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pamann 21st January 2021 14:52

STN406

Im pretty sure that the destinations were pulled for Summer 21 due to low booking numbers/uncertainty, but are now being reintroduced for Summer 22.

STN406 21st January 2021 17:43

southside bobby

Oh sorry I must have miss read your post.

southside bobby 21st January 2021 20:40

No worries...we have to "box clever" I guess with many of these airline releases particularly featuring programming 15 months ahead but hopefully brought back to life from the mess of previous canx/abandoned plans due the Pandemic.

Tranceaddict 22nd January 2021 14:04

Current overnight terminal closures extended until Friday 26th March

AirportPlanner1 22nd January 2021 22:00

It will be longer than that I’m pretty certain. Not that it means much under the circumstances but I think STN could plummet down the passenger league this year. It was frequently #2 for movements and pax in Lockdown 1 and beyond but this time round most days it’s behind LGW and LTN, plus MAN and others.

southside bobby 23rd January 2021 08:35

Not so sure of the above correlation & semantics...

However...for what it`s worth= not so much in these terrible times for the nation.

terrain safe 23rd January 2021 19:21

AirportPlanner1

No, it's not. See here: https://www.eurocontrol.int/Economic...on-States.html


southside bobby 23rd January 2021 20:32

Good source & great info...knew I wasn`t dreaming...

Referring to a different source MAN arrivals on Thursday were in totality 29...of which 3 were cargo/4 were corporate with that total also including 2 military helicopters & at least 1 positioning flight.

A non-scientific observation at STN in recent days does however appear to indicate further RYR reductions apart from the continuous test circuits being flown.

sewushr 24th January 2021 05:53

AirportPlanner1

Stansted certainly isn't behind Gatwick in terms of commercial movements and isn't likely to be for a while. Gatwick handling single figure numbers of arriving passenger flights on most days next week. Of course Stansted's movements are boosted by freight and business jets, but roughly 3 times more movements than Gatwick at the moment (excluding positioning and circular flights at both).

AirportPlanner1 26th January 2021 15:12

To be fair I did clearly say passenger league. I’m well aware of freight and other movements.

southside bobby 26th January 2021 16:29

Given the parlous state of the industry is this really a discussion to be semantically furthered at this time one may wonder.

Keanaga 28th January 2021 20:04

Jet2
 
Jet2 to add twice weekly ATH from next April 2022.

southside bobby 29th January 2021 09:47

Good news with ATH...now for a total of 44 Jet2 destinations from STN Summer`22.

Interestingly also received leafleting locally with the post yesterday for STN Jet2 Summer`21 showing 39 destinations.

LTNman 29th January 2021 14:56

Seems the public can cut through the fence at Stansted and run amok airside and no offence was committed.

'Stansted 15' win appeal against conviction for deportation flight protest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55859455

davidjohnson6 29th January 2021 15:00

An offence was committed... just not the offence prosecutors chose to claim had taken place. If prosecutors chose a less serious offence, they may well have gained a conviction

Buster the Bear 29th January 2021 22:30

They were convicted of the intentional disruption of services at an aerodrome. Were they just there for a picnic and a bit of plane spotting? Probably did not think about the effects on an international airport, of cutting their way in and entering the manoeuvring area would have? What now, a fine and a 'don't do it again?'

Harrych 1st February 2021 09:44

BACF flights now on sale to:
BER 1x weekly
CMF 2x weekly
Currently available from 18 December

commit aviation 10th February 2021 08:39

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...-from-stansted

Some positive news subject to the usual Covid caveats of course

SealinkBF 10th February 2021 11:11

LTNman

They can’t. They were charged as terrorists which was not correct.

BHX5DME 12th February 2021 15:18

January 2021

MAN – 127,638 down 92.8%

STN – 104,477 down 94.5%

EMA – 4,802 down 97.5%

12m rolling

STN – 5,745,700 down 79.6%

MAN – 5,388,648 down 81.7%

EMA – 713,989 down 84.7%

Cargo

EMA – 32,777 up 9.2%

STN – 23,173 up 48.4%

MAN – 3,879 down 51.5%

southside bobby 12th February 2021 16:04

The obvious reflection on the numbers is that a cargo network can add something at least to the business in what is becoming overall an even more parlous situation for all airports.

STN406 2nd March 2021 15:18

Overnight Terminal Closure
 
Overnight terminal closure will be extended till April 12th now instead of March 28th. The chance of this being extended again is also likely with management stating this could be as late as May 13th but no later than this date.

pamann 2nd March 2021 21:21

What’s the purpose of the night closures? Is it just due to the reduced traffic? Or are they using it to work on the terminal redevelopment?

AirportPlanner1 2nd March 2021 21:56

Minimises costs, especially considering as a whole loads are fairly light. Gatwick for example generally has a similar number of flights, sometimes more sometimes less, but ends up staying open longer for the odd arrival or departure.

pamann 2nd March 2021 22:42

I thought the overnight closures had started pre covid?

FRatSTN 3rd March 2021 07:01

Terminal closure is to reduce cost. There's certainly no visible Terminal transformation works going ahead for the foreseeable other than the baggage upgrade and enhanced cleaning. I imagine the terminal will stay closed as long as it's possible to consolidate schedules into those hours. Just domestic gates being used too so as for Satellite 1 and 2 international gates I guess that could be peak summer if at all.

STN406 3rd March 2021 07:05

pamann

The overnight closure is due to reduced flight operations. Though I know Ryanair would operate more flights if the terminal was open all night but that’s my opinion. Also it gives MAG the benefit of having minimal staff numbers in so meaning they can furlough a majority of the workforce and save money for the meantime.
MAG have had a ban on all new construction work at Stansted since around May last year any project that continued where ones that where already payed for. Such as the new HBS (Hold Baggage System) which has just been completed 2 months ahead of schedule.
The overnight closure began around end of March/early April last year can’t remember exact dates. But the terminal has reopened over night since then but during each lockdown MAG made the decision to close overnight each time.

SpringHeeledJack 3rd March 2021 16:52

A Stansted question, though about airlines and their movements. Over the last few days I've noted perhaps 30 or more test flights of both Ryanair and Jet2 that power up, taxi, takeoff, do a circuit of no more than 10mins, land and power down again. These are obviously test flights, but bearing in mind that they are so many, all with different aircraft it piqued my curiosity as to why. Are they just being cycled through to keep them in airworthy condition bearing in mind the UK winter climate, or something else ?

SWBKCB 3rd March 2021 17:00

I think for the 737, if it's parked for more than 30 days you have to move to a more thorough storage regime - inhibitors and that sort of thing, so that's the reason for the regular short flights.

southside bobby 3rd March 2021 17:08

Appear to be referred to as "preservation flights" both as stated above & keeping crews valid.

Yeehaw22 3rd March 2021 17:09

SWBKCB

On the 737 If parked for less than 14 days (used to be 7) = normal parking. Quick flight round the block and the timer resets again.

Over 14 and your into active storage = fair bit of maintenance required and scheduled maint at 10/14/30/60 day intervals but no flights req.

SpringHeeledJack 4th March 2021 06:44

Thanks for the explanations, there must be quite a number of Ryanair 737's parked up at STN at the moment.

STN406 4th March 2021 08:42

In normal time Stansted’s operational fleet is usually around the 40 mark. Where as currently parked up it’s possible closer to the 90 mark this includes Lauda planes to.

SpringHeeledJack 4th March 2021 09:43

That's a lot of 737's !

Out of interest, do Airbus have the same 'parking/storage' parameters as Boeing ? I ask because EasyJet must have a load of A320 family aircraft at LGW/MAN etc and I don't think that I've seen many test flights to keep them in 'parked' status.

Double Hydco 4th March 2021 11:04

EZY have been doing circuits to keep the aircraft parked. During Lockdown 1 there were lots parked at STN and we’d see them fly over.

Ryanair had (have?) quite a number of Lauda A320’s stored at Stansted and I’ve seen one or two doing a maintenance circuit....

Double Hydco 4th March 2021 11:06

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southside bobby 5th March 2021 10:14

Appears the Loganair LDY service is set to continue the use of STN through to 2023.

planeema971 6th March 2021 10:22

Does anyone know what’s happening with UPS at STN? Seems their 747 service no longer does CGN - STN - HKG and rather direct to HKG.

also have heard that some UPS services will be stopped from the airport and transferred elsewhere? Any ideas which ones/ when?

STN406 7th March 2021 19:16

The HKG flight stopped operating a while ago now. I heard it was due to initial crew shortage in Europe, but haven’t heard anything in a while. I know it always left extremely full most days.

I have never heard any rumours of UPS leaving Stansted. I find this very doubtful though. I know they also operate to EMA and EDI but I doubt they would want to truck all south of England freight from EMA though. Also I doubt they’d move to another London airport.

southside bobby 7th March 2021 20:04

STN-HKG direct with the B748 not flown since the Hong Kong authorities imposed Covid restrictions on the country due discovery of the UK variant.

UPS fly mainly a B763 to CGN in the slot as a feeder replacement.

UPS transferred it`s original STN service back in the day to EMA but reinstated some time later probably due to market demand.



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