of view. A psychologist will observe you, noticing if you speak first , last , and so on. I did it once but in another sector - Finance in E&Y - . Another one could be that you are part of a group Vs another group, and you will have to work with your team to find a good solution of a certain problem/issue. In this scenario they are going to note your ability to work in a group and which role are you going to play (for instance, if you are going to be the "speaker" , the one who speak on behalf of your group, etc...). --> the aim is to find someone who is nice to work with, competent and professional.

For the INDIVIDUAL assessment unfortunately I do not have a direct experience in the aviation sector, but again a psychologist (probably with a captain) will evaluate/confirm your personality traits, motivation and if you are good fit for the company. just be honest and you will be fine :)

hope this helps.

[372VK]

If you have not had the call yet stay positive. I have been reading this thread since the beginning and was starting to think I had missed out but then I got the call this afternoon. Looking at the previous thread some people got called very late so there is still hope for all.

Good luck everyone!!!

[Jaair]

Is the Leaving Certificate (or equivalent) required at the assessment if you have a Uni degree certificate? If so, would we have to bring the certificates for both A Levels and GCSEs? Looking for these will be interesting :O

[IrishB1]

Is the Leaving Certificate (or equivalent) required at the assessment if you have a Uni degree certificate? If so, would we have to bring the certificates for both A Levels and GCSEs? Looking for these will be interesting :O

I'd imagine the degree would suffice but to be certain it may be advisable to contact EI to clarify.

[Movieman162]

Got my call this morning although missed it but called back half an hour later for the good news.

I'm in on the 24th, but hoping to be staying at the hotel the nights before and after so for anyone interested in meeting up to network or to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview on the 24th drop me a message.

For those that are still waiting best of luck and don't worry. My online status still says invite to pre-selection online test so from the looks of things there isn't any "tells" to look for just yet.

[Pegasus1504]

I got the call yesterday.

[ana36]

I got the call yesterday.
hi ..can u please tell us what day you will have the meeting in Dublin? thanks..

[Black Pudding]

anyone interested in meeting up to network or to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview on the 24th drop me a message

Bad idea

You have to remember, you're being watched and accessed how you interact with other people on the day. Meeting others the night before may make you subconsciously act in a way that maybe interpreted wrongly. I suggest you just keep yourself to yourself and leave meeting anyone else until on the day at the selection event.

[Movieman162]

Bad idea

You have to remember, you're being watched and accessed how you interact with other people on the day. Meeting others the night before may make you subconsciously act in a way that maybe interpreted wrongly. I suggest you just keep yourself to yourself and leave meeting anyone else until on the day at the selection event.

I'm not doing it so that I can act more comfortably during the excercise, as you hinted towards you need to remain professional during this excercise at all times.

Its simply because in the ones I have done before its 50/50 if they give you name tags or something as such. I for one am terrible at picking up names on the spot but still feel its more professional to be able to call upon team members by name rather than saying "hey you".

[EIFlyer]

Any calls yet today?

[Black Pudding]

Which part of subconsciously act in a way that maybe interpreted wrongly do you not understand.

This even happens during training and checks

I would strong advise you to not meet others prior to doing a group exercise for a selection with an airline.

Those who will be conducting the selection will assume you're all meeting for the first time and your behaviour will be accessed on that.

If you think differently, crack on and good luck.

[Johnnyjd91]

Hi guys,
I have been through the cut e process before with another company (non aviation related). The following is the process used at the assessment centre for that job, maybe this one won't be a million miles away, take from it what you want, it may be of some use:

Group excercise: Divided into teams of 6, set a task of building a lego model, with numerous option and fake currency to buy video instructions on an ipad, a book of instructions, get to view built model for a few moments, the exercise is timed and your a marked as a team on completion time, money left over and accuracy of model. This is only part of it as for every member at the assessment there was a cut e or company rep sitting behind you taking notes on your input/interaction with the group/ability to lead or follow etc.

Role play: you are briefed with a scenario related to the job role, you enter a room with a cut e rep and a company rep and complete the scenario while the company rep pretends to be a client and interacts with you and throws a few curve balls at you to see how you handle the situation whilst the cut e rep marks you.

2 to 1 interview: this one was tricky as the cut e rep conducts a normal job interview covering all the basics and the company rep picks out little bits of info you give and apply them to the job role, but if you change your answer or contradict what you said to the first guy he pulls you on it. Example: I am not a person who deals with confrontation. And you tell the company rep you would be able to deal with a confrontational client or Co worker the cut e guy will refer back to your first statement.
That is basically the mode of the interview where they play you off each other, it's like a minefield but if you stick to your guns you will be fine.

That was the format for the assessment centre for that job in particular, as I said it's probably not going to be identical but this info may help some of ye to prepare.

As for me I'm still waiting.....

[EIFlyer]

guys it does not work in alphabetical order
Hi Officer Kite, you havent had a call yet? You got through this stage last year right? Have you lost hope yet for this?

[aravindsasi]

Guys any updates for today? calls or mails...

[Leonv108]

Guys any updates for today? calls or mails...
none, losing hope now

[Officer Kite]

Hi Officer Kite, you havent had a call yet? You got through this stage last year right? Have you lost hope yet for this?

Not in the race this year, took another opportunity that came up last year ... just offering help where i can based on my previous experience of the programme!

[Officer Kite]

none, losing hope now

Very early days to be losing hope

[EIFlyer]

Not in the race this year, took another opportunity that came up last year ... just offering help where i can based on my previous experience of the programme!
You're very good for keeping the morale up, cheers! Do I remember you saying in a thread (possibly this one) that you got a call weeks after they began calls? Fair play on getting your current role, do you mind me asking what school you went through?

[Eraclito]

Hi guys,
I have been through the cut e process before with another company (non aviation related). The following is the process used at the assessment centre for that job, maybe this one won't be a million miles away, take from it what you want, it may be of some use:

Group excercise: Divided into teams of 6, set a task of building a lego model, with numerous option and fake currency to buy video instructions on an ipad, a book of instructions, get to view built model for a few moments, the exercise is timed and your a marked as a team on completion time, money left over and accuracy of model. This is only part of it as for every member at the assessment there was a cut e or company rep sitting behind you taking notes on your input/interaction with the group/ability to lead or follow etc.

Role play: you are briefed with a scenario related to the job role, you enter a room with a cut e rep and a company rep and complete the scenario while the company rep pretends to be a client and interacts with you and throws a few curve balls at you to see how you handle the situation whilst the cut e rep marks you.

2 to 1 interview: this one was tricky as the cut e rep conducts a normal job interview covering all the basics and the company rep picks out little bits of info you give and apply them to the job role, but if you change your answer or contradict what you said to the first guy he pulls you on it. Example: I am not a person who deals with confrontation. And you tell the company rep you would be able to deal with a confrontational client or Co worker the cut e guy will refer back to your first statement.
That is basically the mode of the interview where they play you off each other, it's like a minefield but if you stick to your guns you will be fine.

That was the format for the assessment centre for that job in particular, as I said it's probably not going to be identical but this info may help some of ye to prepare.

As for me I'm still waiting.....


thanks Johnnyj , useful and informative - not only for the aviation sector...

[Magpie32]

It’s only hearsay but rejection emails are out.

[EIFlyer]

Where’d you hear that? Would it not be a blanket email?

[K13]

It’s only hearsay but rejection emails are out.

Did you hear that from a reputable source?

[ana36]

It’s only hearsay but rejection emails are out.
isn't easier for them to select most of the recipients and send them all in the same time?....the rest of us who did not get called should have received them by now....i don't know...still hoping here ...until this email pops in....

[Magpie32]

Did you hear that from a reputable source?
An unsuccessful applicant.

[PinkPilot13]

Bad idea

You have to remember, you're being watched and accessed how you interact with other people on the day. Meeting others the night before may make you subconsciously act in a way that maybe interpreted wrongly. I suggest you just keep yourself to yourself and leave meeting anyone else until on the day at the selection event.

Nonsence @blackpudding, I’ve worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK & we want to see that candidates have social skills & able to communicate not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!

Good luck to all of you attending & do network away, I assure you networking can only bring success when done in the correct way 😊

[Magpie32]

isn't easier for them to select most of the recipients and send them all in the same time?....the rest of us who did not get called should have received them by now....i don't know...still hoping here ...until this email pops in....
Just like AL are calling successful applicants, it may be the case they are now in a position to send rejection emails to those who definately haven’t made the grade.

For those who haven’t received anything yet (myself being one) there is still hope that the calls aren’t finished yet or we are in the ‘middle pool’ and could still be called at a later date.

[EIFlyer]

An unsuccessful applicant.

so not hearsay. That’s firsthand information.

[Zanie]

Nothing for me either. Neither phone call nor email. Congrats to all of you that have succeed so far!!

[79er]

Hello,

any other rejections received, or phone calls for that matter?

What is Wednesday like? :)

[flyerfa]

I wonder if the unsuccessful emails will have been batched to send at once or?....

Still holding a little bit of hope!

[TandO]

Anyone heard anything today, good or bad?

[JakubEGSC]

nothing so far. no call no email. sadly i am starting slowly writing it off and returning to my original ATPL books lol :)

[lmayo]

The recruitment team replied to my email this morning. they said they are still processing applications and I will get an update over the next few weeks ... so has anyone really got a call yet at all ?

[lmayo]

nothing so far. no call no email. sadly i am starting slowly writing it off and returning to my original ATPL books lol :)
I got mail this morning that they are still processing applications and will here over next few weeks ...

[Cyrusbryce]

Still nada! Can't make my mind up whether this is a good thing or not but the more it goes on the less likely it seems it is good. Anyone have hope for me? If so speak now please! Also a massive congratulations to everyone through to the next stage!

[Black Pudding]

Nonsence @blackpudding, I’ve worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK & we want to see that candidates have social skills & able to communicate not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!

Good luck to all of you attending & do network away, I assure you networking can only bring success when done in the correct way 😊


Read my post again

[Black Pudding]

Nonsence @blackpudding, I’ve worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK & we want to see that candidates have social skills & able to communicate not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!

Good luck to all of you attending & do network away, I assure you networking can only bring success when done in the correct way ��












PinkPilot13,

Thank you for your feedback

I'll be more specific for you

Do you as someone who has worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK think that meeting up the night before with other candidates in order, and I quote "to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview" is a wise thing to do. You call this networking. Would you as a person responsible for recruitment encourage candidates to contact other candidates to do the same thing the night before a selection process involving a group exercise. Do you think it's fair on all candidates to do this. If you knew that some candidates organised to get together the night before in order to get to know each better for the group exercise, would you be happy.

You think Aer Lingus would be happy to know this. I did not think so. They want to see the candidates at the assessment meeting other candidates for the first time. not after an evening together to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview

Where did I mention "not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!"

I always thought a group exercise was to see how you interact with people you have to work with who you have never met before, like when a First Officer meets a Captain for the first time and vice versa. CRM, teamwork, leadership, thinking outside the box etc.

There is only a handful of places on offer and I know for sure, I would be keeping a low profile the night before in a bar socialising with locals, not my competitors. And you may think this is being harsh. Remember, only a handful of positions on offer. You fail, you fail.

Regarding what do I know. I have seen training and test situations where the crew knew each other very well. This lead them to dropping their guard and behaving in a way that was not suitable for the event. I.e. they spoke in a way that was not suitable for the situation and gave the impression of bad CRM. I am guessing that if these Aer Lingus candidates met the night before to get to know each other better for the group exercise, they may drop their guard and behave in a manner that Aer Lingus may take the wrong way. Me, I would not risk it. If I met anyone the night before, yes I would have plenty of beers but under no circumstances would I discuss the selection process at all especially the group exercise. To be honest, I would rather not meet any other candidates until on the day. PinkPilot13, do you get where I'm coming from. So please do let me know your views on my questions to you as you seem to be experienced on this subject.

Yes, networking can only bring success when done in the correct way

[digni]

Hello,

Emailed AL and they said their team are still processing applications and hope to update us over the next week to two.
So i guess there is still hope for those of us who have no reply yet !

[Tango_Hector]

Did anyone write to Aer Lingus to get a status ? Neither call nor email... It's strange isn't it ?

[Leonv108]

Did anyone write to Aer Lingus to get a status ? Neither call nor email... It's strange isn't it ?
no, im just waiting for any news really.

[lmayo]

Did anyone write to Aer Lingus to get a status ? Neither call nor email... It's strange isn't it ?
I wrote to them yesterday reply was I would hear over next few weeks as still processing applications.

[Zanie]

Just got the call at 14.52 GMT time!! So excited. Be patient guys, I know it’s hard to wait not knowing but I bet there’s still a lot of phone calls to be done, keep hope and cross fingers!! Best of luck to all

[PinkPilot13]

PinkPilot13,

Thank you for your feedback

I'll be more specific for you

Do you as someone who has worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK think that meeting up the night before with other candidates in order, and I quote "to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview" is a wise thing to do. You call this networking. Would you as a person responsible for recruitment encourage candidates to contact other candidates to do the same thing the night before a selection process involving a group exercise. Do you think it's fair on all candidates to do this. If you knew that some candidates organised to get together the night before in order to get to know each better for the group exercise, would you be happy.

You think Aer Lingus would be happy to know this. I did not think so. They want to see the candidates at the assessment meeting other candidates for the first time. not after an evening together to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview

Where did I mention "not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!"

I always thought a group exercise was to see how you interact with people you have to work with who you have never met before, like when a First Officer meets a Captain for the first time and vice versa. CRM, teamwork, leadership, thinking outside the box etc.

There is only a handful of places on offer and I know for sure, I would be keeping a low profile the night before in a bar socialising with locals, not my competitors. And you may think this is being harsh. Remember, only a handful of positions on offer. You fail, you fail.

Regarding what do I know. I have seen training and test situations where the crew knew each other very well. This lead them to dropping their guard and behaving in a way that was not suitable for the event. I.e. they spoke in a way that was not suitable for the situation and gave the impression of bad CRM. I am guessing that if these Aer Lingus candidates met the night before to get to know each other better for the group exercise, they may drop their guard and behave in a manner that Aer Lingus may take the wrong way. Me, I would not risk it. If I met anyone the night before, yes I would have plenty of beers but under no circumstances would I discuss the selection process at all especially the group exercise. To be honest, I would rather not meet any other candidates until on the day. PinkPilot13, do you get where I'm coming from. So please do let me know your views on my questions to you as you seem to be experienced on this subject.

Yes, networking can only bring success when done in the correct way





Hi,

Group sessions are to asses various social & interactional traits. You do not have to be meeting for the first time...

No assessor is going to have any issues with you meeting the night before, we used to expect people to have I met over breakfast etc. The ultimate aim for an assessment process is for everyone to be as relaxed as possible. Besides, you can’t possibly predict which group you will be placed in to prepare any kind of outcome!

Just go steady on the beers the night before, I’d suggest no more than 1 max 😊

[ana36]

I wrote to them yesterday reply was I would hear over next few weeks as still processing applications.
on one side is bad as more waiting and means there is high competition here ,,, beyond our imagination...on the other hand waiting is better than a "no ,not this year pal" email......so lets just chill and...wait....good luck to us all !

[852]

It’s strange. EI never really entered by thoughts previously, and indeed I have opportunities to pursue elsewhere, but having done the assessments and all this waiting it’s making me want it more and more! I’m also in the “no call no email” camp. I think my video interview was a bit naff so wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t make the grade. With the competition the standards are understandably high.

[Eraclito]

I wrote to them yesterday reply was I would hear over next few weeks as still processing applications.


Hi Imayo! thanks for sharing this.

Doesn't this sound odd for you? At this stage, I would be expecting the HR team to have a general idea on how to divide the groups of cadets to be interviewed (for instance, in July the TOP performers, in August the "Middle pool" and in September "the spare wheels" :D or Are they seriously catching up with the applications? It does not sound realistic to me....

I have not received the email yet, but I guess we will not get it until the cadets are chosen and the contracts signed off.....

ps apologies for any grammar mistake

[TandO]

Has anyone had an actual rejction email as on confirmed.

[04jharrison]

Got my rejection email today! Can’t say I’m surprised, it was my first application and my interview section was horrendous! Good luck to all those who made it! Hopefully I’ll be joining you in the air soon, though it’s looking like I’ll need a hefty loan to do it! ��

[skoot]

Which part of subconsciously act in a way that maybe interpreted wrongly do you not understand.

This even happens during training and checks

I would strong advise you to not meet others prior to doing a group exercise for a selection with an airline.

Those who will be conducting the selection will assume you're all meeting for the first time and your behaviour will be accessed on that.

If you think differently, crack on and good luck.




Bit rude tbh, sharing your opinion is one thing, demanding it be accepted as fact is another. I done a very similar selection process when I joined the Royal Navy as an officer and we were actively encouraged to meet the other candidates the night before. It will do you no harm at all if you chose to meet others or if you decide to sit in your room by yourself, as long as you have prepared as best you can. Given the nature of pilot selection it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility some people will have met before anyway. Don’t over think it. Act naturally and be calm. No one is checking whether you speak first/ last etc. They want to see active participation and someone who can be considerate as a team member but not shrink into the background and be dragged along.

[K13]

Reassuring that they're still going through applications, the radio silence hopefully means they haven't got to mines yet. Here's to blind optimism!

[Lawrence2725]

Given that the first assessment day is only 12 days away now, I do find it odd that AL haven't contacted everyone with an outcome (despite the volume of applications). If one were to be invited to the assessment centre on the 16th July, that is a very short turnaround for booking flights, accommodation and getting the time off work (unless you pull a sickie).

Haven't heard back yet, still holding onto some hope. There will be more opportunities though!

[Air2000]

Exactly! This is a fantastic opportunity, but it won't be the last opportunity - if it doesn't work out this time, they'll (probably, going by AL track record) run the programme again next year. Those of us who do get the PFO email shouldn't wallow, but acknowledge it as a learning experience and use the time between opportunities to brush up on soft skills, aviation knowledge, maths & physics etc. so you're better prepared for the next one.

Personally, i haven't heard back yet either and even if they did call me up now, I think it's too late for me to change plans. Currently living in Melbourne but moving back to the UK at the end of the month, if they called me up for assessment on the 16th it would take some serious consideration and money to actually go along now. Can only hope they learn from this experience and improve their timings for next year.

[Sararh]

Just had my call, don't give up hope! They've still got a bunch to get through.

[EIFlyer]

Anyone on here get a call or email today?

[Tango_Hector]

Just had my call, don't give up hope! They've still got a bunch to get through.
Congrats ! What date did they propose to you for the assessment center ?

[Eraclito]

Hi All,

I can confirm emails are out, I got mine today which states: "thank you for your application ...but unfortunately we must inform you that on this occasion your application is unsuccessful... " At least now we now.

Good luck to all who made it and thanks for sharing info and opinions on this website,

Regards from Greece :)

[ana36]

Hi i am very curious regarding to all who got the call...do all of you have previous aviation experience ?thank you for all possible answers.....

[aria230]

Hi All,

I can confirm emails are out, I got mine today which states: "thank you for your application ...but unfortunately we must inform you that on this occasion your application is unsuccessful... " At least now we now.

Good luck to all who made it and thanks for sharing info and opinions on this website,

Regards from Greece :)

Sorry to hear that, best of luck with your future aviating. I've still had no call and no email...

[852]

Also in the no email no call camp. It’s fun over here... 😂

[Inmric]

Hello folks!

Did anyone's application status update to anything different to "invite to preselection online test" ? Even if accepted or not.

Many thanks and good luck!

[Johnnyjd91]

Ah lads the suspense is killing me

[FFfrusciante]

I'd advise you all to keep off the forum and put it out of your mind, you'll either receive an e-mail or a phone call in due course. I remember last year I was the same, I was refreshing this forum every few hours and had convinced myself I wasn't through but I received my phone call nearly two weeks after they'd first started ringing people.

[Daithijnr]

Ah lads the suspense is killing me

Same here - anytime the phone beeps I jump. Just want the answer now - want to be put out of my misery

Anyone get the call / email today?

[Blakey0204]

Good luck to all those that have gotten the call!

I was fortunate enough to recieve mine monday morning, a day after finding out I'm going to be a dad!

Bitter sweet feeling as I've, obviously, elected to pull out of the FPP. Wishing you all luck this year!

For those of you who wern't fortunate enough to get the call, or for those that don't get past the assessment centre, there will be another opportunity!

[852]

Maybe they’re doing it in order or application received?

I sent mine mine in around 23.40 or so iirc.

[JakubEGSC]

Eraclito - thanks for sharing the news with us. Don't give up as resilience seems to be the key in aviation job market.

I haven't got call nor email yet but dont have my hopes high and i am progressing with an alternative plan to train at my own expense (no I don't have 120k euros for integrated training I don't even have half of that, lol)

good luck in your ventures and hopefully see you in on the deck one day.

j

[Eraclito]

Eraclito - thanks for sharing the news with us. Don't give up as resilience seems to be the key in aviation job market.

I haven't got call nor email yet but dont have my hopes high and i am progressing with an alternative plan to train at my own expense (no I don't have 120k euros for integrated training I don't even have half of that, lol)

good luck in your ventures and hopefully see you in on the deck one day.

j


thanks @JakubEGSC! I will try my best.

That is good to have a plan B, and it is great to read that you are progressing, regardless of the AL outcome. That is what I am doing myself, I never rely on someone' else judgement, however, sometimes a little "LIFT" helps :D In this case I will keep flying with no pressure, I mean QNH 1013hpa (and no debt) - jeez that was a cold joke, wasnt'it? :D

Jokes apart, I try to fly every week-end and I am starting soon the Navigation Module (studying towards my PPL). It is a long road but it enjoyable.

Passion and Discipline will get you there. If you haven't got the email yet, there is still hope, fingers crossed!

I also wish you all the best and see you up there ! :)

[Eraclito]

Sorry to hear that, best of luck with your future aviating. I've still had no call and no email...


Thanks Aria230! not a big deal :) Best of luck to you too, and finger crossed , no email is a good news , you are still in the race :)

[Jaair]

Good luck everyone! Does anyone know whether there are further stages after the one day assessment (a part from the Class 1 medical and company medical)? The website description doesn't suggest there are which I was finding a bit odd.

[Laursmith]

Hi guys,

Just looking for a little bit of help. I’m living in America for the summer so keep having to swap out my SIM cards to check my Irish one. Can whoever has received a call give any indication of what the number is like. I received a issued call and when I called back it just said we have take note of your number and will call back. I’m not asking for the whole number as I know that wouldn’t be okay to give out but just something that I could try match it up to what I have to see if it is it. Thank you:)

[Jaair]

Hi guys,

Just looking for a little bit of help. I’m living in America for the summer so keep having to swap out my SIM cards to check my Irish one. Can whoever has received a call give any indication of what the number is like. I received a issued call and when I called back it just said we have take note of your number and will call back. I’m not asking for the whole number as I know that wouldn’t be okay to give out but just something that I could try match it up to what I have to see if it is it. Thank you:)

I had a very similar experience and had to swap out my SIM cards (and top up £10 just to listen to that one voicemail!). The number provided in the message had the Irish country code and ended in 787. Good luck!

[IrishB1]

Hi guys,

Just looking for a little bit of help. I’m living in America for the summer so keep having to swap out my SIM cards to check my Irish one. Can whoever has received a call give any indication of what the number is like. I received a issued call and when I called back it just said we have take note of your number and will call back. I’m not asking for the whole number as I know that wouldn’t be okay to give out but just something that I could try match it up to what I have to see if it is it. Thank you:)

It's 886 I'd a missed call but they left a voicemail and sent an email for me to contact them.

[Johnnyjd91]

Hi all,
Anyone send an email yet? What address did you use?

[Leonv108]

few more days and its interviews already yet still no calls nor emails :ugh:

[852]

Few more days and it’s the start of the interviews, they’re hardly going to call you and say get to Dublin in 24 hours.

Suspect they’ll stagger them and if they don’t get enough right candidates then the no call no email crew will be contacted as back ups. In that case I’d say we’d all get rejection emails as I can’t see them not filling the course.

That being said it’s all speculation.

[Tango_Hector]

Hi guys,
I propose to vote HERE (http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=5b43980ae4b0f78c70ad4ef4) in order to get a picture of how many applicants passed/failed/are still waiting an answer. We know that Aer Lingus is intented to invite around 180 successful applicants to the next stage. It might help us to see whether we are close to the "limit".
Cheers !

[Leonv108]

voted!
do vote so we can have a little counter going on

[ana36]

voted!
do vote so we can have a little counter going on
voted !...no mail no call camp...amazing how many did not get nothing.. about 90% ..congratulation Tango Hector for your brilliant idea with this voting stuff...cool.....

[79er]

Voted.

We have to be aware that these results still need to be interpreted and we must account for mistakes. Yet, it is good idea for some general picture.

Counting this thread, some 6-7 persons reported calls and 4-5 rejection mails. (counted few days back). Did someone get more accurate count?

Unknown is how many were in between.



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[EdgeUp]

Well, as they say, it aint over until the, eehr, horizontally tall lady sings. Got my call today, so don't count yourselves out just yet!!

[Selhezad]

I got my call this afternoon, so don't lose your hopes just yet.
For those wondering about switching SIMs and so on: I had my mobile phone off, but I got both a voice mail and an email from them asking me to call them back.

They offered me the 26th of July, so bearing in mind the next stage (according to their website) is from the 16th to the 27th, I'm not sure if that means they only have the 26th and the 27th left to fill out (I didn't ask). However I had the feeling my interview was quite a bad one, not happy at all with it, and I had several crashes in the exercise about flying through the holes, so I honestly thought I was out of the competition. So I believe what might have happened is that I was in that "no email/no call" group some of you are talking about that they are using to fill out the gaps after offering it to the real successful candidates (in which case it doesn't matter they offered me the 26th or the 17th, it was just a gap they had?). Not complaining though of course, quite the opposite, I'm really happy about it and just grateful that I'm getting the chance to progress! But just to share some info about it.

(And following another discussion earlier on: I'm Spanish, not Irish).

[Pepe201603]

voted ! no mail no call camp, this is killing me !!!

[79er]

Interesting... Converging to 18% ones who got called.

That is very high. Does anyone have any clue to how many candidates were in total?

[Kuyashi]

Just to remind people who are saying the next stage is in " ... a couple of days from now":

As per the Future Pilot Programme website:
" Shortlisted candidates will be invited to the assessment centre stage which will be held in Dublin between Monday 16th July 2018 to Friday 27th July 2018. "

That would obviously imply that not everyone will be notified at the same time or even be attending on the same day.
On the day, there will a member of staff from Cut-e and/or EI team, observing each candidate.
They hardly have the staff numbers to monitor a couple of hundred candidates at one time on one day.
With those points in mind, as well as the fact that we are looking at 6,000 + candidates this cycle, it seems apparent the group assessment stages will be staggered, possibly with further dates added.

[Johnnyjd91]

On the day, there will a member of staff from Cut-e and/or EI team, observing each candidate.
They hardly have the staff numbers to monitor a couple of hundred candidates at one time on one day.


If that's me you are quoting I was referring to the assessment centre which is taken in groups of about 20-30 per day

[Jaair]

Interesting... Converting to 18% ones who got called.

That is very high. Does anyone have any clue to how many candidates were in total?

The number of people who got a call does seem quite high but it's worth noting that unsuccessful candidates might not bother checking this thread (and therefore voting) anymore.

[79er]

The number of people who got a call does seem quite high but it's worth noting that unsuccessful candidates might not bother checking this thread (and therefore voting) anymore.

Well, it is down to 14% by this morning and we still did not see many rejection pollers (and there were some 5-6 persons reported in here on the topic).

Anyhow.. this is also a way to pass time while we wait.

@Council Van,

I remember of at least one person from Italy reporting being called in.

[Jaair]

How many non Irish are ever successful with this scheme?
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I also recall someone from Germany was also successful a few years ago.

[79er]

I doubt they would get ppl from Australia and US (all applied here) just to dismiss them later on because of geo or national. In the end, they want best fitted ppl for the company.

Even if they do have some internal motives - hey, it's their money... :)

[thisishomebrand]

Well, it is down to 14% by this morning and we still did not see many rejection pollers (and there were some 5-6 persons reported in here on the topic).

Anyhow.. this is also a way to pass time while we wait.

@Council Van,

I remember of at least one person from Italy reporting being called in.

Given the sample size of the survey is around 200 at the moment and applications were expected to be in the region of 6,000 I think we may be seeing that those most active in this forum are those still waiting for call/email.

[EIFlyer]

Given the sample size of the survey is around 200 at the moment and applications were expected to be in the region of 6,000 I think we may be seeing that those most active in this forum are those still waiting for call/email.
On the money!

[79er]

Yes.. we have sample grade of only 1/30th - I doubt it is enough to draw any serious conclusions. I would say that 30 people who got invited from this batch would give 900 from linear approximation and that is simply too much for 2nd stage. Any other comments?

[FlyVeryHigh-]

How many non Irish are ever successful with this scheme?

Some one from a particular training organisation told me you name had to start with the right letter and you had to have a particular accent.

I wouldn't want to imaging our Irish friends are forgetting, as members of the EU, they can select the very best candidates from all of Europe.
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Italian, British (Scotland, Northern Ireland (British/Irish depending on your view!), English), French and I believe German have all previously been selected. Of course a lot of Irish get it, it's an Irish airline and one many Irish people want to work for. In my opinion it's a fairly fair process and if you're good enough you'll be selected. If you're not you won't, just like a lot of Irish applicants who aren't selected in the end either.

Much agreed great applicants come from all over, I've worked with many switched on people from all over Europe and further afield.

Saying that however, Air France could be reminded of this when they put "Fluent French" as an entry requirement to their scheme, along with many other airlines in EU who run Cadet Pilot schemes. IMO this closes off some good applicants from across Europe and is a subtle way in accepting home applicants.

[gregc320]

Well, it is down to 14% by this morning and we still did not see many rejection pollers (and there were some 5-6 persons reported in here on the topic).

Bare in mind now that people that have already got rejected are probably not going to be watching this forum topic, putting pure misery to their lifes seeing other people get it! I know I wouldn’t be - but I’m among the no call no email crew also! Painful getting these Aer Lingus advert emails!

[gregc320]

Italian, British (Scotland, Northern Ireland (British/Irish depending on your view!), English), French and I believe German have all previously been selected. Of course a lot of Irish get it, it's an Irish airline and one many Irish people want to work for. In my opinion it's a fairly fair process and if you're good enough you'll be selected. If you're not you won't, just like a lot of Irish applicants who aren't selected in the end either.

Much agreed great applicants come from all over, I've worked with many switched on people from all over Europe and further afield.

Saying that however, Air France could be reminded of this when they put "Fluent French" as an entry requirement to their scheme, along with many other airlines in EU who run Cadet Pilot schemes. IMO this closes off some good applicants from across Europe and is a subtle way in accepting home applicants.

I 100% agree with this. Pilots and air traffic controllers are required by ICAO law to be able to speak English so I don’t see why it’s a requirement to be able to speak fluent French? Cabin announcements? I mean seriously...? That is a bit of a OTT requirement if I just say

[Tango_Hector]

Just received my.... rejection email :( Good luck to everyone ! The competition will be tough but I'm sure you will do your best.

[ClipperTheBird]

Has anyones status changed from "Invite to pre selection online test." ?

[flyerfa]

Just received my.... rejection email :( Good luck to everyone ! The competition will be tough but I'm sure you will do your best.

Still no email nor call here..... I am starting to tempt fate now with thinking it’s a “No”

[79er]

I got my call this afternoon, so don't lose your hopes just yet.
For those wondering about switching SIMs and so on: I had my mobile phone off, but I got both a voice mail and an email from them asking me to call them back.

They offered me the 26th of July, so bearing in mind the next stage (according to their website) is from the 16th to the 27th, I'm not sure if that means they only have the 26th and the 27th left to fill out (I didn't ask). However I had the feeling my interview was quite a bad one, not happy at all with it, and I had several crashes in the exercise about flying through the holes, so I honestly thought I was out of the competition. So I believe what might have happened is that I was in that "no email/no call" group some of you are talking about that they are using to fill out the gaps after offering it to the real successful candidates (in which case it doesn't matter they offered me the 26th or the 17th, it was just a gap they had?). Not complaining though of course, quite the opposite, I'm really happy about it and just grateful that I'm getting the chance to progress! But just to share some info about it.

(And following another discussion earlier on: I'm Spanish, not Irish).

Please, what does the invite mail say about documents? Which ones should be presented at next stage?

Thanks

[Selhezad]

Please, what does the invite mail say about documents? Which ones should be presented at next stage?

Thanks
It's all related to what they had previously advised in the website, nothing new:
Essential criteria for application

18 years of age on or before 1st January 2018
Fluent in written and spoken English
Eligible to live and work permanently in the EU
Up-to-date unrestricted worldwide passport
Able to pass an airport security vetting procedure, including a five-year background check*
Two verifiable references
Able to obtain an EASA / IAA issued Class 1 Medical, including successfully passing a colour blindness test. Please refer to www.iaa.ie (www.iaa.ie) prior to application to ensure you can meet all medical requirements in line with eyesight/colour blindness limitations

*If you are a not an Irish citizen, you will require a current police disclosure certificate from your home country if successful

*If you have resided outside the Republic of Ireland for six months or more, you will also require a current police disclosure certificate from that country/countriesMinimum Educational criteria:

You must have passed your Leaving Certificate (6 subjects) or equivalent
You must have obtained O5 grades in English and Mathematics at ordinary level or H6 at higher level in the Leaving Certificate
You must also have a minimum of 2 higher level subjects with a minimum of H5 grades in the Leaving Certificate
*Equivalent grades are as follows:

GCSE Maths and English must be minimum of grade C plus
3 A Levels taken at A2 level in any subject with minimum grades C,C,D


Where the minimum Leaving Certificate or equivalent grades have not been met, you must have one of the following qualifications:

A minimum of a Level 7 third level (ordinary degree) in any discipline
Completed an aviation-related apprenticeship

Next stages of the process(...)

Please note that you will be required to provide copies of your Leaving Certificate or equivalent (including any third level degree or aviation related apprenticeship) to verify that you meet the essential criteria at the group assessment centre stage in Dublin


Ie: proof of ID (passport, utlity bill/proof of address, photo...), police disclosure certificate, references, colour blindness test, Leaving Certificate results/equivalent/any further studies...
I'm struggling with the police disclosure certificate within the time given as it's a very slow process, but due to the time constraints they only ask for proof that at least you have requested it. I guess that means it will be mandatory only in a possible last stage, or if there is no further stages then maybe just in case they finally choose you.

If you are wondering about the Class 1, they haven't asked for that just yet, only the colour blindness test that you can get from any optician. In their website they specify though "Part of the selection process involves passing a Class 1 and company medical", so maybe they pay for it if you are chosen, who knows.

[79er]

Thank you Since I need to have docs translated to English ( needs extra time), I just wanted to know what is the real scope one should expect

[FlyVeryHigh-]

As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.

[Jaair]

As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.

I may be overthinking this but do you think utility bills/bank statements should be translated? They asked for all documents to be translated. I do find translating a utility bill a bit odd though.

[79er]

As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.

Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.

@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.

[Jaair]

Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.

@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.

The criminal record certificate in my country is also provided within minutes when requested in person.

A utility bill is an accepted form of proof of address, but they also accept bank statements I believe.

[79er]

We have that address on ID card and passport and it is mandatory data like social security no. I guess a copy of that would be enough.

[MrAnnonymos4]

just wondering - are here some German people who will attend the assessment day?
Maybe we can exchange some information (PM?) :-)

You can’t use the Private Messaging system, add url links or images until you have an established posting history.

[f22feynman]

Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.

@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.

Where in the email does it say that documents need to be translated to English? Everything I have (from the Bachelor Diploma to the Police Disclosure Certificate) is written in my mother tongue, which is not English. Is it OK if I bring them translated by myself, or do I need to complete any special procedure to translate them and keep them as "official"?

Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.

Thank you in advance for your help,

[ana36]

Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.

[theexpandingman]

Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
Well good on you for applying and onwards and upwards with your flying career!

I'm convinced that I'll also get a NO soon enough, because of previous flying experience (had almost completed PPL when applying, now complete). Out of curiosity, has anybody who has received a YES had any previous flying experience?

[Selhezad]

Where in the email does it say that documents need to be translated to English? Everything I have (from the Bachelor Diploma to the Police Disclosure Certificate) is written in my mother tongue, which is not English. Is it OK if I bring them translated by myself, or do I need to complete any special procedure to translate them and keep them as "official"?

Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.

Thank you in advance for your help,
Also from Spain here and I thought you could request the certificate in English? At least one of the things you were required to specify when asking for it is in regards to the country you need this for, and I was assuming that involved translation into that language? (I’m still waiting for the certificate to come). I also believe translation of the documents is required (other certificates you can actually get those directly in English, eg the University degree), but right now I don't remember if I had read it somewhere or if it was just my mind playing tricks.

Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.

[OlsAconye]

Got my No but like Ana, working getting all my certs...the yeses will come soon enough with time and patience. GL to all who made it and those still waiting.

[Jaair]

Also from Spain here and I thought you could request the certificate in English? At least one of the things you were required to specify when asking for it is in regards to the country you need this for, and I was assuming that involved translation into that language? (I’m still waiting for the certificate to come). I also believe translation of the documents is required (other certificates you can actually get those directly in English, eg the University degree), but right now I don't remember if I had read it somewhere or if it was just my mind playing tricks.

Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.

I phoned the Ministerio de Justicia and they said they only issue it in Spanish unfortuntely.

[rojocrv]

I wouldn't worry, it says nothing about it having to be in english. This is something all their crew would have had to provide at some stage and they have crew from all across europe, so I'm sure they encounter non english background checks all the time
........I'm still waiting btw 😩

[EIFlyer]

Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
Hard luck Ana. You'll get there eventually. Do you mind me asking what date you submitted the online assessments?

[RejectTO]

Sure Thing... That would mean paying at least 200€ for translations. German Leaving certificate costs 90€ to be translated for example (cheap website btw).
And what kind of joke is it to translate a post-it-note from my optician (eye doctor) stating i passed the ishihara... ;)

I would relax at that time... If they want translations, i get them. But not right now.... Too much money for the small chance.

[K13]

What's the latest info regarding invites? Seemed earlier in the week they were still going through applications, we're now 4 days from the start of the assessments. Are we going to see those who haven't heard yet being rejected or additional assessment days added to cope with the extra volume of applicants?

[79er]

Yesterday had my first international spam call from some company in Estonia..... Murphy is simply great.. it had to be this week :) Still in no call/no mail camp...

[Dazzler91]

Think it's safe to say, even without emails or call its looking highly unlikely at this point ladies and gents :(

[79er]

I would say I agree :uhoh:

[EIFlyer]

Anyone hear anything today?!

[choochoosgaming]

Hey everyone!

I still have no Yes or No.I emailed A L and got a response saying :

Hi,
We hope to provide a status update over the coming weeks.
Kind Regards
A L recruitment Team

With less than a week until the next stage I find this unnerving like everyone else.
I am trying to think outside of the box with this. If I get any information that can help ease people anxiety about it I will try share what I can.Hopefully anyone reading this who has gotten a yes phone call could give us more information that would be great.

[zsofia]

I was reading from the top to bottom page and realised that you guys get calls/emails on different date and even rejection email. I haven't heard anything from them so far. Should I be hopeful? :*

[Dazzler91]

Like as narrow a hope that it is, I can't see them emailing some people no and not others so it means there's some kind of tiny glimmer of light I guess until we have 100% confirmation

[79er]

It would be nice to see what date at assessment center was offered to the last called person here? I know we are all trying to figure out some useful info and mind could already be playing tricks at this stage but I guess hope dies last.

Main question is, did they already get most candidates invited or is there a major delay. One option says we do not have much to hope for, other is statistically better for the camp. ;)

[ana36]

Well good on you for applying and onwards and upwards with your flying career!

I'm convinced that I'll also get a NO soon enough, because of previous flying experience (had almost completed PPL when applying, now complete). Out of curiosity, has anybody who has received a YES had any previous flying experience?
Hi theexpandingman.....thank for your mess....i really honestly doubt that if you have any flight experience they would reject you.....it's also acceptable to have flight exp certificate if the A levels are not met in education requirements...all said on their site at the application.... the criteria of selection must be totally another one like: how well we've done on the test ...video interview....if i did not get selected i doesn't mean i did so bad at the test...i know what i did and was pretty good ...but in 6000 applicants must have been others that did much better than me ...thats all....at list i understand now what kind of online assessment is that ....best of luck

[ana36]

Hard luck Ana. You'll get there eventually. Do you mind me asking what date you submitted the online assessments?
True ...life needs a bit of luck too....but here is all about me not doing enough at the test....yes i submitted my online assessment at about 8 pm on the last day Sunday ..think was the 20 th.

[MrAnnonymos4]

I got my call 11 days ago. They told me that there were only a few possible assessment dates remaining and that I have to send them my favorite one quickly because they were filling up fast.

Still, there is the possibility that some people reject their invitation to Dublin. I guess those empty slots will be filled up with lucky-ones from the "no call no mail camp". As there are so many people in this camp, they will not struggle to find someone who is available in Dublin on the very next day for example. I think they will keep their options open until the first assessment stage is completed on the 27th.
However, please - this is only speculation.

Best of luck!

[sgtswagatam]

I got a mail just now that my application is unsuccessful. :(

[thisishomebrand]

Just got my rejection email. Good luck to all those sitting assessment soon and those still waiting. For me, its time to get on with the modular route.

[Dazzler91]

Just got my rejection email. Good luck to all those sitting assessment soon and those still waiting. For me, its time to get on with the modular route.

Hard Luck, you'll get there in the end though, upwards and onwards.

[FM_A320]

I am in the limbo with no call no email. I’d like to make some considerations: I think it’s safe to say that for us in the limbo, a rejection mail is very very likely to arrive soon. I’m really sad in saying this, but I always try to be rational and realistic. We know we had in the best case 3000 applications, worst case about 6000 and we know that for the final stage in Dublin they want about 200 people. I think the 90% of applicants maybe read the forum but I’m quite sure they don’t have an account. In the first week of july we had the calls, many people writing in this forum got their call, I haven’t gone back to count them but I’m sure they are around 10 to 20, this number is already 5 to 10% of the final stage group. The rest 90,95% could have been filled by the people not having an account.
Yes very few people got a call this week too, they have been maybe lucky enough to be called standby due to refusal by some candidates (as many months have passed and maybe some people took different roads).
In the end, I think final rejection mails will arrive the week or immediately after the selection on Dublin, as someone said in the unlike event they don’t manage to fill the gap they can call back people who didn’t get to the top but didn’t do so bad

[Dazzler91]

Most likely yup, I think you're right my friend, I think you are right :sad:

[mjh2000har]

How often do Aer Lingus run this programme then? Has it been fully or mostly funded with a secured job at the end in the past?

- I'm also in the no call no email camp but won't be particularly surprised or saddened if I receive a rejection. I'm in my first year of a Chemistry degree at a respectable university so now I'm close to progressing into the second year of my studies I have something to see out and complete for at least 2-3 years. Because of this I didn't put loads of time and effort into the whole Aer Lingus assessment and application and would definitely see myself putting in more effort once I have graduated and am moving on from university.

I was just wondering if they do frequently run the programme and if it is likely to run again. Do they let people apply a second time after a previous rejection?

Thanks and good luck to all :)

[852]

I emailed them to make them aware of a change of contact information (phone) and got a rejection email 10 minutes later. With the competition wasn't expecting much success but it was fun while it lasted. Onto pastures new!

[Johnnyjd91]

I emailed them to make them aware of a change of contact information (phone) and got a rejection email 10 minutes later. With the competition wasn't expecting much success but it was fun while it lasted. Onto pastures new!
Hard luck, I did the same and I was told they would be back within the next 2 weeks, I have a funny feeling anyone in the same boat as me is on the knifes edge between fail and replacing no shows or people who reject the offer

[Jaair]

First interviews coming up, good luck to everyone!

[Pegasus1504]

Well good on you for applying and onwards and upwards with your flying career!

I'm convinced that I'll also get a NO soon enough, because of previous flying experience (had almost completed PPL when applying, now complete). Out of curiosity, has anybody who has received a YES had any previous flying experience?
I'm very close to finishing my PPL and got a yes for the interview.

[Pegasus1504]

hi ..can you please tell us what day you will have the meeting in Dublin? thanks..
The 19th. Sorry, I've only just seen this!

[Movieman162]

Just curious, did anyone get offered a date outside of the 23rd to the 27th?

I got called on the 2nd so only a day or two after people started popping up saying they had their call and the dates I was offered at the time were 24th-27th.

So my impression from this would be that it is only that particular week they are running assesments, especially keeping in mind that assesments are being done at a hotel. I suspect the dates on the website are the range in which the interview dates could have occured and not actually the entire assesment period.

[Pegasus1504]

Just curious, did anyone get offered a date outside of the 23rd to the 27th?

I got called on the 2nd so only a day or two after people started popping up saying they had their call and the dates I was offered at the time were 24th-27th.

So my impression from this would be that it is only that particular week they are running assesments, especially keeping in mind that assesments are being done at a hotel. I suspect the dates on the website are the range in which the interview dates could have occured and not actually the entire assesment period.


I was called on the 2nd and my assessment date is the 19th. My surname starts with a W, and I'm from Scotland, if that helps.

[BravoAlphaWhiskey]

Hard luck, I did the same and I was told they would be back within the next 2 weeks, I have a funny feeling anyone in the same boat as me is on the knifes edge between fail and replacing no shows or people who reject the offer

In the same boat as you. It's an anxious wait isn't it!

[Jaair]

Does anyone know if we get shortlisted after the group exercise for the interviews? Or is EVERYONE attending the assessment having an interview? It rings a bell that in previous years people got shortlisted after the group exercise.

[MrAnnonymos4]

This is the first time I take part on such an assessment.
I am wondering about how I should dress up… will I be underdressed in some white shirt and black trousers? And how about colors? :rolleyes:

Thanks for any tips or experiences!

[K13]

Good luck to all those with Interviews. Make the most of it!

I'm trying to mentally check out now, just don't see how those of us who haven't heard anything have much of a chance now given the set dates of assessment weeks

[Leonv108]

Still in the no email no call camp. Just sent an email asking for a follow up and lets see what they have so say. Perhaps my rejection email might be on the way:hmm:

[Officer Kite]

Does anyone know if we get shortlisted after the group exercise for the interviews? Or is EVERYONE attending the assessment having an interview? It rings a bell that in previous years people got shortlisted after the group exercise.
Last time round they shortlisted people from the group. So in the morning you had the group stuff, then if you met what they were after they kept you for the afternoon. If not then you were sent home after lunch. They arrived after lunch and called out a list of names who had to follow one staff member and the ones not called remained in the canteen/kitchen. This was how they split the ones who passed the morning and ones who didn't, the individual groups were then told together whether they were the successful or unsuccessful ones.

[Jaair]

Last time round they shortlisted people from the group. So in the morning you had the group stuff, then if you met what they were after they kept you for the afternoon. If not then you were sent home after lunch. They arrived after lunch and called out a list of names who had to follow one staff member and the ones not called remained in the canteen/kitchen. This was how they split the ones who passed the morning and ones who didn't, the individual groups were then told together whether they were the successful or unsuccessful ones.

That's perfect, thank you so much for that.

[Leonv108]

Still in the no email no call camp. Just sent an email asking for a follow up and lets see what they have so say. Perhaps my rejection email might be on the way:hmm:
Update on this. Here's their reply:

Hello,

Many thanks for your email.

Applications are being assessed at the moment and you will be contacted via email in due course.

Thank you for your interest in Aer Lingus.

Kind Regards,

The Aer Lingus Recruitment Team
Aer Lingus, Shamrock House, AskHR, Head Office Building, Dublin Airport, Dublin, Ireland

So yeah, clueless at this point. Maybe the fact they said I will be contacted via email in due course means the rejection letter is coming Lol. lets see what they say and Ill keep you guys updated Hope this helps

[Johnnyjd91]

This is the first time I take part on such an assessment.
I am wondering about how I should dress up… will I be underdressed in some white shirt and black trousers? And how about colors? :rolleyes:

Thanks for any tips or experiences!
Hi Mr anonymous

I don't have any experience these particular (Aer lingus) assessments but the guy who is underdressed always sticks out more than guy who is overdressed.
Safest way to play is a slacks and mild coloured shirt and tie, nothing too standing out, and a casual jacket. Then if everyone is in full suits then you just look too warm to wear a jacket. And if you are overdressed go to the bathroom lose the tie and open the collar and problem solved.

Personally that's how I do it if unsure,
but in this case I would go shirt slacks tie and jacket because the role you are going for you end up in a formal uniform so dress the part.

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[MrAnnonymos4]

Hi Mr anonymous

I don't have any experience these particular (Aer lingus) assessments but the guy who is underdressed always sticks out more than guy who is overdressed.
Safest way to play is a slacks and mild coloured shirt and tie, nothing too standing out, and a casual jacket. Then if everyone is in full suits then you just look too warm to wear a jacket. And if you are overdressed go to the bathroom lose the tie and open the collar and problem solved.

Personally that's how I do it if unsure,
but in this case I would go shirt slacks tie and jacket because the role you are going for you end up in a formal uniform so dress the part.

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Hi Johnnyjd91,

thank you very much - you helped me out a lot! :-)

Best regards!

[K13]

Some rumour on Boards.ie that Aer Lingus are looking at taking on 40 cadets, but not all at the same time due to class size restrictions at Jerez. Might go some way to explaining the lack of response to most applications

A large number certainly makes sense given they appear to have a major pilot shortage, and more aircraft coming soon

[cpt3p]

Update on this. Here's their reply:

Hello,

Many thanks for your email.

Applications are being assessed at the moment and you will be contacted via email in due course.

Thank you for your interest in Aer Lingus.

Kind Regards,

The Aer Lingus Recruitment Team
Aer Lingus, Shamrock House, AskHR, Head Office Building, Dublin Airport, Dublin, Ireland

So yeah, clueless at this point. Maybe the fact they said I will be contacted via email in due course means the rejection letter is coming Lol. lets see what they say and Ill keep you guys updated Hope this helps


I got the same exact response from them.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

They are looking to take 18, not 40.

[gregc320]

I can’t remember it taking this long in previous years? Still in the no call no email brigade! I presume that means I haven’t failed but I haven’t stood out either? A backup?

[david_rob1995]

E-Mailed and got what seems to be the generic response. Also asked about feedback and they said they wouldn't be able to supply any due to the high number of applicants, seems reasonable.

Surely if there are that many applications there not going to be overly pressed for back-ups if all the selection days have been filled. Would have thought if I'm in the mid-range candidates then I'm unlikely to get any positive news, given how competitive it is.

[FM_A320]

I think it’s pretty much easy to say that people in the no email, no call status - as me - at 99% will not be Aer Lingus cadet, at least this year, unless something unpredictable happens.
But I think the behavior it’s quite unfair as after so long, at least a note explaining the reason why there’s no answer should be quite deserved and fair.
I think we all should be thankful Aer Lingus running such an amazing programme with no pointless language barriers as other airlines do, but it’s not really fair not telling anything after so long.
It’s like getting a 3hrs slot delay and no one from the cockpit/ cabin crew saying why we are still at the gate. I think they’d blame flight crew behavior in such a situation and I think this is more or less the same

[Leonv108]

They are looking to take 18, not 40.
According to a source in Boards.ie theyre looking for 24.

Perhaps there could be 2 intakes? We can only know in the future. For now lets just wait what AL says.

[mask14]

not all slots filled yet apparently due cancelations ... stay patient ... 1000's of regrets sent so far so no news is good news....

[K13]

not all slots filled yet apparently due cancelations ... stay patient ... 1000's of regrets sent so far so no news is good news....

Where did you hear that?

[Dazzler91]

not all slots filled yet apparently due cancelations ... stay patient ... 1000's of regrets sent so far so no news is good news....
Like all people here, I do hope that's true, but where did you hear it?

[Aleeta]

I want to believe there is still hope with my no call/no e-mail status but reality is so cruel and maybe only one percent chance exist for passing to the next stage

[TallyVisualIn]

Hey everyone! I've been tracking this thread for the last few weeks, thought it appropriate to give my own "no call no email" status. Appear to be in limbo with everyone else! My own assessment at this point is I must be in some manner of "reserve" list, so I've zero expectation to get an invite, yet equally I'm prepped to get a last minute "can you attend tomorrow" message just in case. Not ideal eh?! Are there many other still in this camp? Keen to see what the numbers are like. Thanks!

[EIFlyer]

Be interested to know what you heard that and who from! Bit of a merry-go-round all this hope and disappointment!

[TandO]

Also in the no call, no email camp. It's disappointing to have no feedback at all. Personally have given up hope at this point

[Slow Progress]

No call or email yet for me too. I am hoping of a reserve list or second intake and a last minute call. Suit has been to the dry cleaners!

[theexpandingman]

Any feedback from those of you who did the assessments this week? Without giving too much away to those who have yet to have yet to go in, can you give us a flavour as to what happened on the day? I'm also in the no email / no call camp....

[Field Required]

Those who haven't heard back are in a reserve list.

[EIFlyer]

Those who haven't heard back are in a reserve list.
Where did you hear that? Seems a high amount, any idea on how many might be in that list?

[antoniosilvestre]

Those who haven't heard back are in a reserve list.
I am sorry to inform but that is not true. Unfortunately I was not able to finish all the test on time due to personal reasons and even without completing all the tests, I am in the so called "No e-mail/no call". I think it is pretty obvious that due to a high number of application this year they simply filtered through the list the top candidates in the online assessments and after this step they reviewed the interviews to select the ones going to the assessment center. For remaining candidates, they simply did nothing.
I know this is what people do not want to read, but I truly believe "Game is Over" for this process.
Nevertheless, if you really want to become a pilot, just head to a modular course (yes, I am against the stupid prices practiced at integrated courses) and don't wait for new opportunities like this to come since the probability of getting a position is pretty low and time is a factor against you (nowadays not so true in fact, fortunately). Of course if they appear then you apply, but at least you have something to show to them: interest and pro-activity.
Good luck to everyone and I hope to see you all in the sky in the near future. Just never give up.
Regards.

[K13]

Just thought I’d update, there’s significantly more applicants this year than any previous year I.e more than 6000 and they’ve been shortlisted to 234 for the rest of this week and next week. Still not sure on how many they’re taking but there’s a very high standard this year so don’t be disheartened if you’ve not heard anything.


Chances of them needing their reserve list are slim to none, I suspect they'll get the required 12-24 cadets from the 234.

[79er]

I'd say it is quite true - perhaps some really small number of candidates here would be called in as extras, most probably ones from Dublin to keep things simple... As anything else stated in the forum here - it is pure assumption.

It's been nice while it lasted :) Good luck to everyone who progressed to next stage and congratulations to selected ones! It's great job.

[JakubEGSC]

Yes guys, it's been a very long wait... I lost any hope now, although no email/no call. Real shame, it was the last 'stop' for me before commencing the last route of modular way. I really daydreamed I could be joining them. Good luck to those invited - a real chance and privilege.

Fly Safe
J

[Leonv108]

So im logging off now, just received my rejection email. Congrats and all the best wishes for the chosen few and to everyone else in the forum.

See you all next time on a different scheme :)

[MrGG]

So have more rejection emails went out today?


l’ll take a punt and say yes as per the email above...

[LBAflyer22]

I got my rejection email at 11:40 this morning. Good luck to all those that are still awaiting a reply; for this that have been invited congratulations and very well done. Good luck.

[mask14]

My source is close to the action and says they are calling a handful for next week .... less than 10 ...due to last minute withdrawals... they are also sending regrets but it is slow due volume and everyone is caught up in the assessment in the first place.

[DeltaEchoCharlie]

Email arrived today around 2pm.
I've been following the thread for a long time! Thanks to everyone who contributed and good luck to those progressing with the programme!
It was my first year applying, but I'll be back next year as I'm sure some of you will be too!
All the best

[MrAnnonymos4]

Could someone please give me a hint what a "panel exercise" is or could be?
Is it some kind of role play or like a panel interview?

I can't find any information on the internet ...

Many thanks!

[Dazzler91]

Some lucky Bugger got the Yes Call just there 20 min ago on Boards.ie so there's a marginal glimmer of hope

[f22feynman]

Is there anybody else hesitant for the reason that the program goes for a MPL instead of a CPL?

[EIFlyer]

I doubt it! If it was a self-sponsored MPL there might be reasons for hesitation.

[Johnnyjd91]

Could someone please give me a hint what a "panel exercise" is or could be?
Is it some kind of role play or like a panel interview?

I can't find any information on the internet ...

Many thanks!
Hi anon, if you go back to page 27 or so I gave an example of what I went through with cut e before although it was non aviation related its possible there are similarities

[MrAnnonymos4]

Hi Johnny,

thanks for the reminder. I was confused by the term "exercise" - but this makes sense now :-)

Best of luck!

[theexpandingman]

Somebody on boards.ie posted that they've just received a call to attend the session next Monday. There's still hope!

[IrishB1]

Is there anybody else hesitant for the reason that the program goes for a MPL instead of a CPL?

I don't see any issue with them choosing the MPL it's aimed at training pilots how to work as a multicrew rather than doing ppl etc as this is not a requirement to fly an Airbus

[EIFlyer]

MPL shorter and cheaper for airlines. Can you even do a self-sponsored MPL? They are run by airlines to get their cadets into the plane asap.

[f22feynman]

MPL shorter and cheaper for airlines. Can you even do a self-sponsored MPL? They are run by airlines to get their cadets into the plane asap.

That's my point. I am not arguing the suitability of an MPL from the airline's POV. I am wondering about whether is it a better possibility for us than a CPL, cause I confess I am an ignorant regarding the MPL.

[EIFlyer]

They pay for it so yeah. If you're training yourself you will be doing the ATPL.

[f22feynman]

They pay for it so yeah. If you're training yourself you will be doing the ATPL.


What do you mean by the ATPL? for the MPL you have to complete the same ATPL theory than for the CPL, isn't it? As for the licenses, CPL and MPL, you get an ATPL when you reach requisites with either of both licenses, am I wrong?
Afaik, the MPL differs from the CPL (both in its modular or integrated variants for the CPL) in the sense that it requires less hours of real flight, and more of simulators. As well as that your whole MPL is linked to the airline and, if you move before getting the ATPL, you lose everything.

Correct me if I an wrong, please.

[cumbrianboy]

An MPL can not be self sponsored. You can only do an MPL with an airline, and then your license is specifically for that airline on that aircraft until such a time as you meet the requirements to unfreeze at which time it does become an ATPL. But until then, you are restricted to that airline and that aircraft (as far as I know, you can't take the type rating to another airline but they are so new I am not sure this has ever been tested)

In either case the ground school (14 ATPL subjects) are the same.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

That's assesments over for this week. Total 236 to assesments this year out of 7800 applicants.

​​​​​​18 spaces, 3 courses (x2 November, x1 Jan).

Friend of mine questioned if it was MPL or ATPL and was told it was yet undecided.

[EIFlyer]

That's assesments over for this week. Total 236 to assesments this year out of 7800 applicants.

​​​​​​18 spaces, 3 courses (x2 November, x1 Jan).

Friend of mine questioned if it was MPL or ATPL and was told it was yet undecided.
Pretty pleased with the accuracy of my analysis! Cheers for the update, surprised their considering the ATPL route.

[BT971]

Some lucky Bugger got the Yes Call just there 20 min ago on Boards.ie so there's a marginal glimmer of hope


Yes call as in a call to be interviewed or yes call they have the job?

[Officer Kite]

MPL shorter and cheaper for airlines. Can you even do a self-sponsored MPL? They are run by airlines to get their cadets into the plane asap.

Contact L3 they'll have you sorted ;)

[EIFlyer]

Contact L3 they'll have you sorted ;)
I'm sure they would....

[Contact Approach]

Stop self sponsoring yourselves!! Jeez

[Dazzler91]

Yes call as in a call to be interviewed or yes call they have the job?
Call for interview, wouldn't believe anyone who said they had the job at this stage

[wannaberafpilot]

I've still not had a 'no' email yet, checked both my main inbox and spam folder as well. Bit strange because I'm definitely expecting a 'no' considering all of the assessments are currently underway. Maybe expecting one next week, even though it's almost implied at this stage?

[Aleeta]

Me either. I finished all the assessments before finishing time but i suppose a two of them i did wrong. One with the hole bacause i did it in imac and i had a problems with a mouse and second one with compass (an important one) cause i didnt understood a rules and i thinked a time for assessments will be close soon. Its wierd because i did a similar tests for military aviation and ive got a best result with compass and orientation. The two of them i passed well on military tests and here i failed, but its life. So, i expected no also, i think.

[EIFlyer]

Anyone hear anything today? Any calls or emails?

[TallyVisualIn]

Anyone hear anything today? Any calls or emails?
Negative - An utterly bizarre process I must say! Has anyone tried emailing them again to see what's up? I've done that twice over the last month and got the same automated reply back. One would imagine if they can reply quickly saying "please wait", they shouldn't have an issue saying "no thanks". (Beating the dead horse!)

[FuturePilot_123]

Morning All,

Just wondering whether anyone from the “No Call No Email” group has received any positive correspondence over the past few days?

I am still just about holding on with some hope!

Many thanks in advance. Have a good day!

Best regards,

[TandO]

Anyone heard anything this week? I'm still in the no call, no email camp. Have no hope at all now but really wouldn't mind closure!

[79er]

Morning All,

Just wondering whether anyone from the “No Call No Email” group has received any positive correspondence over the past few days?

I am still just about holding on with some hope!

Many thanks in advance. Have a good day!

Best regards,

That would be nice news but I think we are all in the draft folder for "thank you" mails. I guess someone will click SEND by the end of the summer.

[Chris4]

Well I finally received my no thanks email today. I do find it slightly bizarre that it has taken them this long

[Johnnyjd91]

Is there many of us left in the no call no email group?

[EIFlyer]

Is there many of us left in the no call no email group?
I doubt it, maybe 3 or 4 thousand would be my guess!

[Johnnyjd91]

Really???? Did a load of people not already get rejections? I thought from reading that there was 100 or less in it

[mboqseif]

Finally got my thanks but no thanks email! Application sent in 13th May so a relatively serene 10 weeks of waiting :)

[EIFlyer]

Really???? Did a load of people not already get rejections? I thought from reading that there was 100 or less in it
Ah no I have no idea tbh, who knows. It's game over though.

[rocketrazz]

Still haven't received either call or email. However have given up hope by this point.

[VitorWinterink]

I didn’t receive nothing from them yet! I spoke to a member of this group trough WhatsApp and he told me that his assessment will be tomorrow! Let’s keep waiting for email or calls! Good lucky for all.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Tomorrow is the last day of assessments guys. Outcome of assessments SHOULD be distributed out toncanridates next week if you made it to the afternoon sessions. Keep trying if unsuccessful! Perciverance is key!

[shamrock_f22]

Didn't progress through to the afternoon session earlier this week when I did my assessment centre. Absolutely heartbroken and devastated, more so given that they don't provide feedback whatsoever.

I know this is an eternal debate on the forums with polarised views each side but I simply cannot understand the thought process. They know how much this means to each candidate and a key aspect of aviation is reviewing decisions and learning from mistakes so I'm a little confused on why they can't give you at least a paragraph offering some outside perspective.

I don't think it would bias future results should you apply again in the future because it's unlikely you'd gain anything above the others as the standard is already so high. But from a closure and general recruitment practise point of view I really wish they did it. You can see them making notes about you throughout the day as well :(

Personally I'm still going to reflect on the whole experience, try to pick apart what I could have done better and give it another shot if the programme opens again in the future.

Best of luck to anyone who made it through to the afternoon sessions, you thoroughly deserve to be there! :)

[IrishB1]

Didn't progress through to the afternoon session earlier this week when I did my assessment centre. Absolutely heartbroken and devastated, more so given that they don't provide feedback whatsoever.

I know this is an eternal debate on the forums with polarised views each side but I simply cannot understand the thought process. They know how much this means to each candidate and a key aspect of aviation is reviewing decisions and learning from mistakes so I'm a little confused on why they can't give you at least a paragraph offering some outside perspective.

I don't think it would bias future results should you apply again in the future because it's unlikely you'd gain anything above the others as the standard is already so high. But from a closure and general recruitment practise point of view I really wish they did it. You can see them making notes about you throughout the day as well :(

Personally I'm still going to reflect on the whole experience, try to pick apart what I could have done better and give it another shot if the programme opens again in the future.

Best of luck to anyone who made it through to the afternoon sessions, you thoroughly deserve to be there! :)


unlucky fella but keep head held high you'll get there.

[tsvpilot]

Absolutely heartbroken and devastated, more so given that they don't provide feedback whatsoever.

I know this is an eternal debate on the forums with polarised views each side but I simply cannot understand the thought process. They know how much this means to each candidate and a key aspect of aviation is reviewing decisions and learning from mistakes so I'm a little confused on why they can't give you at least a paragraph offering some outside perspective.


If true, there were thousands of applicants and hundreds got invited to the assessment center. Offering personalized feedback to every rejected applicant seems rather unreasonable and for them its nothing but waste of resources. They could write to you that your personality wasn't a match but then you would want to know what exactly was it with your personality and so on...

[Irishgrend]

Tomorrow is the last day of assessments guys. Outcome of assessments SHOULD be distributed out toncanridates next week if you made it to the afternoon sessions. Keep trying if unsuccessful! Perciverance is key!
Where did you hear that the outcome would be received next week? I was told end of August. Good luck nevertheless!

[BT971]

We were told in the afternoon session after the interview it would be two to three weeks that was over a week ago

[Irishgrend]

We were told in the afternoon session after the interview it would be two to three weeks that was over a week ago

Interesting, we were told end of August earlier this week. I would have assumed we would all hear back together but apparently not.

[737ng_x]

They told me end of August too !

[Pegasus1504]

They told me end of August too !

I was told "about three weeks" and my date was one of the first days.

[Ginger1]

Didn't progress through to the afternoon session earlier this week when I did my assessment centre. Absolutely heartbroken and devastated, more so given that they don't provide feedback whatsoever.

I know this is an eternal debate on the forums with polarised views each side but I simply cannot understand the thought process. They know how much this means to each candidate and a key aspect of aviation is reviewing decisions and learning from mistakes so I'm a little confused on why they can't give you at least a paragraph offering some outside perspective.

I don't think it would bias future results should you apply again in the future because it's unlikely you'd gain anything above the others as the standard is already so high. But from a closure and general recruitment practise point of view I really wish they did it. You can see them making notes about you throughout the day as well :(

Personally I'm still going to reflect on the whole experience, try to pick apart what I could have done better and give it another shot if the programme opens again in the future.

Best of luck to anyone who made it through to the afternoon sessions, you thoroughly deserve to be there! :)

You could always submit a Subject Access Request under Article 15 of the EU General Data Protection Regulation. There is a legal obligation to provide all personal data held about you, covering any information relating to you kept on a computer or manual filing system. So it wouldn't be feedback, but it might well give you an insight as it should cover any notes etc taken about you during the assessment. www.dataprotection.ie has more information.

[IrishB1]

main interview was tough but and enjoyable experience

[shamrock_f22]

If true, there were thousands of applicants and hundreds got invited to the assessment center. Offering personalized feedback to every rejected applicant seems rather unreasonable and for them its nothing but waste of resources. They could write to you that your personality wasn't a match but then you would want to know what exactly was it with your personality and so on...

Understand your point but not quite there I'm afraid. There were 7800 applicants and only a fraction got through to that stage and even fewer still to the face to face interview stage.
Feedback en masse not viable, but in some circumstances is possible

[AviatorChick]

I’d say the first week was for those who will be starting in November and the second week was for those who are starting in January. So naturally the first week of individuals who made it to the interviews so should this week or next. Those who made it to the interviews in the second week will know the end of August! Just hazarding a guess as to why people were told different dates to hear back by.

[737ng_x]

Hi everyone !

Here is a group for those who progressed through to the afternoon session, for updates...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/217311748977651/

For the other candidates, never loose hope and keep your motivation... :)

[thefreedomflyer]

Hi there.. just wondering if there’s still someone on the wait for some email or call (and if it still is a possibility).
sent them an email on Thursday asking if there would be more invitations and they replied telling me that they couldn’t confirm it.
I’ve been trying to not to lose hope lately...

[IrishB1]

Hi there.. just wondering if there’s still someone on the wait for some email or call (and if it still is a possibility).
sent them an email on Thursday asking if there would be more invitations and they replied telling me that they couldn’t confirm it.
I’ve been trying to not to lose hope lately...

last day of interviews was Friday. we were told we'd be told their decision in two to three weeks. I'd imagine if no call has been made there's a very slight chance they may consider more applicants. I'd be a pessimist and imagine they've interviewed enough candidates to fill their slots but possibly have a backup reserve group in case of medicals etcs

[Aleeta]

I received my rejection e-mail today. :(

[Irishgrend]

I received my rejection e-mail today. :(
Sorry to hear Aleeta, did you attend the afternoon interview?

[FuturePilot_123]

Hi there.. just wondering if there’s still someone on the wait for some email or call (and if it still is a possibility).
sent them an email on Thursday asking if there would be more invitations and they replied telling me that they couldn’t confirm it.
I’ve been trying to not to lose hope lately...
I’m still waiting for a call/email too!

[79er]

Hello,

this morning I was in the "no call, no email" camp and at 10 am CET sharp I received my rejection email.

Best of luck to everyone who got through. I'll be waiting for another chance somewhere down the line.

Cheers,

[Danfromaus]

Hey
Still in the "no call, no email" camp.
Is the email from " The Aer Lingus Recruitment team" or is it some other email address their using? Would anyone be able let me know - Thinking perhaps maybe I missed it so thought I'd search my emails to double check.

[rocketrazz]

I emailed them yesterday and got this. :
Due to the large number of applications, they are still being assessed at the moment. You will be contacted via email in due course.

Can't remember if this is the same automated reply that everyone that co tacted them got?

[79er]

Sure

Address is [email protected]

Aer Lingus Recruitment team is signed below.

You do not get to miss it.... Phone blinks bright red light while receiving that email flashing message: DENIED...

Well...it just felt that way ;)

[wannaberafpilot]

Hey
Still in the "no call, no email" camp.
Is the email from " The Aer Lingus Recruitment team" or is it some other email address their using? Would anyone be able let me know - Thinking perhaps maybe I missed it so thought I'd search my emails to double check.


Still not got mine either, they've either forgotten about us or we've somehow made our way off of the email list! Either way, an update would've been nice from them.

[FuturePilot_123]

Still not got mine either, they've either forgotten about us or we've somehow made our way off of the email list! Either way, an update would've been nice from them.

I am also in the no call no email pool, and am still waiting!

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Has everyone who didn't get invited for an assessment day had a response? Or are some still waiting either way?

[mask14]

rumour has it they are looking to send an extra class in 2019 ... 12 more.....

[CK2611]

rumour has it they are looking to send an extra class in 2019 ... 12 more.....

Where or Who did you hear this from??

[IrishB1]

rumour has it they are looking to send an extra class in 2019 ... 12 more.....
we were told two classes one in Nov and one in Jan

[AviatorChick]

rumour has it they are looking to send an extra class in 2019 ... 12 more.....
Is this an addition to the already announced classes in November and January?

[BravoAlphaWhiskey]

rumour has it they are looking to send an extra class in 2019 ... 12 more.....

How do you know?

[wannaberafpilot]

rumour has it they are looking to send an extra class in 2019 ... 12 more.....

I'm probably being very hopeful here, but this could perhaps be the reason some of us (myself included) haven't heard back at all yet? Because surely they would've told us 'no' by now, considering all summer 2018 assessments have concluded?

[79er]

I thought similar and then received my mail 4 days ago. Yet, still there might be hope for some...

[mask14]

Just a rumour folks - also : extra A330's coming in 2019 & 2020

[EIFlyer]

Yeah but A320 LR's order cancelled until further notice

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Where did you read the a321lrs are cancelled?