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Genuine question, which hopefully won’t be jumped on.
Is talk of UPS reduction or relocation Brexit-related or something else? Has there been a downturn in volume for them and Fedex generally? I ask this as Amazon have significantly reduced their UK operation since Jan 1st due to Brexit. |
I don’t think FedEx has had a downturn. They have at least 1 extra flight in and out each night either a MD11 or B77F. And the TNT side of FedEx has had an extra B734 flight most nights to.
Noticed recently that at peak times FedEx will have a aircraft waiting on the taxiway as stand space isn’t available. |
No downturn for FedEx. As STN406 says extra-section MD11/777 flights multiple times per week and also utilising the weekend layover 777 for an extra STN-MEM-STN
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Ryanair launching new Greek routes, all start this summer operating 2 pw:
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Ryanair STN-Greece.
Latest schedules from July 1 include... Prevesa 2pw Zakynthos 2pw Santorini 2pw Rhodes 3pw |
30th Anniversary of official opening of Stansted`s new terminal by HM The Queen on 15.3.91.
Since then nearly 4m flights have passed through. Due to the pandemic traffic figures for the last 12 months reflect 1994 levels however. |
AnadoluJet increasing the SAW route to 3x daily between 15 July and 15 September.
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Not surprising at all this. Preformed very well in the summer months last year with additional SAW with DLM and AYT added to.
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MAG - February 2021
Feb Pax
MAN = 79,408 down 95.5% STN = 34,967 down 98.1% EMA = 255 down 99.9% Rolling 12m pax STN = 3,903,227 down 86.1% MAN = 3,688,509 down 87.4% EMA = 519,779 down 88.8% Feb Cargo EMA = 34,053 up 23.6% STN = 19,832 up 51.9% MAN = 4,174 down 41.8% |
As expected the only positive for STN is once again the cargo network.
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My rough calculation of about 47 departures/arrivals per week on average gives about 93 pax per flight. Clearly most will be higher because Loganair will be carrying significantly less.
You do wonder why so many are travelling, and what checks are being done to make sure it’s essential. |
With maybe 4 or 5 international passenger departures per day, I think traffic at STN is extraordinarily low - it seems no-travel rules are being adhered to pretty strictly by the general population.
You could send police to interrogate everyone... but I'm not sure that would achieve much in reducing Covid transmission rates. I would be much more concerned at the rather larger number of flights at Heathrow |
Well that doesn’t apply to Luton. Plenty of flights each day to Eastern Europe and now to holiday destinations on the Med particularly at weekends when so called essential travel away happens.
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MAG/STN Planning Appeal for 43.5m pax pa.
All observers both opponents & allies appear in agreement that the local authority has failed in the Appeal which has ended more than two weeks early. Amongst rancour within different areas of the Council concerning the Appeal MAG looks likely to press for a seven figure award of costs. The Inspectors decision is expected in three months. |
The Council is just doing its duty to oppose airport expansion, which is why it was voted into power in the first place due to a rebellion by the locals who put up alternative candidates at the local election.
Contrast that to Luton where the airport owner is the planning authority and where the locals are just ignored. |
"The Council is just doing its duty"...
Yes so much for local democracy up to the tune of a £3m bill in costs with new District Councillors involved in the farce defying advice from their own planning officers & legal council in a planning matter which had already been Council approved & which had forced the MAG Appeal. Wonder who funds the bill for the charade?...of course every local household & business in UDC. Perhaps some of those who are either for the airport or agnostic on the matter would rather they were "just ignored" But seriously the situation with planning at Luton will not continue as it has in the past. |
R4U’s official position isn’t actually against the airport or even necessarily additional flights, although they do want to limit night flights. They are more interested in mitigation and solving local annoyances such as parking controls. It seemed to me that the Councillors ‘went rogue’, and I can’t see it ending well for them. Realistically they are only in power because of a Brexit backlash which saw the Tories wiped out, down to just 4 seats from having controlled the Council. R4U had 26, but 3 since defected to the Greens.
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Possibly so but in essence the R4U majority acted in an undemocratic manner reversing a planning decision made by full Council six months prior to their election.
They were advised by planning officers & legal advisors that reversing the decision would be found failing & with large costs in the event of an Appeal by MAG which duly happened. |
FlyPop are rumoured to be acquiring their first Aircraft within the next two week.
but no word of seats going on sale as yet. |
...Moving rather quickly now then perhaps.
Recently stated either a July or October start with the founder styling himself now as the Sikh MoL which may relate to an advertising association with STN but stated as still in talks with LGW/BHX/EMA too. Working on a deal to lease up to 10 a/c. |
I don’t want to :mad: on the party but I just see these potential new flights as low cost services to Covid 19 and potential new variants. Why not introduce a direct service to Brazil just for good measure? This year is not the right time.
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No worries LTNman not sure you are spoiling a party certainly not a STN party.
The "airline" appears to be putting its self out there for the benefit of new potential investors. Of course the pandemic will have an influence on proceedings (but see above). Possibly if acquiring a first aeroplane maybe eying the cargo market to start towards an AOC...Only a thought. In a recent statement say are talking to LGW/STN/BHX/EMA to fly two destinations so premature to claim it is a STN party. Fair go with your thinking as long perhaps as you carry the same sentiment on in the LHR thread too as Vistara & Spice Jet from the Indian sub continent have been awarded slots there this Summer |
Potential new variants exist for all of time. Might as well just lock everything up and never do anything. COVID-19 was a new variant. And as we saw with the Kent variant they can occur anywhere.
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Southside bobby,
I have concerns where some communities have a reluctance to take a vaccine travelling to countries where next to no one is vaccinated or tested, whether they are flying from Stansted, Luton or Heathrow. There is being proactive and there is being reactive and this is one airline I would not welcome this year. |
LTNman...
Whilst not denying your legitimate concerns I would humbly suggest you possibly take those concerns elsewhere now. The STN forum is not the place for a Government vaccine roll out programme debate. |
Agreed this isn’t the place for vaccine debate, although I would note India is the world’s third highest vaccinator and a major producer. So perhaps concerns about Indian route risks are overblown
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LTNman
Then stay hidden behind your sofa, and don’t forget to change your bed sheets every day. The rest of the world is moving on. |
AirportPlanner1
Given the size of its population and its manufacturing capability it's quite surprising India isn't top of the list for number of vaccinations, however per capita wise I imagine they have vaccinated but a miniscule of their proportion of their population. FlyPop looks like yet another in a string of virtual airlines, they even state on their website that they are looking to begin operations without their own AOC! Recent history is littered with these carriers that look to flog seats at rock bottom prices to ex-pats through ethnic (perhaps to be more PC one should say "specialist") travel agencies in cities such at Birmingham, Leicester, Bradford and London; their "wish list" of UK airports reflects that to some extent. I just feel for families who are fooled into parting with hard earned cash for a trip back home to see the relatives, in all probability blissfully unaware of the status of the "airline". I shall be amazed if it takes off at all, let alone lasts more than a few weeks. That said, I suppose one company could make the business model work, and I could be eating my hat in 12 months time! |
FlyPOP.
Im hearing the Aircraft my not be the previous mentioned A330 and could well be B789. |
An interesting development with the B789 as perhaps the A330 would have larger below deck cargo capacity.
There must be many low lease rates readily available on both types in the current circumstances however which maybe why plans are being advanced. |
ATNotts
One thing I will say for FlyPop is that it’s been a long time in the making. Their website is more professional than some ‘real’ airlines. There’s also said to be significant investment from the U.K. government’s future fund... FlyPop News |
ATNotts - Not that I want to extend vaccine chat further but India has done about 5% of their population which isn’t too bad by global standards
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The airline`s genesis goes back originally to 2014.
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southside bobby
I believe if they go with the 789 it will be ex Norwegian. |
Think LTNMan is just jealous that STN and LGW are both being looked at as a potential for another new long haul venture and LTN has to stick with short haul only 🤣
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Ryanair MAX update.
MOL update on Ryanair’s Boeing 737 Max order and said that Ryanair expected to take delivery of the first 737 Max in April 2021 and expects to operate 16 of the type in 2021.
Asked about consumer confidence in the 737 Max Mr O’Leary said that any passenger that didn’t feel comfortable flying on the aircraft could get the next available flight at no cost, they could not however disembark and seek a refund. From... Uk aviation news. |
Ryanair to start new route to Zagreb from 01 September
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...Yes from their new base in Zagreb announced today.
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Zagreb will be a RYR by Lauda Europe base.
Service to STN will be by LDA A320 daily. |
Re the Norwegian B787`s they had assembled a fleet of over 30 with a mix of 8`s & 9`s within the various offshoots.
Norse Atlantic Airways have in recent days signed for 9 with a combination of both models. Should leave a candidate or two for flypop then notwithstanding remedial work required on some with the engine issues. |
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