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Originally Posted by as993
(Post 12000457)
I wonder if it might be better for the Wickers if they forget the idea of a direct Aberdeen flight and have a few flights with the islander from Wick to Kirkwall and back at times to connect with the Kirkwall flights to and from Aberdeen, Glasgow and Edinburgh. There seems to more than enough space on the ATRs, The SF34s had empty seats a lot of the time anyway. There used to be islander flights to and from wick years ago.
Wick - Kirkwall and onwards is an elegant solution - should satisfy the island* lobbies who retain their non stop flights, and gives Wick a lifeline. (*Except when Wick is fogbound, which used to happen a lot in the summer.) |
Highland Council has updated the PSO to include Wick - Edinburgh services.
I doubt Wick Airport will see scheduled services before the start of this PSO. https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/flights-to-edinburgh-included-in-open-tender-for-wick-pso-fl-422179/]The contract specification seeks an operator to offer services from Wick to both Aberdeen and Edinburgh, on an initial two-year basis Might this be enough to tempt Loganair back... |
Originally Posted by SealinkBF
(Post 12007433)
Highland Council has updated the PSO to include Wick - Edinburgh services.
I doubt Wick Airport will see scheduled services before the start of this PSO. https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/flights-to-edinburgh-included-in-open-tender-for-wick-pso-fl-422179/]The contract specification seeks an operator to offer services from Wick to both Aberdeen and Edinburgh, on an initial two-year basis Might this be enough to tempt Loganair back... |
….but the logistics of essentially being paid to include EDI will have changed making anything out of Wick (slightly) more appealing. EDI was not included last time. Regardless - still chucking it down a money pit.
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Originally Posted by runway30
(Post 12007506)
They weren’t interested last time it went out to tender.
Do/Would they have the necessary resources to fulfil the contract since taking on the JER base following the demise of Blue Islands? |
Originally Posted by jmdavies86
(Post 12007527)
The PSO states a 30-50 seat aircraft is necessary
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86
(Post 12007527)
The PSO states a 30-50 seat aircraft is necessary; LM only have ATR42s & ERJ145s that fit this capacity range.
Do/Would they have the necessary resources to fulfil the contract since taking on the JER base following the demise of Blue Islands? |
With a declared LDA of about 1,410m on each end, anyone seriously contemplating regular E145 operations into Wick should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act. It's fine for an ATR and maybe even an E135, but not an E145.
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Clearly there is much going on
1) Last time this went out to tender, there were separate tenders for Aberdeen and Edinburgh and Loganair declined to bid for Edinburgh 2) There have been talks with Loganair for the temporary operation of Aberdeen which appear to have been unsuccessful. 3) The two routes have now been packaged together and operational flexibility is now planned. This is a tender that has been designed with a particular airline in mind. 4) There aren’t many airline options! |
So, if Loganair are not interested, which other outfits could operate the Wick services.........
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Seriously, I don’t have the local knowledge, ,could a Ryanair or easyjet from London land and take off on the runway?
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What is the legal situation post-Brexit regarding PSO-tenders? While in the common market airlines from all member states need to be given equal rights when it comes to PSOs, must the funder now give UK airlines priority?
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Only UK airlines can operate domestic flights in the UK. Whether it's a PSO route or not doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by virginblue
(Post 12008171)
What is the legal situation post-Brexit regarding PSO-tenders? While in the common market airlines from all member states need to be given equal rights when it comes to PSOs, must the funder now give UK airlines priority?
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Well, that could easily mean at some point in the future that it is back to steam trains and horse carriages, given the dwindling number of carriers operating PSO-suitable aircraft...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6ccd29242a.png |
"if its tax payer funded then it should only be U.K. airlines, keep the profits in the U.K."
That takes out a lot of those airlines - maybe it'll be Global.... |
Apparently from the Eastern Airways pprune page..........
Eastern Airways has been bought for £6 million by startup 'EcoJetAir' Intention is to operate under Air Kilroe with Jetstreams and then expand to almost replicate the former fleet of ATR's and E190s... Maybe there is hope for Wick Airport |
that EcoJet name rings a bell, thought it was some electric start up or hydrogen nonsense from EDI?
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PSO awarded to Air Charter Scotland operated by AIS Airlines on a Jetstream 32.
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