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southside bobby 25th November 2020 07:35

Stansted-4
 
In line with Government national policy supporting UK airports STN set to receive £8m or equivalent to the airport`s business rate for the year.

SWBKCB 25th November 2020 07:43

Isn't it an amount equivalent to the airport`s business rate for the year, up to a maximum of £8m?

southside bobby 25th November 2020 08:12

Yes indeed hence my use of the phrase `or equivalent` in the sentence.

Publicity from & surrounding a local MP states the generic Government news release of £8m but then she would wouldn`t she...same with other local Tory MP`s & Mayors with airport workers in their constituency it appears.

Expressflight 25th November 2020 08:15

So how much will STN receive? I've no idea what their annual business rates bill is. The figure for MME is around £470,000 so I assume the STN figure is well below £8 million.

BHX5DME 25th November 2020 08:20

BHX are getting the max £8m so I assume STN will too

southside bobby 25th November 2020 09:04

According to a listing for year 19/20 rates due payable by STN = £12,136,320.

southside bobby 1st December 2020 10:42

RYR announce further extra flights from STN between 16 Dec & 3 Jan...

11 further to Dublin
& 1 further to both Porto & Bari.

LTNman 3rd December 2020 09:08

I have heard lots of rumours that the world is actually flat so there must be a bit of truth in it and that a new long haul service from Stansted to the edge could start by the summer.

southside bobby 3rd December 2020 09:43

Anadolujet recommence SAW today.
LOG appear to have gone to 2x daily again on LDY .

southside bobby 4th December 2020 06:51

LOG add extra LDY/STN on 22.12.20 28.12.20 4.1.21.

EXS add 2nd weekly STN/Santorini Sundays May/Oct alongside Tuesday service.
Now schedules 14 Greek destinations.

southside bobby 4th December 2020 18:34

With LCY shelving plans to extend its operating hours that should hopefully bode well for the STN CFE/BAW weekend ops either 21/22 then.

Harrych 8th December 2020 18:26

Unfortunately BA are suspendIng operations at STN and MAN in S21. Hopefully they return.

AirportPlanner1 9th December 2020 09:56

It seems the Citiflyer operation has gone to Southampton for ‘21 so whether it does indeed return to STN or MAN in ‘22 remains to be seen. Certainly it did seem a stretch for them to be running a STN operation when not even their LHR or LCY activities are at full strength, not to mention LGW.

Harrych 9th December 2020 10:09

I had looked at flights to Malaga in October half term 2021 usually paying close to a grand for a family of four on this trip ba were charging £350 for all four adults. If that’s during school holidays I can see why they left.

pamann 9th December 2020 12:03

I was looking at flights to Mykonos with them ex Stansted but both LHR and LCY were working out cheaper. Most of their routes overlapped to be fair with FR/LS and I guess they can’t compete on frequency.

I used them a couple of years ago, flying out FR returning BA/CF. I have to say the FR flight was much better, with a really friendly crew. The CF cabin crew were stuffy and refused a second drink request on a 2hr + flight. They also wished us all a very pleasant stay in Stansted when we landed. I’m not sure any of us were planning on a vacation at Mountfitchet Castle if I’m honest.

AirportPlanner1 9th December 2020 12:09

2020 was supposed to have been the third or fourth year of operation so we can probably take from that performance was satisfactory. Certainly the one time I used them it was full up front, maybe 6 or 7 rows of Club.

pabely 10th December 2020 23:09

With the threatened BACargo strike at LHR, will STN be picking up alot more business?

STN406 11th December 2020 02:32

How would a BA Cargo Strike mean Stansted picking up more business?

pabely 11th December 2020 06:50

With no-one to load and reload belly frieght and dedicated cargo flights through BA Cargo at LHR freight forwarder may seek to reroute urgent supplies into another airport which is geared up for Cargo.

STN406 11th December 2020 10:25

I very much doubt that Stansted will see an influx on new or more cargo movements more a strike at Heathrow. BA’s main cargo airline is themselves with Bell Freight and DHL.
DHL already have a big operation at East Midlands and a substantial presence at Luton.
Im my eyes the most likely change could be Qatar who operates their flights for BA Cargo. With Freight from Hong Kong. They may do an extra flight but this time of year an extra flight from Qatar isn’t unusual.
Im not saying it’s impossible Stansted might see the odd extra flight but it’s highly unlikely. Never had big changes before on previous strikes from other UK cargo hubs.

BHX5DME 11th December 2020 10:27

MAG Stats – November 2020

November Pax

MAN – 166,317 down 90.9%

STN – 160,805 down 91.5%

EMA – 17,136 down 93.2%

12m Rolling Pax

STN – 9,340,917 down 66.8%

MAN – 8,755,690 down 70.2%

EMA – 1,091,665 down 76.8%

Cargo

EMA – 41,613 up 26.45%

STN – 19,810 down 9.4%

MAN – 4,417 Down 54.0%

Skipness One Foxtrot 11th December 2020 14:20


Originally Posted by STN406 (Post 10944723)
How would a BA Cargo Strike mean Stansted picking up more business?

BA cargo don't handle any airlines as such. DHL is in house and QATAR are 3rd party handled.
Actually BA don't have a cargo division anymore, just like Aer Lingus, it's now IAG CARGO.

STN406 17th December 2020 20:00

West Atlantic Operation
 
Just seen a Job come up for West Atlantic at Stansted. It’s for a B1 Line Engineer for ATR’s.
Currently West Atlantic only have B737’s flying into Stansted for Royal Mail.
I’m guessing they’ll be looking at starting some form of ATR service at Stansted if they are hiring engineers.
Anyone have more information of the future operations they might be looking at ? First thoughts would be re-opening flights to GCI or JER which they use to operate on ATP’s before they moved to EMA.

daz211 21st December 2020 08:12

NEW ROUTE

Azores Airlines - Ponta Delgada to London Stansted. Summer seasonal flights start 3 June 2021

PDL 0720-1205 STN (Thu, Fri & Sun)

STN 1305-1605 PDL (Thu, Fri & Sun)

Harrych 21st December 2020 10:26

Good connection times for BOS. Will many people use it though?

irishlad06 21st December 2020 12:58

Looks like Jet2 have removed everything for sale until the 1st of Feb.

STN406 21st December 2020 13:58

Jet2 have cancelled all flights up to the 31st December confirmed. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is carried on into January.

STN406 21st December 2020 13:59

daz211

Very positive news for the airport.

Mr @ Spotty M 21st December 2020 14:42

Not surprised with Jet2 on cancelling as they have little or no destinations available left to fly too.
Both Spain and Portugal are banning flights from Tuesday from the UK to add to Turkey already announced.

Harrych 22nd December 2020 10:22

Albawings
 
STN-TIA service resumes 15 June 2021 operating 3x weekly until October 23. Don’t know if this is their second or third attempt at STN? The new flights look to have more favourable operating times then before if I remember correctly.

AirportPlanner1 22nd December 2020 12:47

Didn’t Albawings end because of the pandemic, not because it performed poorly? Of course in the interim Air Albania briefly came and went

STN406 22nd December 2020 13:19

Albawings figures where very hit and miss. Always higher loads on the departures. I’d guess it would have been about 60% load factor overall

Harrych 22nd December 2020 13:37

Surely a 60% load factor means the route isn’t viable.

pamann 22nd December 2020 14:57

It’s all about yield not the load factor.

Harrych 27th December 2020 19:41

Emirates now pushed back until 1st November 2021.

davidjohnson6 28th December 2020 03:27

Ryanair website shows no flights between Stansted and Cagliari, Kerry, Kiev, Lviv, Perugia, Plovdiv, Podgorica, Stockholm-Skavsta, Tallinn, Trieste and Zaragoza after the end of March 2021

I'm not sure if this is a computer failure, routes being taken off sale while schedules are reworked, or a genuine culling of routes

AirportPlanner1 28th December 2020 07:18

Possibly going over to Ryanair UK? Lviv, Kiev and Podgorica of course are all non-EU. The loss of Podgorica would be a particular surprise because Montenegro Airlines has just collapsed.

Some of the rest of the routes are plausible as they’re marginal but Kerry and Stockholm would be surprising

davidjohnson6 28th December 2020 08:33

Luton-Kerry seems to remain on sale in S21, while Stansted-Kerry ceases to be on sale beyond late March 2021

Stansted-Stockholm Skavsta is just 2x weekly in March, so a somewhat marginal route at the moment. There is of course also Stansted-Stockholm Vasteras which is 2x weekly until end March

JW95 28th December 2020 19:37

Emirates
 

Originally Posted by Harrych (Post 10955515)
Emirates now pushed back until 1st November 2021.

Wow.. that is a long wait for sure. I miss seeing EK and their shiny 77W at STN :( It’ll be nice to see them back sooner. Hopefully as more vaccines become available, the airline industry will rebound quickly as passenger confidence in air travel comes back. 2020 has been a truly horrendous year for airlines and airports, let us hope that brighter days await them in 2021.

pamann 28th December 2020 21:29

I’m guessing that it’s not just Stansted in the U.K. that’s been pushed back? With the vaccines we should be in a much better position by the summer.


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